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TuNNel-Rat

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Tactics: Grenades[No Sight]
posted on: 11/19/2003 11:47:08 PM

as is the case on the 2ndForRec [Marines] server, should all servers force players to use grenades w-out the advantage of a target in your sights. AGREE/DISAGREE & WHY???

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necessary skill builder	5 / 15%

sure, good challenge	14 / 41%

too hard	0 / 0

unrealistic	5 / 15%

realistic	5 / 15%

uncertain	3 / 9%

a MUST for all servers	1 / 3%

only on modded servers	1 / 3%

only on stock servers	0 / 0

game has too many mods already	0 / 0

TuNNel-Rat

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This message was updated on 11/19/2003 11:58:08 PM by TuNNel-Rat

Tactics: Grenades[No Sight]
replied on: 11/19/2003 11:57:05 PM

SURE
personally, i dont know if {EF} will adopt this, but i thought it was a cool addition to the game. @ 1st, i was like holy crap, what the hell am i gonna do?

-but then i realized that this will not only dvlp player tactics, but teach the individual client/clan member to be more conservative with their weapons

-teach individuals to appreciate the value of their limited inventory (esp on RB + OBJ maps).

-possibly help discipline the soldier, and dvlp situational awareness, or at the very least, force them to refine their tactics + strategies, and hopefully on the side, encourrage and dvlp an appreciation for teamwork.

good display of innovation + leadership Marines

Hooya!

Grego
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Tactics: Grenades[No Sight]
replied on: 11/20/2003 3:05:09 AM

i know i toss a few around ONLY if i know that the enemy was in that area, seeing a fellow player fall i would toss one near the area. I hate the german nades because they don't roll like the allied ones..

STROKER
[NavySEALs] Commanding Officer, Commander
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Tactics: Grenades[No Sight]
replied on: 11/20/2003 6:29:51 AM

When you throw a baseball,you're using your eyes as sights to get the ball in the strike zone. No different with a 'nade. Not like the 'nade flies like a bullet.It still has an arc and you have to be aware of distance as well as obstructions in front of you. Besides, ya need sights for those fancy bank shots.

V
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Tactics: Grenades[No Sight]
replied on: 11/20/2003 6:40:29 AM

I agree with TuNNel Rat.Good skill to learn,and have.I have on many occasions tagged many a players by just throwing the nade in the general direction,and them walking /running blindly towards the nade.Also if the player does realize there a nade beside them ,it's usually to late to run away.

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Tactics: Grenades[No Sight]
replied on: 11/20/2003 9:15:29 AM

ya'll all nade noobs...lol stick with your guns and you'll never care or worry about the nade issue....;-)

[LMS]Monkey
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Tactics: Grenades[No Sight]
replied on: 11/20/2003 9:21:56 AM

I like the idea, we tried it once before and everyone had a FIT lol but if you are going for realistic then i think they should be removed. We recently removed the open sites from the sniper rifles so people who want a sniper rifle HAVE to use it as a sniper.. in close combat situations use a pistol. other wise whats the point in having rifles?? when you can get one with a scope!

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Tactics: Grenades[No Sight]
replied on: 11/20/2003 9:38:00 AM

useing your nades blindly to clear out a area is a real war tactic .. Choosing how to use your sniper rifle and useing what scope etc.is up to the player every sniper is differant and speacial in there own way ..

Jessica
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Tactics: Grenades[No Sight]
replied on: 11/20/2003 10:06:41 AM

Hoch, using nades blindly is NOT a real tactic taught to soldiers. Using grenades with a good idea that the enemy is in a certain place is.

The last time I played on the 2ndForceRecon server, on the map Algiers, in the place at the centrally located house (the alamo), there was a never ending box of grenades. They raced for the that room when the game started and just threw nades every few seconds into the alleyways. I haven't been back on their server for a long time, it may have changed. But as soldier, especially in combat, you use the nades when you have to, not just willy nilly. They are a valuable weapon and a dangerous weapon to the enemy and friendly forces alike. I have yet to see an Infantryman issued more than a couple of grenades. Maybe on a special bunker clearing mission. So I have to agree with Krazy, to a certain extent, your primary weapon is your rifle, the nades are special purpose weapons. If you have a habit of nading everything blindly it's not a good idea to be on your team.

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This message was updated on 11/20/2003 10:37:56 AM by yakuza

Tactics: Grenades[No Sight]
replied on: 11/20/2003 10:37:28 AM

yeah jess is right , like the other time when their clan and our were challenging(i wasnt there) but i heard about a nade fiesta in brest....dammnnn nades are fine but i heard too that in us u need to ask for permission to trow nades, if u just throw nades like that its no more fun u just walk and receive a nade in ur face...its not really funny...in our server we did a rule about that kind of stuff, abusive usage of nades can get u banned,like randoms...some peep just trow nades only to ((clear a area,yea right...) its fine to clear an area when u go in it but plz...anyway what i am saying we dont authorize about randoms in our server, ive been killed many times by my own team cause of these damn things

g-slinger
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Tactics: Grenades[No Sight]
replied on: 11/20/2003 4:41:05 PM

Well yea i do agree that it does polish your skills not to have the sight thing, it's good practice
u cant just throw nades and hope somebody is behind that wall or something, its just stupid

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Tactics: Grenades[No Sight]
replied on: 11/20/2003 4:43:15 PM

Well said Jess, in reference to spamming nades...

There are far too many nade noobs out there and the farther away they are from me, the better.

[LMS]Hempy

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Tactics: Grenades[No Sight]
replied on: 11/20/2003 10:35:24 PM

While I haven't played on any server that uses that restriction, I feel as if that's exactly what it would be...a restriction.

I treat the grenade like my friend. It helps me achieve my given goals, as well as protecting me in a tight situation. I'm by no means a fan of 'nade spamming, so please don't include me in that particular group.

I can think of a couple of situations that require a good room sweep with a 'nade to avoid the inevitable a** kickin.

But that's just my 2 cents.

[2ndForRcn]Schecky
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Tactics: Grenades[No Sight]
replied on: 11/22/2003 12:29:33 AM

Well as far as the no sights go, I think it's just something different. Also, we try for realism in 2nd Force, so seeing as grenades don't have sights...well,you know what I'm saying.

As far as our "neverending" box of nades on algiers, I do believe we need to get rid of it. I agree with jessica in that area. Lol, even though I've been known to use a few...hehe.

Nice website you have here, good setup and idea!!

Later all. See ya on the battlefield.

[2ndForRcn]Schecky

[LMS]Phantom

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Tactics: Grenades[No Sight]
replied on: 11/22/2003 11:15:21 PM

u know what...we should just get rid of all sites completly...yeah..that way u really have to aim...but...that would be pretty hard...although...if u mastered that...then you would be very good

but yeah...either way is fine with me..no site or not on nades..i hardly use them and if i do...i ussually chuck them pretty far away...or down a hall... and for the whole random nading thing...alls you need to do is look on ur little compass...and if there is no one in the direction you are gonna throw the nade...then go ahead and throw it....might kill a few enemys if your lucky

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Tactics: Grenades[No Sight]
replied on: 11/24/2003 7:35:17 PM

Nades are part of war. This is a war game. Get used to it and stop *****in. This is why you only get two or three nades to keep with the whole realism. I know it sucks when a nade flys around the corner and stops at your feet, but what can you do. It's part of the game. Remember if they can nade you you can nade them so next time you're alive toss one hard around that corner, then laugh as you look over their dead body. MUAHAHAHAH

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