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prem1um	Birmingham Rock Venues: Help needed! posted on: 11/9/2007 5:24:10 PM Hi all... I'm due to take a rock music journalist around Birmingham for a brief tour this weekend and I wanted to ask you for your help in identifying buildings which have important musical connections i.e the Hummingbird, Barbarellas, Town Hall, The Foundry etc. Any gigs, experiences or anecdotes you can share with me would be most appreciated...I'm born and bred in Brum but am not so hot on the 60's and 70's music scene in the city... Any ideas? Thanks in advance!
falsedog Rank: Jasper This message was updated on 11/11/2007 5:27:53 PM by falsedog	Birmingham Rock Venues: Help needed! replied on: 11/10/2007 9:37:00 PM You should go to Mothers in Erdington for Floyd connection (Nick Mason was also born in Brum), Poplar Rd where Duran rehearsed and Broadcast live, Digbeth for UB40 studio and capsule HQ, Aston cemetery for Black Sab album shoot and also for Psychic TV / Godstar epiphany at ABC studio (GPO also lived in Brum in the 60s), various Dexy's, Joan Armatrading, Musical Youth, Traffic/Steve Winwood, ELO, Led Zep, Cozy Powell, Toyah, Wizzard, Pram, Jamelia, Fleetwood Mac, Napalm Death, Judas Preist, Jethro Tull stories & locations around the city but asking me to do yr homework the day before your idiot Observer music magazine mate turns up asking about the Ozzy Osbourne star is cutting it a bit fine. Maybe you can wiki some of the above names tonight, mark some venues on the A-Z, learn some bio facts, and make a decent go of it or maybe you'll just go to Carling Academy tomorrow morning, see which halfwit, camp metal bands are playing that week and there's your article. Then you can go to the Square fucking Peg Wetherspoons and make a few half guessed notes on current Birmingham bands like Editors and Guillemots which is why the twat from the paper came to the city in the first place. Additional: you can also see inside the old Tin Can club on Bradford Street, now that the lion's share of the building has been torn down.
Rowley-Russ Rank: Toyah	Birmingham Rock Venues: Help needed! replied on: 11/11/2007 6:37:24 AM Now that, I thought, was a touch unnecessary.
m8e Rank: Ozzy This message was updated on 11/12/2007 8:37:23 AM by m8e	Birmingham Rock Venues: Help needed! replied on: 11/11/2007 4:12:11 PM There was only one place you should have taken your rock journo friend to this weekend, and that was last night's fantastic Drop Beats Not Bombs extravaganza at the Custard Factory. These events just keep on getting better and better, and last night was really something special. Local drum & bass gods PCM were on absolutely transcendent form, blasting-out through a devastatingly powerful - yet crystal clear - soundsystem, and accompanied not only by superb, state-of-the art, high-tech psychedelic visuals, but also by a bevy of super-fit (in all senses), scantily-clad female dancers. ...Phwoar! And as if that wasn't enough, meanwhile over in the Medicine Bar, DJ Shitmat and the Wrong Music nutjobs were smashing the place to smithereens with their unbelievably brutal (but in a fun way), warp-speed gabba/breakcore mash-ups. Add to this a great friendly atmosphere, plus the fact that all the proceeds were going to the worthiest of right-on causes, and you have what amounts to a prime contender for the best gig of the year so far. Brummie nightlife at its world-beating best.
m8e Rank: Ozzy This message was updated on 11/15/2007 7:17:00 AM by m8e	Birmingham Rock Venues: Help needed! replied on: 11/12/2007 7:19:59 AM quote: Additional: you can also see inside the old Tin Can club on Bradford Street, now that the lion's share of the building has been torn down. Ah yes, the old Tin Can club. I believe Nik Bullen, founding member of Napalm Death, who sometimes posts on this site as "King of the Heath," used to organize some of the nights there - although "organize" hardly seems the appropriate word in view of the laisser-faire, druggy nonconformist nature of the place. A true TAZ, as Hakim Bey would have it (Temporary Autonomous Zone). Another somewhat nonconformist club was the Cedar Club on Constitution Hill (an Eddie Fewtrell establishment. See his just published biography "King of Clubs" for further info). I remember seeing Dexy's Midnight Runners in there not long after they'd had a number one hit with "Geno." The place was completely packed to capacity and sweltering hot, yet the band kept their donkey jackets on throughout the entire performance! Here are people who suffer for their art, I thought. I also remember going there one night with an Asian work colleague, only to find the place full of Nazi skinheads. Prudently, I suggested that we immediately get the hell out of there, but he just seemed to think that I was trying to get out of buying my round.
Gravy Hole Rank: Oddie This message was updated on 11/12/2007 5:07:55 PM by Gravy Hole	Birmingham Rock Venues: Help needed! replied on: 11/12/2007 4:40:14 PM This journalist. Don't leave him in your house alone or he'll be digging the dirt on you and rooting through your bedside cabinet. And you don't want him to find... well, you know... that THING and those pictures you keep in there. Make sure the cellar door stays padlocked too and keep him away from the compost heap. Remember, above all, DO NOT TRUST HIM!
prem1um	Birmingham Rock Venues: Help needed! replied on: 11/12/2007 5:01:33 PM Thank you m8e. Falsedog, you were doing so well until the vitriol found an exit hole. I can report it wasn't an 'idiot Observer music magazine mate' but a very well respected rock journalist from the other side of the world looking to learn about Birmingham's musical heritage, you big fat assumer. I hear there are jobs going at the Tourism Centre, you'd be perfect darling. It worked out in the end. I'm 26 and while I know about current venues, I had to ask for help somewhere on the older clubs. For info, we went to the sites of Mothers, The Cedars Club, Rum Runner, Top Rank Suite, Barbarellas, Bingley Hall, Jug of Ale, Hare and Hounds, The Foundry and I even chucked the Que Club in for a bit of 'that crazy electronic music that everyone in Leeds listens to...'.
Gravy Hole Rank: Oddie	Birmingham Rock Venues: Help needed! replied on: 11/12/2007 5:07:17 PM Thanks. But don't blame me when you're splashed all over the Cinncinatti Extraordinary Renditioner next week.
m8e Rank: Ozzy	Birmingham Rock Venues: Help needed! replied on: 11/13/2007 7:34:04 AM quote: and I even chucked the Que Club in for a bit of 'that crazy electronic music that everyone in Leeds listens to...'. And what was that, exactly? Leeds has never been a city I've associated with electronic music of any description, crazy or otherwise. Is there perhaps a gap in my musical knowledge here?
m8e Rank: Ozzy This message was updated on 11/13/2007 4:37:24 PM by m8e	Birmingham Rock Venues: Help needed! replied on: 11/13/2007 4:22:19 PM quote: quote: and I even chucked the Que Club in for a bit of 'that crazy electronic music that everyone in Leeds listens to...'. And what was that, exactly? Leeds has never been a city I've associated with electronic music of any description, crazy or otherwise. Is there perhaps a gap in my musical knowledge here? It's OK prem1um, forget about it. After a few minutes internet research, I'm now assuming that you must have been referring to what is known as "bleep & bass" music - a genre which I'd hitherto only ever associated with Sheffield, but which I've now discovered also has strong associations with Leeds. I suppose my ignorance of the northern electronic dance scene stems from the fact that for pretty much the whole of the 90s my attention was focused exclusively on London, where the music at the clubs and raves I used to go to was either of the technoshamanic goa/psy-trance variety, or London's very own 'avin it 'ard acid-techno. Anyway, I guess all of us have our blind-spots when it comes to knowing about all the myriad genres and sub-genres of modern music. Even Rowley-Russ.
prem1um	Birmingham Rock Venues: Help needed! replied on: 11/13/2007 5:44:14 PM Perhaps I should have explained that was a quote from said journalist after his trip to Leeds before the Birmingham one last weekend. Trying to explain the many different 'myriad genres and sub-genres of modern music' through my own ace experiences at Flashback, Atomic Jam, Breakthru, Urban Disturbance, Capsule, Spectrum, Accelerated Culture, Heducation etc to a guy who really loves his rock would have been pointless...
m8e Rank: Ozzy	Birmingham Rock Venues: Help needed! replied on: 11/15/2007 8:26:03 AM Ah yes, Accelerated Culture - what better name for nights of full-on fast and furious drum & bass? Rock music just seems so last century in comparison.
falsedog Rank: Jasper	Birmingham Rock Venues: Help needed! replied on: 11/15/2007 11:38:35 AM >>I hear there are jobs going at the Tourism Centre, you'd be perfect darling. I worked in tourist info for 3 years, also do city tours - I'm currently researching Pop Goes Birmingham tour It's from years of encountering poorly researched, half arsed or plain wrong articles about Birmingham - usually eminating from Birmingham - that meant you tasted that spleentang. It sounds like there's a tonne of stuff you could have gone into & I'd have happily have helped but sadly the clock beat us this time. Maybe next time? Did you go to the Tin Can Club? The Firebird? Cannonball? When you were at the Hare & Hounds did you visit the venue on York St where the Beatles played? All classic pop / jazz / rock venues your mate would have written about rather than lathe n bass or whatever Leeds is up to this week.
m8e Rank: Ozzy This message was updated on 11/17/2007 5:56:44 AM by m8e	Birmingham Rock Venues: Help needed! replied on: 11/16/2007 8:43:31 AM Another place your journo friend should have visited is Mick Kenney's legendary - at least among the type of people who read Terrorizer - Necrodeath studios, where Mistress, Anaal Nathrakh and various other extreme metal bands record. If Birmingham's venerable metal tradition can be said to live-on anywhere, then surely Necrodeath is the place.
Rowley-Russ Rank: Toyah	* Wakes up * replied on: 11/19/2007 3:44:59 PM Who dat call my name?
m8e Rank: Ozzy	* Wakes up * replied on: 11/25/2007 6:10:58 AM quote: Who dat call my name? Oh, right..... I was merely alluding to the fact that, even though you do seem to have just about the most comprehensive knowledge of contemporary music out of anyone I've ever met, there are still inevitably going to be various genres/sub-genres of which even you know nothing. I mean, I bet you know absolutely bugger-all about such extreme electronic genres as splittercore/extratone, for instance (very big in what was formerly East Germany, apparently). But there agian, I suppose this begs the question as to whether what you don't know about contemporary music is really worth knowing. Probably not.
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