AHL APBA HOCKEY LEAGUE.AHL general

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bradu Quote \| Reply \|	line shift minimum/maximum rule change? posted on: 11/25/2008 12:33:33 PM Guys, several seasons back when I decided to make the rules regarding shift min/max, it was in the interest of realism. It was not the norm for NHL teams to dress a player but not really use him in a regular season game. Now, with several players in the 3 minute range for GF, I'm not entirely sure the minimum shift requirements are still necessary. I do still think we need the requirement of 20 dressed players each game. But I am considering dropping the shift requirement part of it, allowing teams to give each line as few or many shifts as they'd like. Thoughts?
buffalohead Quote \| Reply \|	line shift minimum/maximum rule change? replied on: 11/26/2008 10:44:08 PM I for one am a proponent of minimum line shift rules. Yes some NHL players have been reduced to a paltry 3 MPG of ice-time but at the AHL minimum of 4 shifts for forwards even the bare minimum guys are averaging around 4 mins per game. The fact is those 4 shifts will just be put on most teams top line to inflate their star forwards ice-time. Only 8 AHL teams had their 4th/5th line playing the minimum of 4 shifts, every other team exceeded the minimum. If a coach is creative like one particular GM was last year they can not only exceed the maximum shifts allowed but they can see that their star players are dressed on the 4th and 5th lines so that they end up playing 20 shifts per game. Eliminating the minimum shifts would just see the same thing happen for most teams, maxing out the shifts for their superstars. Dressing players and not having them designated on a line does not mean that the APBA game engine would throw these players out on the ice should an injury occur so in essence dressing 20 players would serve little if any purpose. There were only 31 NHL forwards who exceeded 20 MPG in 2007-08. At 15 shifts maximum which is the current rule I think most teams can find a way for the stars to play 20-22 MPG and perhaps more when you factor in specialty team play. Thus with the lack of teams who actually used the bare 4 shift minimum and the small amount of NHL forwards who need more than 15 shifts to achieve their real life ice time in the AHL I propose leaving the shifts minimum/maximum as is or at the very worst altering it to say 3 min and 16 max. One of the few things that make the AHL unique besides the "magic beans" is the lineup requirements of dressing and playing 20 players each game. It forces GM's to evaluate their teams more often, encourages trading, even if it's just to the FA pool, helps foster creativity and makes the FA Draft picks that much more important. My vote is to maintain what we have....besides this forces me to dress Spezza for 4 shifts a game otherwise he's the gatekeeper for his teammates lol Cam - Buffalo
bradu Quote \| Reply \|	line shift minimum/maximum rule change? replied on: 11/27/2008 10:30:52 PM good response. Not what I expected, but definitely touched on some things I didn't necessarily consider. Anyone else care to chime in?
sjstorm Quote \| Reply \|	line shift minimum/maximum rule change? replied on: 11/29/2008 9:38:39 PM The rules are fine the way they are, let's get the league going.
EdLeafs Quote \| Reply \|	line shift minimum/maximum rule change? replied on: 12/2/2008 8:24:37 AM I like it the way it is.
bradu Quote \| Reply \|	line shift minimum/maximum rule change? replied on: 12/2/2008 4:52:57 PM alrighty, we'll keep it the way it is! I actually like it the way it is, with one minor hiccup, and that's that it makes it a pain to look over rosters to make sure the requirements are met. I expected most people to want to get rid of the rule, so I'm kinda glad the responses I got were the opposite
dbrooks Quote \| Reply \| This message was updated on 12/9/2008 2:29:39 PM by dbrooks	line shift minimum/maximum rule change? replied on: 12/7/2008 9:53:33 PM Better late than never: Personally, I wouldn’t have objected to doing away with the shift requirements. Not that I ‘favor’ doing so, but I don’t think it would do much (if any) harm. More importantly, it would save Brad ‘some’ work in ensuring that teams’ profiles are in order. Unfortunately all-too-many GM’s neglect their profiles, yet Brad does a terrific job filling in the holes and covering injuries. Having to monitor shift requirements adds to that chore. Cam, for the record the AHL’s maximum shifts requirement for Forwards is 18 (not 15). In no way does that diminish the many excellent points you raised. In short, you made a very good argument for retaining shift requirements. If anyone disagrees with you (I certainly don’t), we wouldn’t know it. Like Brad, I’m glad we’re going to keep it the way it is. Don / PIT
buffalohead Quote \| Reply \|	line shift minimum/maximum rule change? replied on: 12/10/2008 12:54:57 AM Don you are correct I was thinking of Dman maximum shifts. So if it's 18 shifts for forwards that lends even more credence to my point of there be more than ample ways of forwards achieving their actual NHL MP in the AHL. Now let's get on to Season 6 action !!
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