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NH350Ariel
old hand
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hardest pub in Brum
replied on: 8/1/2003 12:12:42 AM

glad to be of help brother.
remember birmingham is not shit!
i hope you keep in touch with us. we need to take local history from the hands of local hstory societys and keep it real.
lazoo






hardest pub in Brum
replied on: 8/1/2003 12:14:37 AM

I shall return tommorow....good site this...i miss brum:( i live in devon now...
DrVeraJenkins
old dear
Rank: Jasper





hardest pub in Brum
replied on: 8/29/2003 11:36:46 PM

Yes. I am surprised that no one has mentioned the Stonehouse pub near weoley Castle. In fact, I could name half a dozen in Weoley Castle to be honest. Dreadful place. Good shops though. But the Stonehouse is a particular den of eniquity. My late husband and I were once on the bus going past the Stonehouse and the driver had cause to stop the bus because of some young hooligans upstairs. A group of burly looking men with tatoos came out of the pub and my late husband said, "I up, this lot'll come and help the driver". When didn't they start throwing beer glasses at the side of the bus. Awful. It put us right off travelling on the number 12 after that. And Bartley Green's no better, especially the pubs on that Woodgate Estate. Hobson's Choice ...you mean no blummin choice. Excuse my French. Thank you.
johnboy






hardest pub in Brum
replied on: 9/28/2003 1:55:48 PM

The Stonehouse is in fact one of many very nice local pups in the area

Woodgate Valley - a fine countryside town with a fine country park, featuring foxes, badgers, voles and the lesser spotted burned out escort mk2. Education is provided by Four Dwellings School, a fine upstanding teaching establishment, rumours of drug dealers at the gates selling drugs to the children are completely false. They`re there to buy. Pubs in the area are... well closing down. The Golden Cup (so bad it was demolished), The Monarch is steel shuttered and The Village Stump (re-furbed and re-opened as the village inn) soon to be gone on account of all the stabbings. Three pubs so rough they couldn`t exist.

Weoley Castle - a fortified citadel on the outskirts of which still exist the original 3 storey blocks, said to have been inhabited by those in limbo, families moved in in their thousands on the promise that they were being knocked down in 3 months and that they`d get a 3 bedroom semi when they were... 4 generations later and they are still there... When not stealing each others catalogue deliveries they can be found at The Stonehouse or, if its a saturday night and they want to go somewhere posh, where the blood is cleaned off the carpark every morning, it's The Castle. TBH the castle would be a nice local, the beer is excellent, people barred from all the other pubs on this list will drift in for occasional violence.

Bartley Green - A peaceful, green and pleasant area of birmingham, featuring a revervoir, sailing club and senneleys park where the once spectacular firework displays were stopped as gangs in the area developed a tactic for relieving people of their cash. The screams of violent muggings emanating from the darkness were thought to be the general noise of firework appreciation. The lush greenery and nautical air is complemented by tower blocks and desolate carparks.

Within 10 minutes of both the reservoir and the park is The Woodcock, a halfway point for many a young gent. When a mugging had been more violent than intended, a drink before disposing of his victims body would be a godsend. Closed down because of the sheer volume of drug use and violence. Now re-opened and refurbed, still has the reputation of being a dive. The Bale of Hay is right opposite a church and is known for its fight nights rather than karaoke, regulars are frequently spotted going into the church after a saturday night to pray for the dead and forget what they saw. The Hobsons Choice. Keep hold of your valuables here. Better still, leave anything of any value at home (that includes self respect and the respect for others) and you`ll fit right in.

Is it me or do nice locals just not exist anymore? this started out as a way to list hard pubs but I now realise that all my locals are as rough as each other. Theres not one pub within staggering distance I`d enjoy going to.

how about a friendly pub thread so I can try someone elses local and get a taxi home.

Dispite all this birmingham isn't shit.
Mittonsmate
Rank: Jasper





hardest pub in Brum
replied on: 10/14/2003 11:32:46 AM

What about The Sportsman cider pub in Nechells? Although I've never been inside it, I pass it every day, and a furtive glance through the window does give one the impression that it's a tad primeval in there.

One night a couple of years ago I saved the life of a totally paralytic fat bloke who was staggering around in the middle of the busy road directly outside there. After putting my own life at risk dragging him across to the central reservation, I then found that his trousers had fallen down. I'm afraid I ignored his request for me to pull them back up for him though, as passers-by could so easily have come to the wrong conclusion.
Gravy Hole
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hardest pub in Brum
replied on: 10/14/2003 11:56:34 AM

I'm not surprised by the state of the man (any man) coming out of a cider pub. All the patrons are by definition clogging up the lanes on the highway to oblivion. I am also not surprised that his strides fell down in the middle of the road. In general, I find that cider seems to give more "Ooh crikey! The Vicar!" moments than beer. I would go further and say not only does cider seem to give rise to accelerated beard growth and hair matting, a belief in the ability to fly and general incontinence, it almost always makes trousers head south.

Was your chubby new pal shouting at the traffic too?
Nap1st
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hardest pub in Brum
replied on: 10/14/2003 11:17:07 PM

what about the shotgun in castle vale (well its what the locals call it).
liquorlicence
likes beer and blues
Rank: Chinny
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hardest pub in Brum
replied on: 11/20/2003 3:40:48 PM

Isn't Sara Moons in the City Centre up there somewhere? I once saw two women, approximately 40 years old, having a hair pulling competition just outside the door. Thankfully I was sitting on the bus, which was stuck at the traffic lights, and not anywhere near the scrap.
DrVeraJenkins
old dear
Rank: Jasper





hardest pub in Brum
replied on: 11/20/2003 8:58:30 PM

When my sons were long haired hooligans in the 1970s they used to go to the football pubs in town. One supports the Villa and used to go in the Hole in The Wall, which if I remember was near Marks and the other supports Blues and does anyone else remember when they all gathered at, was it the Parasoll which was where the Ladbrookes Casino is near Hill Street? Or was it the Parisienne? Anyone remember? When Birmingham played Villa I feared for their lives in those pubs to be honest, never mind inside the grounds. I had my wedding reception in the Golden Eagle on Hill Street. It's gone now.
NH350Ariel
old hand
Rank: Ozzy





hardest pub in Brum
replied on: 11/20/2003 9:53:10 PM

I can only remember being in The Golden Eagle once. It was for a rock gig. I can not remember who the band was but it was generally Steve Gibbons in those days. All I remember of the pub was how vast the bogs were, they had no lights other than glass bricks in the ceiling that let a little street light in and there was water on the floor that came over your boots.
My mom reckons it used to be notorious for prostitution.
Mittonsmate
Rank: Jasper





hardest pub in Brum
replied on: 11/21/2003 12:42:16 PM

I used to drink in the Golden Eagle quite a lot. The Minstrel Wanderers could be found in there too, back in the days when Pigeon used to entertain everyone with gruesome acts of self-mutilation and by vigorously head-butting the walls until he passed-out.

Popular with stoned freaks and cycle tramps, it eventually closed in spectacular fashion with a full scale riot on the last night - the front page of the Mail next day showing a picture of a shell-shocked looking barman standing amid a big pile of rubble and matchwood where the bar had once been.
I think the headline was something like "The Siege of Hill Street."

Cool.
NH350Ariel
old hand
Rank: Ozzy





hardest pub in Brum
replied on: 11/21/2003 5:50:58 PM

That could have been the night that I was there. I seem to remember a lot of fighting.
Mittonsmate
Rank: Jasper





hardest pub in Brum
replied on: 11/21/2003 11:44:47 PM

quote:
That could have been the night that I was there. I seem to remember a lot of fighting.


I doubt it. I think there was a bit more than just fighting going on that night. Judging from the picture in the Mail, I suspect that sledgehammers and chainsaws were involved.
I had intended to be there myself that night, but I used to work as an operating theatre technician in those days, and was called-out for an emergency operation. By the time I got there at about 10 o'clock, police cars had blocked-off both ends of Hill Street and the cops were just about to storm-in and make mass arrests.

Saved by the bleep!
Mittonsmate
Rank: Jasper





hardest pub in Brum
replied on: 11/22/2003 2:27:03 PM

I had another lucky escape from biker-inflicted mayhem thanks to my job, when a gang of them systematically beat-up the punters at an after-hours warehouse party I used to attend.
These were held in a derelict warehouse on Fleet Street (where the "Islington Gates" yuppie appartments are now) about a year or so before the Acid House scene kicked-off, and featured some rather good live jazz-funk music. However, it seems a biker gang had decided to run some sort of extortion racket there, and on the one particular Saturday when I wasn't there because I had to work, they set about terrorizing the place by herding all the punters into a corner and then dragging them out one by one for a beating.
I was told that some people only escaped by jumping into the canal at the back of the place, and, needless to say, there were never any more parties there after that night.

BTW, are you, or have you ever been, a member of a bike gang, Ariel?

They all seem to be pretty much law-abiding citizens these days, and it's an entirely different bunch of outlaws who runnin' t'ings now.

NH350Ariel
old hand
Rank: Ozzy





hardest pub in Brum
replied on: 11/22/2003 2:42:10 PM

By chance I was talking to an old mate last night an he says we used to go to the Eagle quite often, it did not make a great impression on me!
I think we were in the habit of getting a lot of Ozzi White down our necks first in the Wine Lodge.
As they closed at 10 we used to go to another pub for the last pint, normaly it was the Windsor.
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