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| Riddick | Safe Pages posted on: 9/3/2006 9:38:58 PM Should Non-Gorean pages be considered safe? You may not vote until you are logged in! Results (total votes = 48):
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Morte.
This message was updated on 9/3/2006 11:39:14 PM by Morte. |
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replied on: 9/3/2006 10:11:36 PM That should depend upon the page, if it is an av shop, a music page or a learning center yes. It is is someone elses page that they are on yes. Yet if it is none of the above and you are the only person on the page it is Gorean. Why do I say that well to Me there is multiple reasons. #1 There is a thing called obs people can sit on they need not be on the page. #2 If you don't want to role-play you shouldn't be in role-play mode or for ehavens sakes go back to your pages that have tag over kill upon them. #3 Gor wasn't safe, even in heavily guarded places tarns were known to raid and capture people. BC killed people in broad day light. Yet in Hal people whine when it is done. Any page with just one person on it should be wilds if it is untagged for the simple fact if you are there and in Gorean tags you are Gorean no one else is there so the owner has little to no actual knowing you are there so how or why would they complain if they don't know you are there, and if they didn't want you there to begin with I'm sure they'd make it to where you wouldn't find it to begin with. An ounce of caution normally prevents the pound of pain as the old saying goes. Instead of looking for ways to stop role-play why don't you look for ways to promote it. |
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ll-Beast.Blade-ll
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replied on: 9/3/2006 10:33:43 PM There is also this thing called respect for the web designer. Not everyone that builds pages know of the rp done in the different venues and they do not tag thier efforts. As for that there are many in Hal that have come to me asking what NKZ/NCZ means. So yes non Gorean pages should be off limits for our roleplaying. |
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Lady_Jannat
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replied on: 9/3/2006 10:48:43 PM I agree with My FC. As a amatour web designer, I make pages with music , or paintshop every now and then, or something that I was just inspired to do. I'd rather not have anyone with ANY type o roleplay done on those pages. It's strictly for using as some down time, to get away from the rigors of always being so proper and such. I don't want some wannabe slaver or vamp know it all to come with their bad rp'ing attempts to capture or kill Me while I am relaxing. But I have been fortunate to afford two names. So I don't go to pages like paintshops, music pages, to visit friends, gammon or whatever else they got going in My Gorean Name. But some can't do that or can afford two names or are on someone else's account. Sooooo I agree with Morte as well, OBS. Can't cap or kill there, and can sit and listen to the music if'n Ya want. If you want an av done. IM' the person there, ask if it may be sent have it painted, then quickly enter the room grab it and haul back into Obs. OR remove all traces of Gor out of Your ID, or place NRP at the beginning, so that Gor is pushed to the side. People who use Locate to teleport all over the planet won't even know your sitting at one of these pages to begin with. But IN Gor. I feel and have always felt that nearly ALL the pages should be open for possible rp. Gor was not safe. Why should the online be safe? How can one really rp sitting on tag to death pages? I wish You Enough |
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Hasan
This message was updated on 9/4/2006 3:17:00 PM by Hasan |
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replied on: 9/4/2006 8:42:10 AM To me this is not a rocket science, the problem is not untagged pages, it over tagged pages. I agree some areas of a Homestone/City even Castes should be allowed within plausibility to maintain some protection; after all, we are afforded that right in our own real life communities every day, but even that is not infallible. So how do we add some realism to Gor? By using our common sense and using good quality, role-play. The problem is many want actions recognized without accountability, (IE pop into rooms without reason or probable means to kill or capture and leave again). The realism in that leaves nothing to be desired to anyone that truly understands role-play. Maybe we should not be addressing tags and we should be addressing the real underlying issue. How many actually understand the concept of role-play? Should non-Gorean pages be viewed as safe, you are damn right they should, who are we to ram our lifestyle/role-play down the throats of individuals that do not want it. I do not want other role-players from assorted settings coming into my Homestone to disrupt. To me it does not matter what name I wear I am Gorean, because Gorean to me is not just a game but a lifestyle so I uphold a certain integrity online and off that reflects that philosophy. I realize that does not hold for everyone, some are here just to have the benefit of the online environment of Gor or role-play. However, I do not feel that exempts anyone from upholding certain integrity in the role selected. Change names or remove Gor from your ID before you venture off to do your own thing. There are certain guidelines that apply to each role; owned slaves do not wander all over the planet Gor or Halsoft without their owner. Free Women do not run around half-dressed. And who do I expect to indoctrinate this principle, the Free Men. How could we enforce it, perhaps its as simple as an IM to the individual warning them that they are outside the boundaries of Gor in a Gorean ID and their actions are questionable. If they chose to ignore you or argue with you, then report their actions to whoever is in charge of their Homestone etc. If that individual chooses to ignore you then they probably are not individuals that you want to associate with anyway, no loss, no gain and time will provide evidence to that person’s basic principle eventually. City laws only apply as far as the walls of that city; this is where knowing Gor (IE Read the books) has to apply. Know that not all free women wear veils; know the cultures of Gor and their common customs or dress. A good deal homework, maybe, but anything worth doing is worth doing right. |
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Tryp
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replied on: 9/4/2006 3:03:43 PM I don't think people seeking role play go to nonGorean pages. Last nite, I noticed a "slave", by the name of emie (i think)who has Gorean slave (unowned)in her ID. Not observing, not learning. Ive yet to see her arse on a Gorean page. That tells me to ignore that individual, that's not someone seeking active and genuine Gorean role play. I have been taught that for my role play to be considerered plausible, probable and in keeping with the books, I cannot teleport to some music page somewhere and capture anyone. My destination must be in keeping with where my original location is, I must have been plausibly able to get there, and it must be a place I would plausibly be found in. Soaking ma feet in the waters off Varis Island isnt one of those locations, hence I would never be found there out of chains. Some of us are actively adding Wilds pages and links to them, and in the recent past, role play with Laura, Ar and the North was conducted on travel pages. None of those pages are safe as they logically wouldn't be. I just can't see myself explaining how I got to Delores Clitoris's music page from the Northern Forest to capture someone. "I heard music..and followed it there". Nah. If it's plausible and probable for me to show up on any nonGorean page at will without explanation, then that takes us back to I can teleport to any page anywhere on Gor and my being there is accepted and my actions are valid. Utter chaos. Those who want to actively participate in the Gorean community will make themselves available to do so. Those who want to play games will put little hints in their ID's and skitter from one nonGorean page to another. I wish you well. |
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ll-Beast.Blade-ll
This message was updated on 9/15/2006 2:06:55 PM by ll-Beast.Blade-ll |
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replied on: 9/15/2006 2:05:28 PM Jannat, I just reread what you wrote and have a minor point to make, many homes now have obs is not safe, now why is beyond me since it has always been the place you expected those observing to learn sat to stay out of the rp or actions going on within the room, and a cap or kill cannot be fully played out if there is only 1 person actually in the given room, but yet many homes I have viewed do state this and I am assuming that if they calim this in thier own homes they feel obs would be deemed unsafe anywhere. So it is simple, if the page is clearly not a Gorean page, it is not part of the world your playing is involved with and don't go in and pester anyone sitting there, if you don't like what your seeing make a mental note of the name and when they return to Gor talk to them then, or just count them as ones you won't bother with in the future. Either way, you won't offend the builder or people that are on the page, or entering the page, or even sitting in obs viewing the page, with what to them is probably a bunch of bogus crap. Now I am unstickying this topic as it has been here long enough to let the poll give a pretty sound idea what the community as a whole agrees to. 2 to 1 we that have voted have agreed non Gorean pages should not be used for our rp. |
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