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| Tharae. | wtf?? posted on: 10/4/2006 7:58:11 PM ok im in a ****stirring mood, but i gotta ask how others feel about this here we have a 'kajira', one of 'the best' according to some, one who also has been 'allowed' to host a server and make appropriate changes to it by logging in as the admin of said server perusing forums i come across this quote: am i the only one that thinks again she has overstepped the mark? |
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Esoteric
This message was updated on 10/4/2006 10:20:38 PM by Esoteric |
wtf??
replied on: 10/4/2006 9:19:21 PM quote: Actually Tharae I don't believe she has overstepped anything. I happen to think her actions were valid for one very big reason, if indeed this person was banned from VooDoo, but happened to sneak back in, then the server they are visiting risks being banned from VooDoo as well. I do believe this person was banned from Dark Haven as well for this very reason. In fact I'm going to quote Lucius. quote: I was once a server owner in VooDoo while a slave and like Synn, I kept the roles completely separate. You can believe I doled out bans as needed in an 'out of role-play' manner by order of my owner at the time. My guess is Devon has in fact handed taraa the right to do this in order to protect their server from being banned from VooDoo as a whole. From what you've posted it shows she acted in a very courteous manner and the person being banned didn't seem to take issue with it so I'm not sure why you would. I find your comment "one who also has been 'allowed' to host a server and make appropriate changes to it by logging in as the admin of said server" a bit petty. Perhaps it's because she is the only one willing and able to host a server. There are many Free in VooDoo who could host their owner servers, but simply don't want to because it is a lot of work. So rather than constantly trying to find reasons to nail this girl (especially on this topic) you should in fact realize she is providing a service. I may not agree with everything they do, but it's their server and I am not in VooDoo so what do I care. I realize you have a personal disagreement with Devon and taraa, but there are times when you need to look beyond your personal feelings to the bigger picture. If Mike has banned someone from VooDoo and they sneak back on, any server caught allowing them would likely suffer repercussions, granted once explained I'm sure it would be corrected, but the point is, why even take that risk? I do wonder why you feel a need to rant about VooDoo issues and people on a halsoft board when few to none here are affected by the bannings in VooDoo. Of course you have the right to post wherever you so choose but I'd have to agree with the beginning of your own post, it does in fact appear you are just shitstirring. If you have issues with the way a server is run, it's like having issues with the way a home is run, simply don't go to that server and then you don't have to worry with it. |
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Jaaka Giha
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wtf??
replied on: 10/5/2006 1:09:27 AM i'm all for lettin' 'em do wotever it takes to keep their server going in voodoo, otherwise they may FIND their way to halsoft. *wrinkles nose* voodoo can have 'em. |
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Naliya
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wtf??
replied on: 10/5/2006 3:58:56 AM -reads and wonders- what does this have to do with Halsoft? -wonders out still thinking...confused...- |
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ll-Beast.Blade-ll
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wtf??
replied on: 10/5/2006 10:17:30 AM It doesn't have anything to do with Hal but does fit the dumpster requirements as the dumpster is for all topics of this nature, venue doesn't matter. |
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Tryp
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wtf??
replied on: 10/5/2006 10:42:34 AM Sometimes Voodoo stuff does bleed over into Hal..re: the recent crapola with the tarra person which resulted in MAJOR drama. Maybe the thing here is..when you run across people who do the things that particular slave and her "Owner" have done, it's human nature to suspect everything they do. Some folks don't let go o stuff so easily and sometimes ya just can't blame em. I'm sorta glad the woman made the post. I've no idea how Voodoo stuff works and sometimes it's a bit interesting to find out..in a roundabout way. I wish you all well. |
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Tharae.
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wtf??
replied on: 10/5/2006 8:05:35 PM im guilty of posting too much information i guess, this has nothing to do with the ban, i agree that anyone who finds a way around a ban should be banned again, but rather than confuse the issue even more im just gonna leave it FYI quote: my disagreement is not of a personal nature and would be the same regardless of who the 'Master' being tugged around by his 'slut' via a cock ring is, and it is the so called bigger picture i was looking at ~shrugs~...guess we all have our own rights to what picture we actually see |
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Hasan
This message was updated on 10/5/2006 9:19:16 PM by Hasan |
wtf??
replied on: 10/5/2006 9:19:01 PM quote: I wasn't going to get involved with this issue cause frankly what goes on in another chat is none of my concern, I have enough in Halsoft to keep me crazy for years. But the final comment by Tharae just boiled my Gorean blood. That statement is the BIGGEST manipulation I have seen played and played again by FW. Its getting as old as some online pick up lines. Has it ever occurred to you woman, that the slave was acting totally under the COMMAND of her master and I have to ask you, who you are to question such matters? So I ask you the same question, WTF? |
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Tharae.
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wtf??
replied on: 10/5/2006 9:43:56 PM in answer to your question, yes it had occured to me, but yanno, considering other information that was posted in various threads that is highly unlikely and in regard to it being a manipulative statement that is used over and over again, maybe there is a reason for it?....ever think that its most likely true? in regard as to who i am to question things, im a FW, and as such have the same right as any other Free to question whatever i like, i may not like the answer i get, but thats part and parcel of the risk i take asking. |
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arjumand
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wtf??
replied on: 10/5/2006 10:49:42 PM quote: Nope, she did as her Master told her. Yes, she had an admin name to do so, who cares. Point and fact is, we don't live on Gor, we live on Earth. Mike, and the Voodoo chat program are on Earth too, so it seems fitting that the woman in question left her Gorean ROLE and took her Earth admin name, to deliver the message. I happen to believe that the "Lead the men around by the balls" card is dangerously over played. And it is a card. Here is a news flash, the men of Gor are not all collared to thier slaves. They are not all led around by silk cords tied around their Daddy parts either. See, Here is the thing. If you have a slave that runs her mouth and is cheeky and the man does nothing about it, it is probably because the man LIKES IT. Could it be possible that the slaves act like they do because the men want them too" After All , it is these same men that let the Free Women speak as they want. Free men keep us free. Could it be possible that a man favored a slave, not because he was led around by a silk cord on his balls , but because the slave was more fun to be with? Perhaps she wasn't so insulting, or perhaps she was intelligent or made him feel like a productive member of society, rather than a reject on a leash. The men of Gor are Men who let women do as they want. That's right, they LET US. The Free Women and the slaves. When they're tired of our shit, I have no doubt that we'll know it, right up close and personal. Just because the man or men don't agree with a Free woman, doesn't mean that there is some nefarious slave hidden in the woodwork pulling his marionette strings. It is quite possible, he just didn't agree with you. By "You" in this post, i am not singling any one person out, please, do not take this personally. Arjumand. |
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Hasan
This message was updated on 10/5/2006 10:53:00 PM by Hasan |
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replied on: 10/5/2006 10:51:45 PM Then address the parties you are speaking about. The ones you have absolute fact on, do not make statements of generalization. That is not ALL men, nor is it the case with ALL slaves. Generalizations only show ignorance. and in regard to it being a manipulative statement that is used over and over again, maybe there is a reason for it?....ever think that its most likely true? Not for a single bloody moment, because you cannot profess to know what goes on in the minds of anyone but yourself. But using a statement such as that to MANIPULATE the men into feeling small so that they might agree with you is dangerous territory for a free woman to trod. You don't upset me nor offend me when you speak out as a free woman. Speak all you like, but do remember I do not have to agree with you nor listen to you. You are only as free as the men allow, don't foolishly take that freedom for granted. Jehan |
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Tharae.
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wtf??
replied on: 10/5/2006 11:36:01 PM quote: ok seeing i didnt generalise im not sure whom this comment is directed at, but matters not, i am well aware of the fact that my words need not be taken notice of, i have that same right but just a little bit of information here, the comment i made was not made to belittle anyone or try to make them feel small enough to agree with me, cos in all honesty, i couldnt give a flying fig who does or doesnt agree with me i also had no intention of offending or upsetting anyone, in fact, the thought never crossed my mind, but im glad to hear no toes were stepped on.....*grinz* |
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Esoteric
This message was updated on 10/6/2006 11:04:57 AM by Esoteric |
wtf??
replied on: 10/6/2006 10:59:09 AM quote: Actually Tharae, your remarks were of a personal nature even if not intended as such. You see, I too peruse a variety of chat boards and a month or so back I came across a post made by you on Devon's board which is why I stated your issue with them was personal. You were once a guest in their home, you had a minor falling out that resulted in your leaving. Ever since then your posts to either have been full of anger. You are not of halsoft, yet the moment you saw the post in this section between beauty and taraa, you were right on it. It's your right to have whatever issues you wish with people, but it's always best to admit to it and find a way to move on. Your points in the original post were simply inarguable as whatever the girl does she does at her owner's command. If you take issue with it then it is with him you should speak. Too often slaves are made to deal with the repercussions of their owner's actions/beliefs. It's easy to do because they are slaves, they can't defend themself. All too often the moment an owner stands in defense of their property they are immediately accused of being pussy whipped or led around by their balls. This accusation is almost always, always made by some disgruntled free woman. (make note of the words .. almost always .. and some .. meaning not always and not all) Personally, it's crap. Some men choose to let their slaves behave more boldly because, as Arjumand said, they enjoy it. If you do not like this type of behavior then simply ignore it. Not everyone in Gor is here to please another. Slaves will always do as they are commanded regardless what others will think of them. It's unfair, but hey, it's Gor. Your problem is that you feel, as a slave, taraa has too much power and while it isn't a moot point, you have to realize there is a difference between being a slave (role-play) and being a server owner/administrator (non role-play). Too often the line is blurred and people get all up in arms. I do find it interesting that you never seemed to take exception to Synn's actions with Dark Haven all the times she has been in collar (I keep using Synn because she's a long-time server owner and a good example), again leading me to my conclusion that your issue with Devon and taraa most certainly is personal. Perhaps, if you are intent on remaining in VooDoo Gor, it would serve you well to make your peace with them or at least learn to swallow the bitter pill and not have every word out of your mouth tainted by it. |
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DevonMB
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wtf??
replied on: 10/6/2006 6:47:23 PM Tal Goreans of Halsoft, It was my intent to leave your boards alone as we do not cross paths, but it appears that Tharae continues to hold a grudge against me and mine and so chooses to stir up trouble as fast as her lips can move. The points made by Esoteric, Jehan, and Arjumand are right on the mark. The individual in question was banned from Voodoo by the person who wrote and oversees voodoo. He had directed in the past that this individual was to be banned by all servers and those not complying would be removed from Voodoo Gor. My choice, and yes it was mine the girl carried out, was to protect the Homestones of those homes that reside on my server and the server itself from the shunning which would have occurred if he had been allowed to stay. This is regardless of any person feelings I have on the matter, the first thing a Gorean leader must do is protect his people in this case the server and its homes. When notified via e-mail of the problem I contacted my girl and fully instructed what action she needed to take. Including some of the expressions I wanted her to make to the man in question. The only banning that can be done is by administrators and since I was not going to be online for days, it was required that the girl, under my direct command, use the SIGS administration sign in to carry out what needed to occur. I do not justify my actions, but rather simply reveal the facts. I have two points here: It is clear Tharae carries a grudge and is trying to manipulate the people of Halsoft to share in her dislike of myself and especially her dislike of my slave. It begs the question.....why? I have suspicions as to why, most of which relate to her frustrations that she did not get what she wanted while a guest in my Home. I leave the conclusions to those who have read often in the books of a frustrated, scorned FW acting out against a Man. My second question has been echoed here quite distinctly, my actions with my slave are my own and she is the way I train her and want her to be. What I do with her is up to me and simply because you don't like it does not mean it is wrong, Woman. My goal is to live in my Gorean home in peace. Perhaps Tharae, you will decide to keep your meddling FW nose out of how I run my home and look to how and what you show yourself to be. Perhaps....but somehow I doubt it. My apologies to those of Halsoft Gor for the clutter of such a post on your boards and I do wish all well. Devon, Admin of HMC and SIGS Voodoo Gor |
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Riddick
This message was updated on 12/17/2006 8:25:14 PM by Riddick |
wtf??
replied on: 10/6/2006 10:21:35 PM ..... |
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Lady_Jannat
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wtf??
replied on: 10/7/2006 1:50:39 AM Actually the Main real question here should be... WTF does Voodoo gor and their rules/slaves/owners/anything have to do with Halsoft Gor? Why bring voodoo business to Halsoft? Why bring anything from voodoo boards to Halsoft Boards? We don't f*cking care WHAT goes on there, who runs around with who pulling their leashes. Stop bringing your crap to Our boards...We DO NOT CARE!! *side note* I was a slave once. Yes and proud of that fact. And I would NEVER go OOC (don't believe in it anyways) and post ANYTHING even with My OWNERS Permission that was as RUDE as what athenarose posted. Even if I was right in how I felt and My owners agreed that I was right. I would give it to My owners and if THEY saw fit to post, then so be it. If not , shrugs, at least THEY knew how I felt. But I would NEVER have so much as posted anything to ANYONE that was Free, even if that person is a total idiot to begin with. As a slave, I was a slave ALL the time, and NEVER crossed the line period. Now your owner may not give a rats ass how your attitude or words seems to others. Nor would they care what you posted on Voodoo boards... But don't bring your ****to Halsoft boards and expect for the Free to sit back and say well bully for her she was right. I personally see it as wrong. You don't speak to Me or anyone with that attitude..because if I caught you in Halsoft, It'd be your tongue I'd cut out. Now this is for ALL of voodoo people... STOP BRINGING YOUR GARBAGE TO OUR BOARD. We have enough bs to worry with without deciphering and weeding through your bs too. shakes head |
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