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brummielass2006	Ashamed? posted on: 1/9/2007 12:05:04 PM What makes you ashamed of being from brum?
bounder chairman of the board Rank: Ozzy	Ashamed? replied on: 1/9/2007 3:42:01 PM are you trying to write an essay or something?
peakyblinder old hand Rank: Chinny	Ashamed? replied on: 1/10/2007 1:21:00 PM Sounds like it. Or maybe going through some form of mid-life crisis. Don't worry about it, love. Get over it and move on: life's too short. Or is it very long when you're lonely?
brummielass2006	Ashamed? replied on: 1/10/2007 7:46:59 PM no its not an essay. i'm doing some graphic design work to promote birmingham and invoke a sense of pride in us brummies. for this i need to research what it is people like and dislike about birmingham. its not a midlife crisis! if i was having a midlife crisis at 24 i'd be worried.
kingshurstphil Rank: Toyah	Ashamed? replied on: 1/10/2007 9:22:16 PM Birmingham city council makes me ashamed to be from brum, but thats only because they have a fantastic history of coming up short for people from brum the bullring is a tat shed that has robbed us of a once great city centre. new street station is a shambles and broad street is living proof that you can have too much of a good thing. any other thoughts?
bounder chairman of the board Rank: Ozzy	Ashamed? replied on: 1/11/2007 7:48:23 AM as lazy as i am as well, i's suggest reading through a few of the threads on the site - the top forum is all about why we're proud, the next one down about why we're not ;)
peakyblinder old hand Rank: Chinny	Ashamed? Yes and no. replied on: 1/11/2007 10:55:27 AM quote: no its not an essay. i'm doing some graphic design work to promote birmingham and invoke a sense of pride in us brummies. for this i need to research what it is people like and dislike about birmingham. its not a midlife crisis! if i was having a midlife crisis at 24 i'd be worried. Oh, soz bab. But surely if you're interested in promoting Brum you should be focusing on the likes rather than the dislikes. The problem you have, I fear, is defining what a Brummie is. Does Brummie mean anyone from Brum or just working-class citizens? What is Brum, anyway? Is it Birmingham as defined by the city council or by its citizens? Is it Brum as defined by socio-political or geographical boundaries? Are Asian and other ethnic minorities included in your definition of Brummie? If so, then I would say that Birmingham truly is multicultural when compared to London (which promotes itself as multicultural, but consists mainly of tourists, students and commuters) and other cities. People from all over the country and other areas of the globe have been migrating into the city for centuries and we are indeed proud of our model of integration. The Brum civic motto is 'Forward', and I think that sets us apart too. We are a very forward-thinking and progressive lot (too much, perhaps, sometimes): both innovative and industrious. If there's one thing that really does set us Brummies apart from the rest of the UK, however, it is our self-deprecating humour. We laugh at the pompous, self-congratulatory and too often misplaced pride of other cities and just get on with it. Unlike natives of other cities, we are aware of our strengths and weaknesses, but don't brag about our strengths and don't try to hide our weaknesses. Our lack of pride, if you like, is what makes us proud. Hope that helps. If you're looking for images rather than sounbites, though, try something multi-coloured and multi-faceted or maybe something juxtapositioning old and new, good and bad in an Eisenteinian fashion, if you know what I mean.
brummielass2006	Ashamed? Yes and no. replied on: 1/22/2007 1:35:42 PM quote: quote: no its not an essay. i'm doing some graphic design work to promote birmingham and invoke a sense of pride in us brummies. for this i need to research what it is people like and dislike about birmingham. its not a midlife crisis! if i was having a midlife crisis at 24 i'd be worried. Oh, soz bab. But surely if you're interested in promoting Brum you should be focusing on the likes rather than the dislikes. The problem you have, I fear, is defining what a Brummie is. Does Brummie mean anyone from Brum or just working-class citizens? What is Brum, anyway? Is it Birmingham as defined by the city council or by its citizens? Is it Brum as defined by socio-political or geographical boundaries? Are Asian and other ethnic minorities included in your definition of Brummie? If so, then I would say that Birmingham truly is multicultural when compared to London (which promotes itself as multicultural, but consists mainly of tourists, students and commuters) and other cities. People from all over the country and other areas of the globe have been migrating into the city for centuries and we are indeed proud of our model of integration. The Brum civic motto is 'Forward', and I think that sets us apart too. We are a very forward-thinking and progressive lot (too much, perhaps, sometimes): both innovative and industrious. If there's one thing that really does set us Brummies apart from the rest of the UK, however, it is our self-deprecating humour. We laugh at the pompous, self-congratulatory and too often misplaced pride of other cities and just get on with it. Unlike natives of other cities, we are aware of our strengths and weaknesses, but don't brag about our strengths and don't try to hide our weaknesses. Our lack of pride, if you like, is what makes us proud. Hope that helps. If you're looking for images rather than sounbites, though, try something multi-coloured and multi-faceted or maybe something juxtapositioning old and new, good and bad in an Eisenteinian fashion, if you know what I mean. in order to promote birmingham i have to look at both the positive and negative sides to it. its not enough to accentuate what people already like, i really need to change their mind or try to change their minds about what they dislike, thus this is equally important. the rest of what you say is great actually. got a good few things to consider. as far as i say brummie, i simply mean a person living in birmingham, regardless of class, or race. Defined more by geographical boundaries than social ones. since i am trying to instil more civic pride in its citizens, I have to included and appeal to everyone in the city. The multiculturalism is really vital, and the motto too is. Thanks for your help though, that was very useful!
prem1um	Ashamed? Yes and no. replied on: 1/23/2007 8:40:19 PM do you work for Marketing Birmingham per chance?
brummielass2006	Ashamed? replied on: 2/11/2007 7:58:06 PM No I don't work for them. This is not necessarily a live project either, we are simply putting together a proposal at the moment, but we'll be presenting it to the city council soon. We're trying to go against the grain and not go down the atypical routes, because quite frankly, the way Birmingham is promoted and branded is awful. Anyway, thanks for all the replies.
prem1um	Ashamed? replied on: 2/14/2007 10:23:29 AM Ah ok. Good for you and whoever you are compiling the proposal with. I used to work for Marketing Birmingham and found myself in absolute amazement at the way branding/promotional campaigns were run. I found myself defending their strategies on BiNS initially. Eventually it became apparent (and I have first hand experience) that the council workers/policy embedded in the company were the main factor in the negligence/failure in promoting our city. I hope it works out for you, best of luck!
Gravy Hole Rank: Oddie	Ashamed? replied on: 2/14/2007 1:54:10 PM From the Daily mail, yet another useless survey:- "It prides itself on its industrial heritage, its canals and, of course, the distinctive accent of its citizens. But Birmingham has just acquired a far less welcome claim to fame. The city has been voted the rudest in Britain after undercover researchers were sent in to test the politeness of passers-by. They measured the locals' politeness by dropping bags of shopping to see whether anyone would help pick them up and listening for whether shop assistants said 'please' and 'thank you'. Birmingham's politeness score of just 43 per cent was the lowest of the eight cities tested for the magazine Reader's Digest. Edinburgh was the second rudest city, scoring 48 per cent. Geordies, however, displayed far better manners. Newcastle came top of the table, scoring 77 per cent, followed by Liverpool on 70 per cent. Exeter was third with 63 per cent, followed by Cardiff (61 per cent), London (54 per cent) and Southampton (53 per cent). 'We British used to set great store by good manners,' said the magazine. 'From forming orderly queues to allowing others to get through doors before us, we thought that we were a cut above the rest of the world when it came to civil behaviour. 'Yet in recent years we've had a crisis of confidence.' Overall, the survey found that most over-60s behaved politely. However, fewer than half of shop assistants under the age of 30 said 'please' or 'thank you'. Dr Carl Chinn, a historian from Birmingham, described the survey as pointless last night. 'Birmingham has some extremely warm and friendly people, so to say they are the rudest simply is not true,' he said. 'This survey is nonsense and should be thrown in the bin.'
bhamsbollox	Ashamed? replied on: 7/1/2007 3:03:56 PM Could u guys be of some help and list some things i could do on a saturday in bham. Its the first time im coming
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