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H.J.	An absolutly brand new Mitton thread replied on: 3/17/2006 6:25:26 AM quote: I just read the post talking about the elephant man and then this drug trial thing happens and everyone in the press is talking about one of the guys looking like the elephant man. Thats a coincidence Russ. There must be something in what charlie says. Even m8e believes it really,he's just a twat! Maybe. I also noticed that the storyline of No Angels on Channel 4 the night before featured a clinical drug trial. (BTW, as a former hospital worker, I fully agree with the nurses who have protested that they are grievously misrepresented by the loutish grotesques portrayed in No Angels. In my experience they were always far more caring and professional - albeit far less entertaining) What's more my wife's a nurse. Not always an angel, shall wesay. Nice mate...coincidence again.
Derradah Rank: Toyah This message was updated on 3/17/2006 8:01:04 AM by Derradah	Ackroyd and Sinclair replied on: 3/17/2006 7:33:14 AM quote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/obituaries/story/0,3604,663873,00.html This guy has just appeared in both of two unrelated internet flanuerings.... http://www.litencyc.com/php/sworks.php?rec=true&UID=4868 An internet flaneuring just revealed this. It shows how what we are trying to do in the internet performance text has been attempted in Peter Ackroyd's novel, Hawksmoor at a literary level.Ackroyd's novel shows, likewise very much under the influence of Sinclair's 'Lud Heat' a very similar type of code.For instance, names change slightly over time e.g. Walter Payne/Walter Pyne. Meyrick/Meyrink (Der Golem)recurrs. They may even divert from one person to the next (Dyer/Hawksmoor). In our own account they occur and reoccur* naturally as part of a Mittonian acausal ontology.We actually have synchronicity on our side. Ackroyd, for all his literary knowledge can never acheive this since he has not got the magic faculty. He, of course, as part of the wider literary London text has to exist for us to provide the polar opposite. But, as has been demonstrated throughout the Mitton BINS threads, it happens in relation to many other events, names, books, places and people. Like the autistic Rain Man,it is unique. *One particularly haunting one to be found in both Ackroyd, Sinclair and De Quincey is the account of the Ratcliffe (Red Cliff)Highway murders where a baby is killed by a blow to the head. The families involved are the Marrs and the Williamsons. Charlie's mother's name was Mills (recalling Blake's Dark Satanic Mills) and she married, after losing him, into a family called Williamson.
Barriminge Rank: Jasper	Ackroyd and Sinclair replied on: 3/18/2006 4:24:18 PM What’s more. Charlie tells me that in his local library recently he came across a book by Ackroyd that he knew nothing about called ‘Kingdom of the Dead. Jouneys through Time’ which is basically for children but which tells us all we need to know about Ancient Egypt and many of the customs and rituals of that civilisation. It tells of their gods and gives a chronology. It tells us that it finished with Alexander the Great becoming a ‘Divine Liberator’ after a late period of Persian rule after which we had Macedonian and Ptolemaic rule which was basically Greek. It would be at this time that Thoth would have been replaced by Hermes. The Greek rule did however honour the Egyptian religious traditions but with different names and Hermes WAS Thoth. It was of course Hermes who gave his name to the Hermetic tradition which forms the basis of alchemy and the mystery traditions of which we have previously spoken. What is interesting though is that Alexander the Great died in 323 B.C. That means that when the ‘Po-Mo Blues Prophecy’ was completed in 2000, it had been 2323 years since the death of Alexander and by a curious coincidence it was only yesterday that Mitty picked up the book and worked out this arithmetical coup. Perculiar because yesterday, UKTV History featured a programme on Alexander the Great. However Ackroyd’s book says of Thoth: One major acheivement is associated with these obscure passages of early Egyptian history: the development of writing. The written language of the Egyptians is called hieroglyphs, from the Greek word for ‘holy signs’. Writing was a sacred activity, and the patron god of writing was Thoth, the god of wisdom who was also called ‘ the lord of the divine words’. Thoth’s sacred animals were the ibis( a wading bird) and the baboon, and he is represented in these forms. He was also a Moon god and was responsible for time and for counting. He had many duties, therefore, and remained one of the principal gods of Egypt throughout its history.” In this respect, the coincidences regarding Gravy Hole’s noticing Thoth being mentioned on University Challenge, his stays at Ibis hotels and his connections with the Shropshire Mytton would seem to be part of a geometry which would seem to be far more outstanding than Ackroyd’s since it has occurred in the real world in a text that has been contributed to by people that don’t know each other (despite Matey’s assinine and egotistical attempts at breaking the code necessary to demonstate this phenomenon). The Literary Encyclopedia’s piece on Ackroyd that is on the quoted website says that within the internal logic of Ackroyd’s closed system/novel there is a ‘logic’. This is what the Major Triad has called ‘metalogic’ and it is bearing fruit. The above quote from Ackroyd’s children’s book is on page 16. On the previous page the ‘monumental use of stone’ by the Egyptians is mentioned. Stone is a symbol of durability through eternity. Often ‘shabtis’ were placed in Egyptian tombs to act as ‘servants for the dead’. So we come to the small statue held by Martin Stone/Nicholas Lane in ‘The Cardinal and the Corpse’. 2000 years ago. Peru. Death. This is what one of the voices said that Charlie heard at the Prince of Wales when they played Madeleine Peyroux singing ‘Dance me to the end of Love’. The quotation reappears as an epigraph to a section entitled ‘Swedenborg’s Orchard’ in Iain Sinclair’s ‘Radon Daughers’. Swedenborg – Blake - Yeats – Golden Dawn Sitting Rooms. Connections with the Hermetic traditions mount but the piece from the Lit. Enc. Says that Ackroyd comes down on the side of rationality but that must be because he as a single authorial voice is necessarily faced by the conundrum of the ‘singularity’
m8e Rank: Ozzy This message was updated on 3/18/2006 10:07:09 PM by m8e	Ackroyd and Sinclair replied on: 3/18/2006 9:22:12 PM Your mentioning Ackroyd and Sinclair has prompted me to re-read Sinclair's ostensible "review" of Ackroyd's Blake biography in the London Review of Books - which famously, as subsequent letters of complaint pointed out, doesn't actually review Ackroyd's book at all. Instead, Sinclair describes how he, quote: "broke the book's spine and hacked the text into portable portions - before setting off, on foot, to search out traces of Blake in the city." He describes the exercise as "dowsing for spiritual residues gifted to London by the list of addresses exposed to the uninitiated in the Ackroyd biography." Then - after musing that "the only London scribe you can rely on smacking up against, two or three times in a fifteen miles trot in any direction that takes your fancy, is Stewart Home; always rabbiting like a speed freak and snorting with derisive laughter" - he describes how at the end of his epic walk he synchronictically bumps into Ackroyd himself in the street! Seems that Charlie is far from having a monopoly on synchronicity.
Barriminge Rank: Jasper	Ackroyd and Sinclair replied on: 3/19/2006 9:00:53 AM quote: Your mentioning Ackroyd and Sinclair has prompted me to re-read Sinclair's ostensible "review" of Ackroyd's Blake biography in the London Review of Books - which famously, as subsequent letters of complaint pointed out, doesn't actually review Ackroyd's book at all. Instead, Sinclair describes how he, quote: "broke the book's spine and hacked the text into portable portions - before setting off, on foot, to search out traces of Blake in the city." He describes the exercise as "dowsing for spiritual residues gifted to London by the list of addresses exposed to the uninitiated in the Ackroyd biography." Then - after musing that "the only London scribe you can rely on smacking up against, two or three times in a fifteen miles trot in any direction that takes your fancy, is Stewart Home; always rabbiting like a speed freak and snorting with derisive laughter" - he describes how at the end of his epic walk he synchronictically bumps into Ackroyd himself in the street! Seems that Charlie is far from having a monopoly on synchronicity. Kay Parkhurst Easson and Roger R. Easson in their commentary to Blake’s Milton (Shambhala . Boulder/Random House.!978) tell us that: “ The two-book structure of ‘Milton’ represents the contrary states that Blake saw as necessary for spiritual progression and energetic existence. The contraries oppose the notion of duality, an either/or relationship between opposites, which inevitably results in the tyranny of one over the other, a situation, of course pervading Natural Religion. In dualism there is no progression: there is merely a fluctuation between opposite poles.” (P. 160)” Sinclair and Ackroyd, as might be deduced from Sinclair’s review and other sources have an interest in the work of Blake. At the beginning of the review of which you speak Sinclair tells of a visit to the wife of Beat associate Carolyn Cassady and ruminates on how Beat paraphanalia has now become part of heritage culture. He looks at her bookshelf and sees work by Peter Ackroyd. He writes: “ Carolyn doted on Ackroyd. ‘Hawksmoor’ the novel and ‘Dickens’ the life. Peter was surely joshing her when he said that he was no initiate, had no knowledge of, or interest in magical systems. He was the pivot, the man who had single-handedly made the arcane popular.” That’s a laugh, isn’t it? We all know that Ackroyd ripped off the bones of the plot from Sinclair himself who in turn has denied equally any knowledge of being part of any occult group. In fact some years ago there was an interview with the Independent where he said he merely wished to open up the imagination of people. Perhaps neither of them wish to be lumped with the likes of David Icke. The review in the LRB goes on to dig at how Ackroyd himself is part of the media hype/heritage culture situation. At the end of it, as you say, there is a strange coincidence where he actually meets the former Islington scribe. He finishes the review thus: “ I mentioned the difficulties with the Blake review. He barely remembered that one, ancient history…….. The man had purchased, by some awful Faustian bargain, a sense of time that most of us would never begin to comprehend. He’d been granted the Einsteinian gold card, which appointed him the memory conduit for a literary culture that was disappearing as fast as he processed it. Awestruck, eyes to the ground. I plodded on.” This digging at those who would appear to have the same metaphysical interests as himself, he has of course done before. I think not only of Peter Whitehead but the Ketamine Kreeps. I read the giant coincidence of meeting Ackroyd in this manner as being itself, not an endorsement of Ackroyd’s style necessarily, but at least a wink in the direction of one who builds his true thrust around synchronicity which is part and parcel of the magic template which is suggested by the original ‘Hawksmoor' of ‘Lud Heat’. The one where sinister events over time seem to recurr in the same area ( I think of Cannon Street Road in particular). And then when the name of Martin Stone crops up in real life and in a novel by Emmanuel Litvinoff it happens once more. Both Ackroyd and Sinclair can only, by their codes, suggest deranged magical theories which hang together by coincidence but provide no conclusive evidence.
Derradah Rank: Toyah	Ackroyd and Sinclair replied on: 3/20/2006 8:21:58 AM Matey must be thanked for drawing our attention to the peculiarities of Sinclair’s review of Ackroyd’s ‘Blake’. I have to say that there is much in it which would lead us to the conclusion that the review itself is part of Sinclair’s wider intention. In fact it once again recalls the old nutmeg of the Sinclair review of Carmen St. Keeldare’s ‘Pulp Election’ (which was really written by Peter Whitehead) and which significantly is juxtaposed with a review of Howard Marks’s ‘Nr. Nice ( the same but opposite). For this reason the text itself must be regarded as holding similar tropes as may be found in the ostensibly literary works. The same could be applied to the letter written to m8e by Sinclair on the contention by Mitton that the St. Keeldare review was either written about him or it’s a coincidence of giant proportions. Whichever way, it’s a reading. Matey has never been able to escape a nothing more than literal reading of most of these works. For Charlie there is another important fact which supports his thesis. In the late 90’s Sinclair did a review of a James Sallis book which once again led to an ACOP which has been catalogued on this site. Sinclair was obviously knocked back by this and sent ‘Bad Boy’ a copy of The London Review of Books containing the piece along with a note which read : ‘As promised the Sallis improvisation (preview of the film : Asylum)’. This would lead us to believe that the review was as much of a creative and therefore metaphorical ( in the post-structuralist sense of the word) piece of work as a novel or poem. The same can be applied to the letter received by Matey. In other words, it contains its own contrary. The same can be applied to the Blake review which , as you say does not constitute a literary review as most people would think of it. It contains anecdote, gossip, literary digression, off the wall musings etc. It also, it must be said sounds, is at times downright pompous and just a little eccentric. Barri’s account also leads me to the conclusion that the Blake review is equally a ‘coincidence of contraries’. He appears to feign wonder at Ackroyd’s pretensions. ‘Awesrtuck’ is a sign which I believe has a twist to it. It’s very possible to suppose that he is awestruck at the coincidence of meeting Ackroyd after performing what might be interpreted as a covertly ‘magical act’. Once again - we ‘resolute non-metropolitans have learnt, in the Age of the Floating Signifier , not to believe that things are what people say they are’ ( Landor’s Tower. P.285).
m8e Rank: Ozzy	Ackroyd and Sinclair replied on: 3/20/2006 11:55:46 PM Perhaps the main distinction between Mittonian synchronicity and the Sinclair-Ackroyd synchronicity is the element of "intention." Sinclair explicitly states, quote - "I confess it: I hoped that my journey would conjure up the presence of the Islington magus." In accordance with Crowley's vague dictum that "Magic is the art of of causing change in accordance with Will," this intentional element makes the Sinclair-Ackroyd synchronicity more explicitly "magical" than the Mittonian variety, and indeed the latter would fail to constitute a magical phenomenon at all if judged according to the psychical researcher J.H. Brennan's suggestion that magic should be seen as the art of generating synchronistic effects to order. Thus Mittonian synchronicity could perhaps be described as "pseudo-magic" - in that Charlie is merely a collector of synchronicities, rather than a conjuror of them.
m8e Rank: Ozzy	Ackroyd and Sinclair replied on: 3/22/2006 8:36:50 AM Sorry if my posts have been a bit negative of late, boss - but how are you ever going to get a coincidence of contraries without a contrary? To the sufficiently expanded/stoned mind, it's all grist for the dialectic mill.
m8e Rank: Ozzy This message was updated on 3/25/2006 6:54:20 AM by m8e	Charlie bounces back but misses out replied on: 3/25/2006 1:32:51 AM Had a brief encounter with a relatively sober-looking Chas on my way to the Stage last night, and would have been happy to buy him a drink or two in there (tomato juice of course), as there was a free & easy blues jam session on, featuring Chicken-bone John and his mates. What can I say? Competently played guitar blues with virtuoso Chicago sandwich embellishment - but somehow missing that real blues bad-craziness element which only Chas could have lent to the proceedings.
H.J.	Charlie bounces back but misses out replied on: 3/31/2006 8:54:50 AM quote: Had a brief encounter with a relatively sober-looking Chas on my way to the Stage last night, and would have been happy to buy him a drink or two in there (tomato juice of course), as there was a free & easy blues jam session on, featuring Chicken-bone John and his mates. What can I say? Competently played guitar blues with virtuoso Chicago sandwich embellishment - but somehow missing that real blues bad-craziness element which only Chas could have lent to the proceedings. Yes I told Chaz about this event because Chicken Bone had phoned me to tell me and chaz to come but I think I told him the wrong date.He seems to have given up turning up at Blues Collective gigs. He's become anti- music but I think he might mean anti- barstaff.
m8e Rank: Ozzy	Charlie bounces back but misses out replied on: 4/1/2006 10:47:18 PM quote: quote: Had a brief encounter with a relatively sober-looking Chas on my way to the Stage last night, and would have been happy to buy him a drink or two in there (tomato juice of course), as there was a free & easy blues jam session on, featuring Chicken-bone John and his mates. What can I say? Competently played guitar blues with virtuoso Chicago sandwich embellishment - but somehow missing that real blues bad-craziness element which only Chas could have lent to the proceedings. Yes I told Chaz about this event because Chicken Bone had phoned me to tell me and chaz to come but I think I told him the wrong date.He seems to have given up turning up at Blues Collective gigs. He's become anti- music but I think he might mean anti- barstaff. I hear that the bar staff at The Actress & Bishop became somewhat anti-Chas on Sunday.
Gravy Hole Rank: Oddie	Charlie bounces back but misses out replied on: 4/11/2006 9:58:05 AM Anyone else see the double episode of University Challenge last night? Questions regarding Entropy (and the scientific measurement thereof) occured just five minutes before questions on beat generation literature (including none other than Billy-Bob Burroughs).
Derradah Rank: Toyah	Charlie bounces back but misses out replied on: 4/13/2006 11:41:19 PM quote: Anyone else see the double episode of University Challenge last night? Questions regarding Entropy (and the scientific measurement thereof) occured just five minutes before questions on beat generation literature (including none other than Billy-Bob Burroughs). Considering that these threads have been a consideration of synchronicity as a form of symbolic negentropy, I was motivated to reply to Gravy's posting after reading Anthony Easthope's book 'British Post-Structuralism since 1968' which mentions the pioneering work of Stuart Hall and the Birmingham Centre for Contemporary Cultural Studies. Not only that though but it goes on to discuss how that lead to the U203 course at the Open University which went on to offer 5,000 students the opportunity to research popular culture until it finished in 1987. Thing is though that when I returned to this site I found that this present thread had been viewed 2003 times.Once more then the consideration of a type of non-linear mathematics of the Prigoginian kind has come to mind.
Gravy Hole Rank: Oddie This message was updated on 4/25/2006 11:51:06 AM by Gravy Hole	An absolutly brand new Mitton thread replied on: 4/25/2006 11:50:01 AM quote: quote: Are you saying that's the connection, or is this a new observation? Who? Me? Erm, neither really. I'm just saying something terrible's happened. It's not really a new observation, more of a new Mittonian ACOP. Terrible it is, terrible. And new. My brother got hit by a bus last week in Malvern. That's not the terrible thing though, it's actually quite funny to see one's brother in pain. After all the questions about which bus hit my brother, I completely forgot to tell you what the terrible thing was. Well, what I meant to say was the Mytton Arms had shut down and that I think you'll agree is about as terrible as it gets. Now there is even worse terrible news. In fact the news is more terrible than is possibly for the human mind to comprehend. Prepare ye Mitton Massive to have your psyches ruptured.
Brummie Handshake	An absolutly brand new Mitton thread replied on: 4/27/2006 3:36:01 AM This thread seems to have gone quiet. However, while,watching tele the other day, I came across a new word. It is 'mythun'. Doing a google search I came across the following: "Mythun (Counterpart of Cattle). ... The mythun is regarded as an essential item in Chin cultural ceremonies and traditional feasts. The male mythun have no humps." I was however not surprised that the word produced 234 results. And, Gravy Hole's posting seems ominous....
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