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IngaFelis	About this replied on: 8/3/2004 3:37:23 AM As free woman, I don't care to see the sashay and smile, although many slaves have learned to be graceful and funny in service to free women. I have often asked for a story or song or poem from a slave offering service. Most times, I am told the slave doesn't know any stories or songs, and can she just get me a glass of wine? Interactive conversation - or even just telling jokes - is so much more useful and pleasing than the same old beer-fetching schtick. I know slaves can carry on very fun conversations, but most save it for private messages, because they aren't sure it will be seen as respectful and slave-like to simply chat. The best way to liven up a dull chat room is conversation. And isn't that what we all want?
Librarian	Try something new replied on: 10/26/2003 9:49:48 PM "Good" slaves are often labeled as such because they routinely make the rounds offering service, and "bad" slaves might garner that label (among many other reasons i agree) for not offering service consistently. And yet, the free are - in general - bored to tears with 'serves'. Right? You've already seen the routine a thousand times - "pick a vessel, polish it up, sashay and smile" Since we know the slaves will still be "offering service" - it's been beaten into their heads enough for years that it's the thing to do - how about commanding them to do something you would be interested in actually watching? Or even interested in participating in? Is there something going on in your online Gorean life that the slave could be useful with? Carry a message to someone in another part of the city? Check with the merchant to see if the supplies needed for your caste work have arrived? Go to the market and find out what the peasants are charging for verr? And how much the butcher charges for turning it into a roast?
Librarian	The shift of mindset replied on: 10/26/2003 9:31:08 PM The shift of mindset that i am referring to, centers on the concept of "offering service" and the collective online Gorean expectation to it and reaction when it does not occur. Those of us of online Gor that are free are generally offended or annoyed when a girl does not "offer service". As a first girl, and later that dreaded Kajira Coordinator ~L~, i would get whispers from various free about how this one didn't offer service, or that one offered service to Fred before she offered service to me. There are heated discussions about "service" on various boards from time to time - lousy slaves not offering. ~coughing as my eyes twinkle~ Somehow, i just cannot see Samos, or Marlenus or Rask or even mishapen Hup the Fool getting their panties in a twist and complaining to another slave about how "that one didn't offer." Can you? What they wanted - they commanded. IF they found a slaves behavior less than pleasing, they certainly didn't whisper to someone else about it - they made it clear what they expected - TO the slave they expected it from. ~laughing~ i just can't picture Samos or ANY of them huffing and crossing his arms, tapping his foot and complaining to the air about the lousy "service". Mostly because when they were IN a location where service of drinks was expected, Gorean Men didn't normally wait to be "offered" - they called out their command and let the slaves hustle about to fulfill it. And, in a situation that wasn't a paga tavern or a dinner table in a home - they didn't expect the slaves to come rushing to take drink orders - but if they wished something, they made it clear with a command.
Librarian	About this replied on: 10/26/2003 9:13:43 PM It's a deep rooted tradition in online Gor, but i challenge those who desire to be more 'by the books', AS WELL AS those who simply want the online Gor experience to be enriched with more texture and facets, more variety in interaction, more enjoyment - to take another look at this concept - and what could replace it. i realize that there is a measure of comfort in having all slaves wandering around offering service. Besides the comfort of the "known", that it's the way it's always been done and everyone has grown to expect it - besides that, it IS admittedly a lot easier on the free ~s~ "All slaves will do chores and offer service" is simple - somewhat like a one-size-fits-all mastery for the group of slaves in any given home. Admittedly it takes more effort to come up with the duties of a state slave, a bath girl, a field slave, a coin girl and so on. It does take some thinking and directing and commanding of slaves. It also takes a great shift in thinking and mindset on the part of the free ~s~
Librarian	About this "serving" thing replied on: 10/26/2003 8:57:27 PM This "editorial" goes against the traditions that online Gor seems to have been entrenched in for its entire history. Fair warning. Where did the concept that every slave "offered" service to every free whose path they crossed, come from? How did online Gor come to accept that it was required? That it was the nuts & bolts of slavery after the steel clicked in place? That it was offensive if a slave didn't "offer"? i wasn't here for the genesis of online Gor, nor the branching out of the first rooms and sites. Musing on it though, i suspect that the first room(s) were something of a paga den, or a small camp - and the slaves served each night as men gathered around the campfire. And, as more rooms were opened, they simply carried on the concept, regardless of the setting or location the room was supposed to portray. (It appears for many rooms that duplication occurred on so many things - the slave rules all look pretty much the same, same copied over lists of foods and drinks and caste colors...ah but that is another discussion ~L~) And, perhaps that's the way it was when most of us got here, and we accepted it as the way things are done - and get a little ruffled even when it isn't done. But you know, that isn't how it is in the books. Nope. Not at all ~s~ Paga slaves, working in a paga tavern for their Master, the owner of the tavern - now they raced from one customer to another offering paga, refilling goblets and bowls. Yes, they did. When they were IN the tavern. At other times, these paga slaves were on the docks recruiting customers for their Masters business, attempting to entice men to come to the tavern - but ~laughing~ not asking the men on the docks if they could bring them a paga from the tavern. As for the slaves who were not paga slaves? They might be state slaves, or field slaves, or work slaves, or pleasure slaves. They might be private slaves or lure girls or coin girls or kettle slaves or ladies serving slaves. Each had a different slavery, different requirements, different duties - and none of it was based on "offering service" to every free they wandered past. Except the coin girl whose duty was to beg to be used by men, for coin ~winks~

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