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Riddick

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Giving Credit Where It's Due
posted on: 9/6/2006 8:29:11 AM

Ok,it seems eri has a problem with hidden Moderators here on 3 Moons but she lacks the spine to directly ask who's who here.

So I thought it would be nice if I helped her out a little....

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The danger of the hidden moderator
posted on: 9/1/2006 11:18:50 PM
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I decided after some thought and speaking to a few people that I would make a post here rather than put it on a board where who knows who might take issue with it.

On 3Moons there is a moderator name that isn't attached to anyone, meaning, there is no one to take responsibility for the actions of that moderator.

I brought up the question, why is it we aren't being told. It wasn't answered on the board but I did receive the following message.

Now, normally I don't post private messages to the board but since this affects the entire community I don't see any issue with, especially when it's basically from anonymous.


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There are several {as in more than 2} people who have access to the admin account. This is so we can ~try~ to pay closer attention to mistakes or posts that need to be moved or deleted.

The reason those names are not disclaimed is because we like to ENJOY our time in chat without being harrassed to no end by people who get pissed at their posts being edited or moved or deleted.

This is not going to change. Im sorry if you are not happy with that but its not up to you to decide. The only thing you need to decide is wheter you want to continue to post and read 3 moons for yourself, and thats a choice only you can make.

be well
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Okay so now we find out there is more than one person behind this login. But we aren't allowed to know who because they want to enjoy their time in chat without being bugged. Huh

Yet on a post over on 3Moons Tryp made the comment to Aaragorn that the moderating wasn't personal, going further to say "how could it be?" Well it's simple really, if we have no idea who is doing the moderating then it damn sure could be personal.

People are told to use known names for posting. People are told use only one name for posting, yet there is this contingent of hidden moderators who find themselves above the rules of the board, and they see no problem with that.

Now I was given the classic, hey it's your choice to post here or not. In other words, it's our way or no way, nanee nanee boo boo.

Sorry, that's not only unfair it's downright childish.

I could sit here and rattle off a list of names who I believe are behind the position, but what's the point.

They have a responsibility to the community to make themselves known.

If you don't want to be bothered in chat (silliest bs I've ever heard) then remove yourself from the job.

Anyway, I'm venting but it's my right.

As someone told me just recently, the rule has always been .. if you are going to post something then be responsible for it, i.e. don't hide behind an anonymous name.

So what does everyone think, am I the only one who finds this troubling?


Well what does everyone else think?
Does she have a right to demand answers or should she just shut up & go away?
Esoteric

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This message was updated on 9/6/2006 1:22:40 PM by Esoteric

Giving Credit Where It's Due
replied on: 9/6/2006 12:38:05 PM

First of all Riddick get your facts straight. At no time have I demanded anything from anyone.

I opened a discussion about accountability, people responded. Your continued attempts to slight me only reflect poorly on yourself.

I'm sick of you distorting facts in order to try and bash me. Your issue with me is quite hilarious considering we have never role-played together (I'm far picker in who I role-play with) and our only exchanges have been on the board.

As for your spineless comment, I chose not to post this here to ward off any possible accusations of bias, therefore I posted it on another well read board. You found your way to it, as did others.

Your only reason for posting it here, in the dumpster specifically is that you feel you can attack me without reproach, I guess we'll see.

This is my last post to you, and the only reason I bothered is because once again you are distorting the truth. I really shouldn't bother, I actually know that people see right through your tactics. Your attempts to further slander me are going to come up empty handed, but hey, enjoy. If it brings a ray of sunshine into your obviously gloomy life, I'm more than happy to help.
Riddick

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Giving Credit Where It's Due
replied on: 9/6/2006 1:38:02 PM

Ok,I'm lost here eri.....either you're lieing now or you were lieing before.

You said on that other board...

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I posted this here because I didn't want it to become some mud slinging thread that often happens


Now you're saying....

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I chose not to post this here to ward off any possible accusations of bias, therefore I posted it on another well read board.


So what is it...you either wanted to avoid mud slinging or you wanted to avoid bias?

It certainly appears to Me as though you enjoy talking behind peoples backs,but don't like it when the truth is brought to light.

You claim you have a right to know who's who among the Mods of this Forum.
You talk of accountability & what's right & what's wrong.

What's next?
Are you once again going to say you will never post here again in an attempt to be pitied by others?

The fact remains everyone is entitled to their privacy & for anyone to suddenly demand answers over something that invades the privacy other others is absurd.
Esoteric

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Giving Credit Where It's Due
replied on: 9/6/2006 1:47:52 PM

I know I'm going to hate myself but I'm going to respond to this.

Both comments are truth Riddick, both comments could very easily feed each other, if there were any accusations of bias it could become a mud slinging contest. Funny though you've done your damndest to make it just that not on one board but now two.

I didn't post this here to begin with because I didn't feel anyone should be able to come back and say it was unfairly swayed by the moderators, why, simple because then people could begin to make more out of it than needs to be made.

I am interested to see what more people might add here that they didn't already say on Lisa's board, perhaps even get a few more comments.

I have no trouble with it being posted here, what I do have trouble with is your continued attempt to distort the truth.

Let me pose this to you as a final thought, if another board showed up out of the blue, with an anonymous moderator, would you post to it? I actually recall a few boards over the years that fell into this category and everyone shied away from them like the plague, so what's the difference?

Now, I don't know what your fascination with me is, but please have the balls to simply own up to it and get it of your chest. This weird obsession is very creepy.


Riddick

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Giving Credit Where It's Due
replied on: 9/6/2006 2:18:33 PM

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if another board showed up out of the blue, with an anonymous moderator, would you post to it?


I have & still do post on Forums that have hidden Mods.

I have no fascination for you in the least.
The one thing that interests Me the most is the fact that you,& a few others,talk like you are above everyone else.That alone is more than enough to get My attention.
Everyone here in the online world has dirt little secrets so if we really want to get technical nobody is any better than anyone else.
Perhaps when you get off your high horse & try talking to people like human beings,oh let's not forget actually sticking to your word,you might notice a difference in how others react to you.
Now,you have said you will no longer respond to Me but everyone knows that you will just have to try & get the last word in.

Before I forget though...this thread is about accountability so do try to stay on topic or start your own thread please.
LadyAngelWings

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Giving Credit Where It's Due
replied on: 9/6/2006 2:18:52 PM

-yawns-
Tryp

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Giving Credit Where It's Due
replied on: 9/6/2006 7:09:40 PM

*grumbles* can't you people "fight" nice?

Regardless of all the other "stuff", fact is, 3 Moons has an unknown moderator. As has been stated before, we can squawk about that till hell freezes over. We can approve or disapprove, agree or disagree. Donna chose to hand the board over to someone whose name has not been divulged, something she obviously agreed with. I'm not gonna argue that. Not ma place.

What I'd like to ask here is this; can someone tell me where Moderator3 (the unknown moderator) has done anything or posted anything unfairly, deleted or moved anything without cause? Perhaps if we can find a specific instance we can address that. I don't see the point in continuing a debate that is getting ugly over an issue none of the participants have any control over. We have reached the point of requiring facts; examples to look at.

I have been banned for 7 days for "baiting", and justly so. I took a shot and paid for it. No biggie! Matters not to me which moderator did it. Who cares? I knowingly ignored one of the rules of this board and I got banned.

The reference to my answer in response to Aaragorn is self explanatory. If you look at his posts, they were not of a Gorean nature and did not require input from a Gorean Community; hence were moved to a forum devoted to day to day things, real time issues, etc. The move was obviously not showing hostility because Aaragorn posted them. Very obviously.

If the threads above were posted on the 3 Moons main forum I can guarantee you would either be moved to the dumpster or content deleted with possible 7 day bannings. The Dumpster allows users a certain amount of leeway and as long as an individual's real time issues and life are not brought here or attacked, that leeway is guaranteed. This spares the general community from having to read our nastiness when they don't want to. Those that do want to have to actively click on the Dumpster Forum to access it.

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