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Keaggan Rogue Jedi Knight Quote \| Reply \|	Why do you feel that Role Playing is esential ? posted on: 4/3/2001 2:26:04 AM I direct this to all of you role players out there. Why do you feel that role playing is essential to SWG? Why is it a live or die situation? Can't I just be a player? Why must I always play my character? Do you feel that SWG will fall apart? I have played other MMORPGs and can say right now for a fact that the RPers will be the minority. I like to RP and love being with other RPers. Some ,however, take it too by getting upset at those who do not RP. Why do you feel it is so vital to SWG? Keaggan, Rogue Jedi Knight
Blade Überflogger Quote \| Reply \|	alright Keaggan.... replied on: 4/3/2001 8:03:21 AM this post is really off-topic for this forum (supposed to actually BE role playing--not discuss it as a playstyle), but I'm going to leave it up to see if you get some answers. I could give you mine, but I'll wait for others to share their perspectives as they see fit first.
ShadowCat Resident Hottie Quote \| Reply \|	It's not a live or die situation. replied on: 4/3/2001 1:57:44 PM I will admit it, however, that I should belong to Roleplayers Anonymous. "Hi, my name is Jenn, and I'm a Roleplayer." "Hi, Jenn!" I certainly can slip out of character and just play the game to play, BUT I prefer not to. I suppose it has to do with the escapism that games like this present. For a short time I live a virtual life in a different virtual world. My real life problems are not my characters problems and that's fine by me. If roleplaying gets my mind off of the day to day grind than I'm all for it. But that's just me. Now, as for why it seems most RPers turn thier noses up at people who don't RP it's because we're essentially putting up a shield. Why? When a non-RPer goes out of his/her way to disrupt/annoy/insult a group of RPers as they RP it speaks badly of those who don't. Not that everyone is like that, it's just like you can have 100 nice customers in a day and have that one bad customer come along and make you think all customers are @$$ holes. We RPers are spoiled. When we do come across a nice non-RPer and start to hope that this person might RP with them only to have the person decide it isn't his cup of tea we get pissy faced. Why is that? Because, just like spoiled children, we get upset when somebody doesn't want to play us the way WE want to play. But just like not every non-RPer is a PK @$$wipe, not every RPer is a Roleplaying Elitist bent on not speaking to anyone who doesn't adress him/her with a "hail" (ala UO). Negative aspects of styles of play tend to set the stereotypes of people in those catagories, but just like real life stereotypes hold just about as much truth. As for why I think RPing is essencial? If it wasn't then what would the point be to Trandoshans and Wookiees having a long time rivalry? What would the point be to having political skills? Why bother with any kind of confrontations at all? If you argue that it's for PvP reasons then go and play a Quake Deathmatch, you'll get about as much depth if there wasn't some imagined anamosity going on. Nutz, and I've rambled on so long I now have to go to work. No one has ever accused me of NOT being long winded! Heh! I'll say more when I get back from the daily grind. TLC Cat
Keaggan Rogue Jedi Knight Quote \| Reply \|	Thank you Cat replied on: 4/5/2001 2:06:50 AM I agree that you just described what goes on inside a typical RPer. I know that not all are like this for I knew some in UO. Thank you for replying to my post for I was worried that Blade would delete it :p I personaly play a half and half type character. I play myself in what ever game I am playing. Whether it be a sword swinging hero or a laser toating alien I play that character from the stand point as what would "I" do in their shoes. In SWG I will be playing a Twi'lek Rogue Jedi Knight. I want to play rogue because I am very headstrong some times and like doing things my way, which may rub the other in game Jedi the wrong way. But hey I plan on destorying the Sith, Dark Jedi and Empire too...just on my own terms and in my own way :p Keaggan, Rogue Jedi Knight ps Thanks Blade for not deleting this post. Sorry I did not know I was not suppossed to put it here
Nizet_Vada Quote \| Reply \|	I will say this.. replied on: 4/5/2001 12:45:56 PM .. for the first few weeks of play I will more than likely be doing as you normaly do. Play half and half, but only because I'll be trying to figure out the game mechanics and such and that's a hard thing to do "in character". Once I do, however, I will more than likely slip into my little role and play to my hearts content. I'm silly, but that's just me. Nizet Vada--underwater wookie lifeguard engineer in training
DarthWicket Number 2 Quote \| Reply \|	RP? I RP myself... replied on: 5/20/2001 2:02:38 AM In real life i am very competative person. This transfers over to my love of PVP. When i played UO i would roleplay myself in the game. Instead of being some fool saying "Hail, how goeth thy journeys" I RPed a protector and layer of the smackth down. I was a Guild enforcer for a 150 member guild. As Guild Enforcer/Pvp Trainer i could "RP" by teaching my guild members the arts of war and how to survive it. I actually went red because my guildmates would request assistance and sometimes vengance agaist PK or jerks. Now in the worlf of UO not ever PK is red, many are blue pks. And being the enforcer i killed many blue pks and went red in the process. Now i never went statloss (i would then hang out with guild mates and peeps would attack me and i would slay them). Some people say that PKs or PVPers cant roleplay but hey i spent a my whole 40 hours (about a month) at bucs den working off my red with the blood of those who dared challenge me. I was a red lord (back when 7xers where gods and i could single handedly battle 4 people at one time and win!) RPed being the bad ass killer on the block. So good at "Rping" this role that the local thieves that frequented bucs den alot stoped steal from me out of a sign of respect. Instead they would egg people into fighting me so they could loot the my victims! Also they would steal from my opponents while i fought them! Such was the respect that my character "Lord SirRiot" garnered. But as nerfing rampaged througout UO and trammel was created all sence of RP went out the window. Gone was the need to politely talk to people or have any mind for etiquite. Why does on have to act nice when there is no possible recourse to be inflicted by others. I am a firm believer that the ability to "Force" a person to act a certain way because i can kill them leads to a more civilized land. But also there has to be a recourse to prevent grief players. Suchs is the quandry that i solved in the other board under my PVP topic called "PKing, Pvp & dealing with newbies," go check it out
Nizet_Vada Quote \| Reply \|	SirRiot? replied on: 5/21/2001 2:15:30 PM What shard did you used to play on?
DarthWicket Number 2 Quote \| Reply \|	Napa replied on: 5/21/2001 2:48:24 PM ...
Nizet_Vada Quote \| Reply \|	Ah, okay... replied on: 5/21/2001 6:37:38 PM ... if you were going to say Great Lakes I woulda had to say something. A looong while back one of my characters was hangin' about Buc's Den stealing from NPCs (before they nerfed it) she got spotted, went gray, and some guy Sir something-or-other came up and thwacked me good. Guy didn't say a word, just twack! twack! twack! "You are dead." NEway, it just rang some bells. If it was you than I'd have to point my finger, say "It was you!" then give you a rasberry, get all huffy with ya then forgive you in the next message. Nizet Vada -- Weaponsmith in training
DarthWicket Number 2 Quote \| Reply \|	hehe replied on: 5/22/2001 12:49:46 AM one thing i did hate about UO was people poping my traped pouches! grr cant kill them for that without a taking a count.
Aki Quote \| Reply \|	Back to Keaggan's original question replied on: 5/23/2001 5:23:38 AM I think ShadowCat makes a good point here, but I've a different perspective (on the side a RPers). I think it was in the official FAQ that I read (something like) "we will defintiely create an environment conducive to role-playing, but it won't be mandatory". The reason they would bother to make the environment conducive to RPing is because it's more fun. In general, playing the game and RPing is more fun than simply playing the game. I'm not sure that everyone (read: gamers) would agree here, but it would seem the guys making SWG would agree since they're bothering to make the environment "conducive to roleplaying". Keaggan: "Why is role playing essential?" Aki: "Because role playing is more fun." To be simplistic. Now taking that into consideration, you might begin to understand why folks who RP get angry when other players don't. They would percieve the non-RP players as taking some of the fun out of the game by not RPing. I find it unfortunate that you feel it's a certainty that role players will be the minority. Think of all the fun the majority will be missing out on. <insert emoticon here> Aki
Keaggan Rogue Jedi Knight Quote \| Reply \|	To RP or not to RP... replied on: 5/26/2001 4:14:13 AM I popped this question when the board first was opening to help out. I have since then not come back here till now. I am glad I did and grateful that Blade did not delete it when he said he might have. To Aki response I would like to say that RPing is a very fun form of escapism. I love playing PnP RPGs with friends and it adds a lot of atmosphere to MMORPGs however, I believe becoming angry or upset with people who do not RP as hard core as other is just ridiculous. I played myself as I always do. I can't spend 120+ hours a month (back when I had time to do that) RPing something that is not me. Now I have RPed some exotic characters during very different PnP RPGs, but in MMORPGs I need to RP a character very close to whom I really am. Keaggan, Rogue Jedi Knight
DarthWicket Number 2 Quote \| Reply \|	this is like me replied on: 5/26/2001 12:29:55 PM "but in MMORPGs I need to RP a character very close to whom I really am." Keaggan, Rogue Jedi Knight i.e. Special K I live to playmyself also: a competive person who likes to test himself agaist the skills of others (i paintball so im not just a computer jockey). In SWG since i have official given up on being a dark jedi, i have decieded to become a Admiral in the Imperial Navy. No lightsabers then fine, ill whoop with my ISD. I dont know why i like to root for the bad guys (im a nice guy in RL), but i cant help it. I rooted for the german guy in "NME at the gates" and in Pearl Harbor (which is freaking too long with love crap) i was like "damn those japanese rock".
Graedo_Lee You Gotta Be Good Like Me Quote \| Reply \|	Re: Why do you feel that Role Playing is esential ? replied on: 1/2/2002 7:50:39 AM Role playins is always fun but it isn't essencial. I'll be playing as Graedo Lee but i'll be playing as him as if he was me. And as for getting pissed if someone won't role play i won't it's up to them. We Jedi are tollerant people ah.
Captain_XplOrOrOr Ship Pilot/Tech Quote \| Reply \|	Re: Why do you feel that Role Playing is esential ? replied on: 1/16/2002 5:59:44 PM I'm new to MMORPG's. I've only seriously been into the internet for 1 1/2 years. And played my first mmorpg in Aug 2001, roughly 6 months ago LOL. I'm nice and well mannered in real life. So when I meet other players in game, and they are RPing and I'm not, I just politely tell them I'm not interested. Or ... I just don't say anything and ignore them. (heheh). But I like trying new things. So I have been treading the RPing waters a bit. RPing is ok. But I am glad the SWG DEV's have not made it essential. I don't feel it is, or should be. It should just be one of many playstyle choices. IMHO any game that has choices is a better game. The more choices the better. Since a game like SWG is trying to have choices, it will have more types of players playing. Because of this, it may even get different types of players to try other playstyles they don't like - like RPing.
LadyCasey Quote \| Reply \|	Re: Why do you feel that Role Playing is esential ? replied on: 12/7/2002 12:54:29 PM I always get a kick out of people who practiced pking in UO saying they were not role playing. I would ask... "does this mean that you are a serial killer in real life?" My 'real life' is somewhat grey. Not that it is awful, but it is not filled with swashbuckling heroism much of the time. When I log into a game I would like to be a damsel in distress, or a strong amazon who can take on a dragon, etc. You do not get to do that in real life.
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