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How to recognise an indian by their surname?
replied on: 6/24/2003 2:32:04 AM

hi....

Thank you so much guys for the info !

I really appreciate it...


/jaan
shalynn




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How to recognise an indian by their surname?
replied on: 6/24/2003 4:03:19 AM


hi ppl,

How about Zinta and Oberoi.? Is it punjabi? I coudnt find in shaadionline..


/jaan

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replied on: 6/24/2003 8:45:58 PM

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Yes Kishi, I have met many people from the West Indies and Guyana with names like the ones you mention. And while they are easily recognizable as being Indian in origin, usually when I see some of those I immediately think "West Indies". I suspect that that those particular variations must have had to do with the particular history of how the people ended up in those former British Colonies and how they (or others) decided on what the last name would be. It reminds me of the discussion we had earlier about the last name "Khan" in India.

And did you forget Naipaul? What do you think of him by the way (I know he is from Trinidad rather than from Jamaica).


Guyana and Suriname are both West Indian countries. As well as Belize. All these countries have a significant East Indian population. Guyana's is 51%, Suriname 37%, and Belize 5%.

Indo-Guyanese are very self-concious. They love their culture and religion and music. I can spot one without even meeting them, as well as spotting an Indo-Trinidadian. This trend of Ram's must stem from where the indentured immigrants came from. I know my family came from Tamil Nadu, but since Jamaica's East Indian population is a minority (90,000 East Indians out of 2.6 million Jamaicans) many of them have lost the culture, and converted to Christianity, and anglicized their last name. My surname is Scottish instead of East Indian.

238,000 Indians came from Bihar, Uttar Pradesh, and Kolkatta to British Guiana from 1838 to 1917, so this might give some explanations.

Agapeasha, your Mum must be gifted! But not gifted like me! Guyanese are like family to me: I know one when I see one!
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How about Zinta and Oberoi.? Is it punjabi?


I think Zinta is an unusual surname, since the Hindustan Times once went off on a rambling speculation about where Preity was from, saying that no one could figure it out. Happily, they interviewed her and determined she was from Himachal Pradesh -- the most gorgeous place I've ever seen.

Oberoi, I've got no clue...
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This message was updated on 6/24/2003 11:53:30 PM by MeenaKumari

How to recognise an indian by their surname?
replied on: 6/24/2003 11:52:33 PM

I read somewhere that Preity is from Simla.

I'll ask my dad about Oberoi...still haven't had a chance to talk to him about this.
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How to recognise an indian by their surname?
replied on: 6/29/2003 6:23:46 PM

I am working on a book and I need to know about higher caste Gujarati surnames. Living in Chicago, I obviously know a lot of Patels, but what other Gujarati surnames are out there and how do they compare to the Patel caste (which ones are higher, lower)?
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replied on: 7/20/2003 10:59:03 PM

Hi,

I was wondering do you have any info on the Rambaram family name. My grandmother says her family was from a town outside of Bombay that they we're religious leaders as well. They migrated to Jamaica in the early 1900's. Doing some family research.
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This message was updated on 7/23/2003 10:35:00 AM by ~Screen Queen~

Rai's Roots
replied on: 7/23/2003 10:30:58 AM



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Aishwarya Rai, i read from her interview that she's from Shetty community. What is that??? Is it the culture or race ? Then what is her race Gujurati, Punjabi or what???


I posted the following info about Aish's origins in another thread but am transferring it here as it seems more appropriate. There is great confusion surrounding Rai's roots mostly because of all the sub-divisions of region/religion she originates from, but I hope the following helps:




RAI'S REGIONAL ROOTS


In the southern part of India there is a state called 'Karnataka'. In Karnataka there is a region called 'Konkan' of which 'Coorg' is a sub-region. Within the Konkan/Coorg region there's a city called 'Mangalore'. Aishwarya's family originate from the South Indian state of Karnataka, hailing from the city of Mangalore in the Konkan/Coorg region. Thus, they are known as either: ' Konkani' which is the general term or if you wanna get region-specific, then 'Coorgi', just as people from the Punjab are known as 'Punjabi' or those from Gujarat are known as 'Gujarati'.


The official language of that region is 'Kannada', but many speak a dialect called 'Tulu'. Aishwarya's mother tongue is Tulu, as is Shilpa and Sunil Shetty's. Incidentally, Aish plays a 'Coorgi' girl in Sameer Karnik's upcoming 'Kyon...Ho Gaya Na?' opposite the Oberoi boy.




RAI'S RELIGIOUS ROOTS


In the Hindu religion there are four main castes:

1. Brahmin

2. Kshtriya

3. Vaishya

4. Shudhra



Aishwarya's family belong to the 'Bunt' community which is a sub-caste of 'Kshtriya (2). Many Bunts are called Shetty. Shilpa and Sunil Shetty both hail from the same 'Bunt' community as Aishwarya.


Thus, though she lives in and was brought up in Mumbai, Aish is originally a Tulu speaking South Indian Mangalorean Konkani/Coorgi, hailing from the state of Karnataka and belonging to the Bunt community of the Kshtriya caste. (phew--- what a mouthfull!)

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How to recognise an indian by their surname?
replied on: 8/6/2003 7:50:04 AM

usually u can tell an indian when u see one. except for most indians, other people get confused when they see pakistanis, indians, and sri lankans. but i guess its the way we are made. lol to tell each other apart.

pakistanis and indians often, in fact very often have the same last names. after all they were one country before.

i didnt read the whole post so i dont kno if this was mentioned before
luked6




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How to recognise an indian by their surname?
replied on: 11/23/2003 12:54:29 PM

Does anybody know the origin of the surname, Phadke?
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How to recognise an indian by their surname?
replied on: 11/26/2003 3:18:16 PM

based on looks (or actually what i think it should sound like), i think phadke is a marathi name...but that's just a guess.
shalynn




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I think Preity Zinta is Punjabi.. Correct me if i was wrong and she comes from a rich family..


Some of my friends said Shah surname is Gujarati such as Satish Shah & Bharat Shah ( not to incl. Patel)
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How to recognise an indian by their surname?
replied on: 12/7/2003 5:15:44 PM

Shah, Patel and Amin are all Gujurati surnmames. I myself am a Patel...

A lot of my Gujurati friends have the surnames of Kakkad, Vaghela and Mandora. So there you have a few more. But most Gujurati people I know are Patels..
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replied on: 12/8/2003 1:00:25 AM

I know a very common name for Gujurati people is Mistry. There's also Rathod, Rawal, Pathak and Mehta.

I'm a Maharaj and from Trinidad. It's a common name but there are spelling variations. Mostly the people there come from Uttar Pradesh and there are alot of Ram--- names. But I think that Maharaj is also a common name for indians from South Africa and places like New Zealand.


Kishi

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How to recognise an indian by their surname?
replied on: 12/9/2003 8:25:07 PM

Hey, your'e from Trinidad? Great! I'm glad another West Indian is on the forum. I gettin' ready to whine!

One problem I've had with Indo-Trinidadians, is ignorance and prejudice. I'm from Jamaica, and my mum is East Indian, but my father is Black. Whenever I go to West Indian shows, or my local temple, I get stares and offensive comments.

Also, I know a Trinidadian when I see one. Especially the teenagers, most are built small, with dark brown skin, long, bushy, wavy hair, majority of the time with red dye.
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