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Bottom line is Aqusitions came from earth why should earth pages unmarked be safe for Goreans?

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Do Goreans have the right to change names to a nongorean name and come back to harass Goreans with out worry of reprisal

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(As I do not post to 3 Moons, perhaps someone can link to this post or copy it there in response to recent threads...)

Even in the days of the oft-derided ‘Old Gor’ there was disagreement about what should and should not occur on non-Gorean pages. For anyone interested here is my take on the situation:

First you need to understand the attitude of those who thought similarly to me. Gor was a demeanor or an attitude that you adopted and portrayed without compromise from the moment you entered the chat environment. By entering the environment you were implicitly agreeing to uphold the standards of the community that you were PROUD to belong to. Everyone recognized the responsibility that came with calling oneself Gorean and being considered Gorean by one’s peers. Those outside of the Gorean community looked on with curiosity and understood that we were ‘different’. Goreans kept to themselves because the act of going on-line was to practice the Gorean experience – not to catch up with Vamp or D/s buddies or to go ‘shopping’ for AVs or to listen to music.

Catching up with friends can be done elsewhere, using one of a host of peer-to-peer chat systems like Yahoo Messenger. Buying AVs could be done WITHIN Gor using pages made by Goreans, for Goreans, and buying ‘clothes’ provided excellent opportunity for some gentle but detailed role-play. Listening to music – well, that one really isn’t difficult – go and switch on a radio, pick up a good book and listen music that way.

Because Goreans came on-line wearing their Gorean name specifically to participate in things Gorean, it was simply a rare occurrence that someone drifted off onto non-Gorean pages. Slaves were forbidden from going to ANY page that was not listed by their owners (quite authentic to the books, you’ll notice), and free women knew to stay on pages where they were known, respected, and looked out for. (Also authentic to the books). Those who did flout the unwritten rules were easily identifiable as habitual rule breakers, trouble-makers, and drama-queens (male and female). Largely, they were shunned by the greater community if their behavior could not be moderated. Gor policed itself and kept Gorean affairs on Gorean pages. There may have been children on those non-Gorean pages and as many have rightfully indicated, it is simply rude to force Gorean attitudes on those who have no interest in or knowledge of Gor.

On the rare occasions that I saw a Gorean on non-Gorean pages I would act as follows:

A slave girl known to me: I would go to obs, and message her privately, commanding her back to our pages. I would them correct her in a Gorean way, on Gorean ‘soil’. If the girl was not known to me (and back then that was unusual), I would message the girl and explain that she was eroding our standards and to return to Gor. Her responses and future actions invariably indicated exactly what type of Gorean she was going to be.

A Gorean free woman: Again, those part of the greater community had a reputation to uphold, and a quick message would see the decent ones haul up their robes and scurry quickly back to Gor. Those who did not were usually new, or people who were known to be disruptive to the community and therefore had little future in the society until they had a change of attitude.

Gorean free men were actually easy to moderate. It was (is) very difficult to establish oneself as a decent Gorean master in an existing community. Most men learned very quickly that their actions had to comply with known standards or else their Gorean experience would be a very lonely and unfulfilling one.

A large part of Gor’s mystery, beauty, and allure, existed in its high standards and unflinching attention to detail. Because Goreans did not approach other communities, those interested in our ways were compelled to visit us. In so doing, they were met by the right people, who could give them the right information, and steer them in the right direction. Potential newcomers started off on the right foot.

As I read many of the posts that have prompted this reply, I see names of people I know came to Gor in exactly the way I have just described. Some of the community’s more influential characters were guided and mentored by people who themselves were advised and shaped by me and those with similar opinion to me.

So – did captures, attempted captures, brutal slayings, chases, and outbursts happen on non-Gorean pages?

Regrettably, yes they did.

There always were and always will be those who go against accepted standards ‘just because’. I used to feel embarrassment when I witnessed a clumsy, unwarranted attempt of some new ‘Master’ chasing a ‘lil-one’ (how I dislike that term) across some general chat page. To me it is similar to me taking my real time girl to a restaurant and making her kneel at my side as I hand feed from my plate. This is not a behavior that I should impose on anyone that does not share in my beliefs. I am the minority in such a situation – I am the one trespassing on the status quo – that would be rude and disrespectful and I am neither. Nor should any other diligent Gorean be in the general public.

So – are non-Gorean pages unsafe? Yes they are – they were viewed, for sake of argument, as ‘Earth’, and we all know that certain Goreans made expeditions across the solar system to stock up on new blood. That said, it was frowned upon by those who could see the bigger picture when Gorean affairs were displayed in front of non-Gorean people. Non-Goreans have no interest in our ways and our beliefs. We should not force our lifestyles on them, and we should not impose our habits and behaviors upon them. Certainly we do not take kindly to it when other factions come to our community and try to force themselves upon us!

Non-Gorean pages should be used by non-Goreans. If your affinity with Gor is strong enough you will uphold this simple piece of etiquette for the greater good of the community. If you want to listen to music, get a new AV, or just chat with other people, then you can do so without your involvement in Gor being at all apparent. That means all references to Gor and things Gorean should be left behind.

There are times when a Gorean might go to other pages as an ‘ambassador’ of sorts to represent the community to other special interest groups. At such times the responsibility is huge and it is incumbent on them to portray the Gorean community resolutely and accurately. I know I have been received very poorly at times when I have attempted to be such an ambassador and it is rarely a positive experience.

Simply put, as a Gorean, I am far happier among those who understand where I am coming from and respect my point of view – why would I want to spend what little spare time I have with people who neither like nor tolerate ‘my type’? When I want to chat with non-Gorean friends, I do so with no apparent trace of my Gorean lifestyle in evidence. This is as true on a chat site as it is in my real life.

As with all things, the best solution to this issue can be found using common sense.

I wish you well.

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