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peakyblinder
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Why change a bad thing?
replied on: 5/29/2003 12:39:46 PM The National Curriculum at Key Stage 1 has a dialect variation component built into it which encourages pupils to “reflect on how their speech changes in more formal situations” and to “take account of different listeners [for example, adapting what they say when speaking to people they do not know].” At Key Stage 2, pupils are encouraged to think about how language varies according to “context and purpose, between standard and dialect forms, and between written and spoken forms,” and Key Stages 3 and 4 include the following components: a) the importance of standard English as the language of public communication nationally and often internationally b) current influences on spoken and written language c) attitudes to language use d) the differences between speech and writing e) the vocabulary and grammar of standard English and dialectal variation f) the development of English, including changes over time, borrowings from other languages, origins of words, and the impact of electronic communication on written language. These quotes are all from the National Curriculum website (2003), but I should know really because I am an English Language teacher. You twat. PS. You're not Jeremy Clarkson by any chance, are you? |
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Deckster
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Why change a bad thing?
replied on: 5/29/2003 1:46:56 PM Well, I'll bow to your knowledge of the National Curriculum because I'm not an English teacher and really can't be arsed to find out. I earn more a good deal more than English Teachers so I'm able to absorb and deal with the ignominy. I actually had you down as a P.E. teacher by the way. Surely even English Teachers can't actually be as stupid as you? You certainly hide your mastery of prose well. Perhaps you owe your elevated position to being able to copy from other documents. During which particular key stage do you let you let your students in on the secret? And tell me - does the National Curriculum contain a component that helps formulate a reasoned argument? Or are you happy for your pupils to use the old formulaic approach and call anyone with an alternate opinion a "twat". Example: Q. Hitler - good guy or bad guy? Discuss A. 'itler - yam's a bit of a twat! Well done little Johnny - top marks. Your class must a breeze! At least I'm not a Brummie twat. Are you Carl Chinn? |
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peakyblinder
old hand Rank: Chinny |
Why change a bad thing?
replied on: 5/29/2003 7:06:58 PM Re: "I'm not an English teacher and really can't be arsed to find out," can't be arsed to have an informed opinion or construct a reasoned argument for that matter either. Re: "I earn more a good deal more than English Teachers," a sketch from the Harry Enfield Show springs to mind. Considerably richer than me, are you? Re: "You certainly hide your mastery of prose well." Quote: "I earn more a good deal more," "During which particular key stage do you let you let," "Your class must a breeze." Ditto. It sounds as if English isn't your first language. Would you like lessons? I charge £25 per hour for beginners, which probably makes me considerably richer than yow! Re: "Are you happy for your pupils to use the old formulaic approach and call anyone with an alternate opinion a "twat". No, but as you say this is a 'fun' site and it makes me laugh. Re: "At least I'm not a Brummie twat." Well, what sort of a twat are you then? |
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Deckster
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Why change a bad thing?
replied on: 5/30/2003 9:14:38 AM Ahh - my little ray of Brummie sunshine! You better watch out Peaks - your last post started showing signs of a sense of humour! Did you get one of your students to help out? The bit about "an informed opinion" made me laugh for a start. Until now your petty small-minded tedious diatribes throughout the site completley singled you out as the little person who just didn't really 'get it'. And then, of course, you'd punctuate one of them with outright abuse to ensure the impression you give is one of total Brummie gobshite. I can rest assured in the knowledge that Birmingham will forever remain the arse-end of the universe as long as you're in it. "£25 per hour" - to spend time in your company - now that is funny. |
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peakyblinder
old hand Rank: Chinny |
Why change a bad thing?
replied on: 5/30/2003 10:36:55 AM Strange. What makes you think I'm a Brummie? Non-Brummies can love Brum too, you know. Oh, and completely is C-O-M-P-L-E-T-E-L-Y, by the way. My offer still stands. |
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Deckster
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Why change a bad thing?
replied on: 5/30/2003 11:06:20 AM I think you're a Brummie because your attitude and opinions are the antithesis of what I imagine as 'all the worst' of the Brummie character. Brummie is a state of mind - not just a silly grating accent. I don't believe for a second that non-Brummies love Birmingham by the way. Not unless, like a recently dis-infected shit-house, they're clean 'round the bend. And before you go off on one let me state that I work with many lovely generous kind-hearted intelligent good humoured Brummies whose company I love. It's just that I view you as a sick caricature I suppose. I enjoy you in the same way I enjoy watching wildlife programmes. I can switch the TV off and I'm glad the animals are out there but this is as close as I ever actually want to get to them/you. Thanks for the spelling lesson - I reckon you earn 5 piffling, petty Brum-points for that and it didn't even cost me £25. |
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coolcato
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Why change a bad thing?
replied on: 5/31/2003 4:29:55 PM Deckster, get a life. |
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peakyblinder
old hand Rank: Chinny |
Why change a bad thing?
replied on: 5/31/2003 7:19:02 PM I think the only way to settle this is man-to-man. You name the time and place. (I apologise if you're a bird.) |
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peakyblinder
old hand Rank: Chinny |
Why change a bad thing?
replied on: 5/31/2003 9:13:08 PM Hold on a minute. Re: "I think you're a Brummie because your attitude and opinions are the antithesis of what I imagine as 'all the worst' of the Brummie character." You don't know what 'antithesis' means, do you? The antithesis of something is the direct opposite of it, so you think that my attitude and opinions are the best rather than the worst of the Brummie character. Cheers, I didn't know you cared! (I think the word you were looking for is 'epitome', but I suppose it's all Greek to your tiny mind, isn't it?) Anyway, you still deserve a good kicking. Oi, Jon Bounds/Bounder - is there any way we can set up a fight and get some decent publicity for it. We'll really show the city of culture judges that Birmingham is not shit when a pro-Brummie kicks seven shades of it out of this anti-Brummie twat. |
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Deckster
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Why change a bad thing?
replied on: 6/2/2003 9:36:28 AM And you teach children? For real? And you're sure you're not a P.E. teacher? |
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peakyblinder
old hand Rank: Chinny |
Why change a bad thing?
replied on: 6/2/2003 10:06:14 AM I'll learn ya. |
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Barcrest
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Why change a bad thing?
replied on: 6/2/2003 10:28:37 AM Dekster is full of crap. Firstly the specials song "Ghost Town" is about the death of ska, not the explosion of ska out of coventry. This is why it sings of all the clubs closing down, and too much fighting on the dance floor. So as was stated it is calling coventry a ghost town, which it is. I went there for a beer once and we got as far as The Rocket pub and ended up going back into brum with a load of locals who couldn't believe we had even bothered to go there... Then there is the phrase "Sent to coventry.." When you don't want to talk to somebody any more. Lets face it, coventry never makes the news, it hasn't even got a premiership football team, we've got 2 and even wolverhampton which you treat with the same contempt has now. |
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Deckster
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Why change a bad thing?
replied on: 6/2/2003 11:19:20 AM The song 'Ghost Town' was indeed about Coventry becoming crap - after a year or so of 'two-tone' when it wasn't "an entirley embarressing place to come from". So . . . Birmingham's better than Coventry because it's got two Premier League Football Clubs. Yeah OK - point conceded. At what point did you think I was claiming Coventry as better than Birmingham? Perhaps the website should be renamed "Birmingham - at least its not Coventry". Far more believable than "Birmingham - It's not shit". ps. don't worry Peaks - I haven't gone away. I'll get back to you. |
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peakyblinder
old hand Rank: Chinny |
Why change a bad thing?
replied on: 6/3/2003 5:12:58 PM I'm still waiting. Give us a time and a place and I'm gonna whup your lily-white ass, Covo-c__t. |
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Deckster
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Why change a bad thing?
replied on: 6/3/2003 6:09:53 PM Sorry for the delay but I've been thinking Peaks. I know 'thinking' isn't your strong suit but try to follow the logistics through of what you're suggesting. For instance, the open nature of this website, the legality, the interest from other mad tossers . . . I'm afraid I can't see a way to let a mad tosser like you into my life in a way that I can get you back out of my life afterwards. The fact that I'd be sinking to your level and I don't care if you live or die helps of course. But then, just being you - locked up in your sad little existence must be hell. Marvellous! So sorry mate - stay in Birmingham - and, if it's true you're a teacher, take it out on your students. The power trip will do you good and hopefully one of them will twat you. By the way, your suggestion that you use a fight to create publicity on a website promoting Birmingham's bid to become the European City of Culture (however tongue in cheek) is really funny - bet you never meant it to be though. |
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