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Barriminge
Rank: Jasper This message was updated on 3/11/2006 11:39:57 PM by Barriminge |
Alan Moores' insprirations
replied on: 3/11/2006 11:38:34 PM quote:quote: By starting a thread on this site about Alan Moore was the way in which Racheymaus was synchromeshed and synchronicity is of course the way in which our 'magick' manifests itself. Mitty has since learned that he was a friend of Rachey's father when they were in college in the late 60's. Sinclair's whole text is itself coincidence strewn as testified to by RACHEL Lichtenstein when she did the 'Rodinsky' project with Sinclair. I repeat that this Birmingham text, by acting as the contrary to Sinclair's, is producing once more the real magick. For that reason it's something that, in intertextual terms, is utterly unique, since patterns are forming as if by a will of their own although they seem to have chosen Mitton as the conduit. |
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m8e
Rank: Ozzy |
Synchronicity or Not
replied on: 3/12/2006 10:30:17 AM quote: What do you mean, "factually wrong"? Are you saying you know more than Sadie Plant? I bet you don't even know what methamphetamine is, do you? Seems like the more partial and parochial your knowledge of anything - particularly music, cultural history and drugs - the more pompously you pontificate on it. Not an endearing trait. |
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Russ-L
Rank: Jasper |
An absolutly brand new Mitton thread
replied on: 3/12/2006 11:26:39 AM I may have (probably have) missed the point, but the fact that Hitler was proscribed methamphetamine by Theodore Morel isn't exactly an esoteric bit of knowledge. Pretty much any semi-detailed account of his life will include the fact. |
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Barriminge
Rank: Jasper This message was updated on 3/12/2006 8:13:22 PM by Barriminge |
An absolutly brand new Mitton thread
replied on: 3/12/2006 2:03:35 PM quote: "What sort of risks are attached to dance drugs such as LSD and amphetamines? This is a more difficult question to answer. However, both LSD and amphetamines have a history that the government would prefer us to forget. Some 72 million amphetamine tablets were issued to British troops in the Second World War to boost morale.Winston Churchill and Anthony Eden both used amphetamines before important speeches. They are powerful stimulants, exciting and speeding up the nervous system." So an international conference reprted. Hitler's physician was Morell. Churchill's was Moran. The difference in names is an occult accident Coincidence, eh! That's the main thing. The rest's academic. |
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Derradah
Rank: Toyah This message was updated on 3/13/2006 4:31:43 AM by Derradah |
Synchronicity or Not
replied on: 3/13/2006 4:08:10 AM quote:quote: Matey once again rises in anger to the bait. First of all ,as a voice in an internet chatarea, I can’t see that it matters whether the point of view is parochial and partial or not. And in this era of wall to wall information whose knowledge is not partial? Then there’s the fact that you seem to have the idea that you are speaking to one person but that is not how the conditions of our text have been set. We are deliberately apeing a conglomerate London text which , as part of its modus operandi, is multivocular. The voices of Sinclair’s ‘ Norton’ or Home’s ‘Trocchi’ use pomposity to demonstrate its opposite. First of all though, to answer in your language, you say that: ‘ I bet you don’t know what methamphetamine is’. Well, in the previous posting, you have already told us what it is – speed. As for Sadie Plant, I’m sure that in some areas we all know more than Sadie Plant, who has been necessarily tied up by being an academic and more recently by being a mother. As we have said too many times now, the real aim of the Mitton threads is to demonstrate how he is , by some strange quirk of fate, a thoroughgoing ‘site of coincidence’. In fact , you yourself , in your own way, have acknowledged this and by your own dialectical standards, keep taking yourself into statements that deconstruct each other. I had been caused to re-read ‘White Chappell Scarlet Tracings’ and its implications about how pairings, opposites, poles etc. were so important. Dryfield and Nicholas Lane are ‘the poles between which the living current ran’. It is clear that they are archetypes and suggest a system reminiscent of Jung but employing its own symbolism. I realized how this notion of intertextuality which we have hit upon is so deeply rooted. ‘Dyer’ – ‘woollen draper’ has the same name as Peter Ackroyd’s Nicholas Dyer in his novel ‘Hawksmoor’ ( an architect) while ‘Hawksmoor’ becomes a detective. Indeed the detective genre is a theme to be pursued and the narrator in ‘White Chappell’ talks of a ‘reverse detective fiction’ – again itself suggesting the ‘coincidence of contrarieties’ which is the underground stem of our rhizome from which our various roots and shoots may grow. The writers were mediums and we, in these threads, pursue our own reverse detective fiction. I have also had cause to re-investigate the pairing of Rachel Lichtenstein and Sinclair in ‘Rodinsky’s Room’ which also brings up the figure of David Litvinoff (sometimes spelt Litvinov). Sometime ago , while exploring the latter, Chaz unearthed a character in Moseley , purely by coincidence, whose name was David Litvanov. This is a similar occult grammar which threw up Morel and Moran, Lane and Land and Mitton and Mytton. They all seem to appear in our narrative right on cue. The most telling one however at this point is that energy that emanates from between the names ‘Merrick’( the famous Elephant Man mentioned in White Chappell) and Gustav Meyrink, creator of ‘ Der Golem’ – such an important figure in Sinclair’s geometry. Meyrink wrote a novel about John Dee and Edward Kelley ( a pairing) who bring us back to Alan Moore (just for Trystero). The Elephant Man, Joseph Merrick, is a Caliban (Ariel, take note) to Dr. Treves while Litvinoff and Rodinsky represent their own kind of duality which stretches its tentacles out not only to our own text but to the other satellites of Sinclair and beyond. Within this recent research though I have unearthed further uncanny evidence of the Mittonian interdimensional force trick. Litvinoff ,we are told in Sinclair’s essay ‘ Mobile Invisibility’( to be found in ‘R. R.’), left his ‘blues tapes’ and that he ‘busked’ his way. He was a ‘chat artist’ and his situaton in life left him comfortable enough to do what he liked without playing the game of producing regularized art projects. He was , in short, his own type of performance artist. Gerry Goldstein, who is in ‘The Cardinal and the Corpse’ is able to produce a tape on which there is not blues but a dialogue with a tramp which invites a comparison with Pinter’s ‘Caretaker’. He is able to witness a Litvinoff ‘performance’ where he extracts energy from the persona of the tramp whose name is significant in Charlie’s life – ‘John Golding’ ( a secret). Then today, after reading your nitpicking concerning amphetamine and methamphetamine I came upon two quotes in ‘ Rodinsky’s Room’: “Here the objects bring about an entropy consciousness, a half delirious appreciation of apocalypse. Revelation out of dust and corruption.” (P.199) Enropy and our old friend negentropy. The return of the Tristero. This is the garret of a man described as ‘autistic’ ( the word re-appears) whose contrary is sought. And then I solved the problem of Matey’s conundrum: “ The golem , deactivated, broken up, is locked in the attic: the word inscribed on his brow, EMETH (Truth) has become METH (death).” (P.194) I really do not know the difference between amphetamine and methamphetamine but have enjoyed your prefix. |
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Barriminge
Rank: Jasper |
An absolutly brand new Mitton thread
replied on: 3/13/2006 9:27:30 AM quote: And Russ is synchromeshed not only by Mor-- and Mor--.but by the fact that he makes the 123rd posting. Also the date was 3/12/2006.3+12+ 2+ 6=23 |
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trystero
Rank: Toyah |
An absolutly brand new Mitton thread
replied on: 3/13/2006 11:55:37 AM http://www.guardian.co.uk/obituaries/story/0,3604,663873,00.html This guy has just appeared in both of two unrelated internet flanuerings.... |
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Derradah
Rank: Toyah |
An absolutly brand new Mitton thread
replied on: 3/13/2006 10:12:14 PM quote: http://www.furious.com/Perfect/situationism.html |
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H.J.
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An absolutly brand new Mitton thread
replied on: 3/14/2006 7:24:55 AM quote: I can relate to the older situationist connections with 20thcentury art movements like dada but after I'd wread your post I watched something on channel 4 which featured all kinds of new forms of shock art with people covered in shitblood and puke.I was a bit of a beat and existentialist like Charlie and studied art but I've got kids and dont think all of its good for growing minds. I suppose tho adults like to have their fun these days. |
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Barriminge
Rank: Jasper |
An absolutly brand new Mitton thread
replied on: 3/14/2006 11:00:20 AM quote:quote: Charlie tells me that he has noted how, coincidentally, a quote from Pynchon appears as epigraph at the head of Sinclair’s ‘Mobile Invisibility’ piece in ‘Rodinsky’s Room. Stewart Home meanwhile interviewed Ralph Rumney for Art Monthly back in 1989. It was Rumney who set up the London Psychogeographical Association. George Robertson in ‘What is Situationism: A Reader’ ( ed. Stewart Home) tells us that English and American groups such as Heatwave, Black Mask and King Mob emerged and splintered from the original Situationist International set up in the early 50’s. He says on PAGE 123 (where else?): “ A particular type of English Romanticism is evident from their graffiti ( which was the most obvious sign of their existence): ‘ The Road of Excess leads to the Palace of Wisdom (Blake) / The Tygers of Wrath are Wiser than the Horses of Instruction ( Blake).” Figures such as Trocchi and Rumney were responsible for the import of Situationism into England and so our plot thickens. Stewart Home’s interview with Rumney is there in the Reader as is a piece by Matey’s heroine Sadie Plant whose piece ‘ The Situationist International: A Case of Spectacular Neglect’ reflects upon it’s inevitable recuperation. Chaz says that he remembers mentioning Sinclair’s name to Sadie and recalls how she had said that she had read somewhere of their monickers being bandied around as significant figures in contemporary writing on ‘cultural’ matters, although she was not herself acquainted with the work of the Metropolitan seer. How though does Sinclair’s ludic concentration on ‘doppelgangers, contraries, twins etc. sit with the po-mo deconstruction of opposites which Sadie Plant has reflected upon or the post-structuralist question of ‘grand narratives’. As we’ve inferred . Paris, London, New York and Manchester are often mentioned but how about our own psychogeometry of ACOPS which draws in alchemy, Egyptology, the mystery traditions and ‘new science’ to produce magick through synchronicity as a refusal of recuperation. This particular type of English Romanticism is B’hams antidote to Sinclair’s Necropolis and is here in this very thread. |
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H.J.
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An absolutly brand new Mitton thread
replied on: 3/14/2006 12:43:46 PM quote: Dony worry Russ I just noticed Im tha 1523rd viewing |
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Russ-L
Rank: Jasper |
An absolutly brand new Mitton thread
replied on: 3/14/2006 9:00:14 PM Phew. Thank God for that. The worry nearly got to the level of panic. |
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H.J.
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An absolutly brand new Mitton thread
replied on: 3/16/2006 7:18:12 AM quote: I'm panicing. I just read the post talking about the elephant man and then this drug trial thing happens and everyone in the press is talking about one of the guys looking like the elephant man. Thats a coincidence Russ. There must be something in what charlie says. Even m8e believes it really,he's just a twat! |
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m8e
Rank: Ozzy This message was updated on 3/16/2006 11:16:11 PM by m8e |
An absolutly brand new Mitton thread
replied on: 3/16/2006 11:12:49 PM quote:quote: Maybe. I also noticed that the storyline of No Angels on Channel 4 the night before featured a clinical drug trial. (BTW, as a former hospital worker, I fully agree with the nurses who have protested that they are grievously misrepresented by the loutish grotesques portrayed in No Angels. In my experience they were always far more caring and professional - albeit far less entertaining) |
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Derradah
Rank: Toyah This message was updated on 3/17/2006 1:29:33 AM by Derradah |
Slightly Foxed
replied on: 3/17/2006 1:06:29 AM I wouldn’t describe Matey as a complete twat since, as has been pointed out, his role as ‘intellectual ears to the ground’ or gopher has been essential for our psychogeomtry. What I have to say might divert him slightly. Charlie says that yesterday he came across something which helps to pull together some of the strands of which we have been speaking. He came upon a book which told of how Nicholas de Cusa had believed in a ‘coincidentia oppositorium’ and how he and our old friend Giordano Bruno had emphasized the coincidence of contraries in all things. Although we have discussed this before, and Jack would probably know better than me, I did not know how crucial the figure of Bruno had been. A crucial text seems to be ‘Finnegan’s Wake’ which, as well as being crucial to Robert Anton Wilson’s exposition in ‘Coincidance’, was said to demonstrate Joyce’s interest in Bruno. It was, of course, relevant to Charlie and therefore Matey too since the ‘bear’ and ‘brown’ connections are written of by Sinclair in ‘ Landor’s Tower’ in regards to a Bruno connection with the Ketamine Kreeps. This Bruno mention also shoves us back to Stewart Home and his new novel ‘Tainted love’ which echoes not only Charlie’s paper on beatnikry for the 1998 conference on the 60’s, ‘Coming down Fast’, but also his audio works, ‘ The Postmodernist Blues’ and ‘The Field Recordings’ which ironically reflect back blues related ontologies. Home’s work deals with the same twilight areas of the hidden sixties not only mentioning guitar heroes like Bert Jansch and Davy Graham but stews them up with infamous pubs, popular culture and biography. He bases it around the mother/junkie/whore/philosopher figure who is first person narrator and is caught between the ‘ Church of Celestial Awakening’ and her life of artificial stimulants. A duality which constitutes the reality of her life. Strangely though, once again a name crops up which we have heard before – Giordano. He is the man that she loves but her emotions are double-edged. Her love yields an energy which results in both pleasure and pain. A coincidence of contraries. Giordano Bruno is considered a ‘Neo-Platonist and Home states in the 1996 polemical sheet, ‘Re-Action’: “As heirs to the Neo-Platonic ‘traditions’ including that of alchemy, it is not surprising that the Situationists theorised the ‘spectacle’ as a social system in which the true was a moment of the false” or: “…..those who maintain that we possess secret knowledge need to be reminded of Giordano Bruno’s observation that ‘everything, however men may deem it assured and evident, proves when it is brought under discussion, to be no less doubtful than are extravagant and absurd beliefs.” And then: “ along with this he says that’we’ve combined the hidden and the visible so that they may corrode each other, along with those who wish to imprison us with their binary ideology. “. In a later edition of ‘Re-Action’, the newsletter of the Neoist Alliance, an ACOP occurs which forever must be part of our catalogue. It is from 398MKE ( by this point Home is using the Khemetic Calendar). An Unknown Neoist speaks of a journey to the Arnolfini Gallery in Bristol where he meets Iain Sinclair who is being given a copy of ‘Open Verdict: An Account of 25 mysterious deaths in the defence industry’ by one of the ‘Silent Bards’. Sinclair is said to have returned then to London without mentioning ‘Dr. Mintern’ who the Neoist is said to be searching for. Events are later said to have taken a sinister turn when he finds two ‘slightly foxed’ copies of the rare and out of print paperback copy of ‘Open Verdict’ in a bookshop. He also later finds a copy of Aleister Crowley’s ‘Moonchild’ in a second hand bookshop causing him to reflect upon Crowley’s ‘occult system’ where books are ‘powerful talismans’. He then proceeds to ‘suicide bridge’ (N.B. the textual pairing with Sinclair’s ‘ Suicide Bridge’) or Clifton Suspension Bridge. He sees Dr. Mintern appear from a cave on the cliff side and holler: ‘What we walk is myth flattened into space. It’s Hide’ Mintern then disappears back into the underchalk. Chalk, as we’ve mentioned before , is a powerful symbol in the anti-placeist mythology This is seriously perplexing since some time later our own ‘Mitton’, after appearing as a fictional character (who gets involved in mysterious defence industry deaths) in ‘Landor’s Tower’ goes to an event at the Arnolfini where he has a paperback edition of L. T. for the author to sign. Sinclair goes back to London without doing so and leaving an assembled throng in the bar waiting for his company. The next day, after staying (like the Unknown Neoist ) at a hotel, he goes to Clifton and finds in a second hand bookshop, another copy of ‘ Landor’s Tower’ and as if to bear out Crowley’s notion, it is SIGNED by the author. Mitton couldn’t get his wig off. And now he had two slightly foxed copies. What a freakshow! Mitton, meanwhile, prefacing his own work, ‘The Po-Mo Blues Prophecy’ calls it a ‘doctoral thesis novel’ thereby , by implication, christening himself ‘Dr. Mitton’. This Dr. Mitton therefore becomes a literary wraith or fetch, corresponding to the Unknown Neoist’s ‘Dr. Mintern’ fitting snugly with our proposition of an occult grammar –‘ translation is not word perfect, it’s occult grammar is not constructed with full consciousness: accidents occur’. Lud Heat.P.29) Indeed, the perculiar resonance of the second set of events (now seen as text) with the first fits with our greater psychogeometry where the wider London text of Sinclair and his satellites can be read as an oneiric repesentation of what actually happened to Mitton on his visit to Bristol. We can say that the Re-Action sheet wrote, in this manner, about the appearance of Chaz or it is just one big coincidence. Whichever way the Mittonian Thesis again stands its ground. The similarity in form however with other ACOPs suggests that there is something in the idea that reality can take a mosaic-like form which takes care to match like with like, recalling again some of the off the wall ideas of Robert Anton Wilson |
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