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| RMMee Moderator Quote | Reply | This message was updated on 3/15/2004 9:49:34 PM by RMMee | Osborne, Sharley, Bircumshire - of Shipley posted on: 3/15/2004 9:37:36 PM I reproduce a couple of e-mails I have received, plus my reply - a bit of Shipley history, but more concerned with family history. This e-mail is from A. Faulkner of Cambridge: "About 50 years ago my father took my mother and I to Shipley Hall park - from what I remember it was very eery and derelict. He said that his grandfather, possibly gt. grandfather, was gamekeeper at the Hall. His name was William Osborne born c.1802. Having seen on another site that there is a pool called Osborne's pool I wondered if this was perhaps a connection. Does your Society have any info. please? Also, either William Osborne's daughter, who was a dressmaker and/or her daughter, my grandmother, were dressmakers to the ladies at the hall. I found your site very interesting and shall look in again. Alicia Faulkner nee Dickins" My reply: "Interestingly, my great-grandfather was the gate-keeper, and, I believe, also a gamekeeper, for the Miller-Mundy's of Shipley Hall, living in the gate house at the entrance to the park from Bell Lane at Smalley - I would think he will have been a generation younger than your ancestor, but there may have been an overlap, and they may have known each other! There is indeed a pond called "Osborne's Pond." This was man-made, and was formed around 1770 to supply water for the new steam pumping engine at the nearby New Engine Pit, in the area now called Newcastle Plantation. Osborne's Pond was named after the farmer who at the time occupied Thorpehill Farm. It is not too unlikely, therefore, that your ancestor, the gamekeeper, was son of this farmer. The only other reference I can find (in the newsletters of the Heanor and District Local History Society) to anyone called Osborne in the Shipley area, is to a John Osborne who was in receipt of a poor rate in 1867." And the replying e-mail: "I found it quite interesting about Osborne's Pool and also your links with the Shipley Hall Estate. It would help to know where the Osborne's farm was, it may perhaps help me to look elsewhere on the internet to find the illusive William Osborne. My gt. grandfather, Williams son-in-law was Charles Sharley born 1827, possibly he was the gamekeeper, I don't know, but I have drawn a blank on him too. On the 1891 census he was already deceased as his wife/widow was listed as head of the household. The sons listed seemed to be employed in mining. William Osborne was married to a Jane Bircumshire (sometimes spelt Birkhamshaw) and there was quite a large family of Bircumshires in Heanor from the 1600's. Look forward to hearing anything else you can find out about the Derbyshire lot." So, is there anything that anyone can add to this, and I shall make sure its passed on. |
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replied on: 11/11/2004 1:08:56 PM CHARLES SHARLEY-marriage registered-Dec qtr 1854 Basford district-7b 230-married RUTH OSBORNE CHARLES SHARLEY- death registered-june qtr 1875 Basford district- 7b 82- age 48 Seems like the CHARLES you were enquiring about??? |
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replied on: 11/12/2004 11:11:15 AM Two William Osborne's located from the 1800s. Perhaps one or the other may fit the one you're searching for? William, b. 1819 - buried 22/04/1896 at St. Lawrence Church, Heanor, aged 77. William, b. 1817 - buried 22/12/1890 at Christ Church, Ironville. The earliest reference to a William Osborne which i can locate, is W. O. m. Elizabeth Longman at Heanor - 18/09/1603. There are two younger William's too, mentioned at each of the places above. In the 1881 Census, there were 283 Osborne's located in Derbys. The highest recorded concentration of the name occurred in Middlesex - 1647 in number Hope the information may be of some use to you. Azzabuv. |
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replied on: 11/12/2004 12:34:39 PM CHARLES SHARLEY ON 1871 CENSUS MARLPOOL COALMINER AGE 43. RUTH 34 WIFE 5 CHILDREN AND WILLIAM FATHER AGE 69 ALL BORN HEANOR |
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replied on: 1/24/2005 10:39:02 PM This may be of interest-1864 Derbys Post Office Directory-Heanor-lists: ISAAC BIRCUMSHAW-hairdresser and tailor, West Hill ADAM OSBORNE -furniture dealer, West Valley JOHN OSBORNE-boot and shoe maker & assistant overseer for Shipley, Shipley Ponds |
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replied on: 4/10/2005 8:01:55 PM This family is my direct line! Charles Sharley and Ruth Osborne are my 2xGGrandparents. Would love to exchange information...am especially interested in further information regarding Charles Sharley's being a gamekeeper, as that is a story passed down in our family that I have not yet been able to verify. |
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replied on: 4/11/2005 10:42:58 AM Hi, 1851 Osborne,Ruth,14,,2126,9,34 1861 Ilkeston Rd sch 40 Charles Sharley head 33 coal miner Heanor Ruth Sharley wife 24 Heanor William Sharley son 6 scholar Heanor Jane Sharley dau 3 scholar Heanor Joseph Osbourne Sharley son 1 Heanor Jenny |
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RMMee
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replied on: 4/11/2005 5:03:27 PM Swelker If you let me have your email address (please don't put it on here, but if you use the Contact Us page on the Society's main website, all messages come to me initially), I'll try and put you in touch with the original correspondent, who is also in the direct line from Charles Sharley. Robert |
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replied on: 4/13/2005 3:50:12 AM Thanks for this Jenny! The Osborne and Sharley families were enumerated next to each other in 1851; looks as if Charles married the "girl next door". Kind regards Sally |
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replied on: 8/28/2005 8:55:50 PM Jane Birkumshaw married William Osborn 07 April, 1828. Mary Birkumshaw married John Sharley 13 April 1821. Many Birkumshaw's, Osborn's, Sharley's to be found on Latterday Sts. Batch no. 7030708, or 7104905. Enter only the country- British Isles and batch number. Sandra |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 8/29/2005 7:02:57 PM There are two Osborne's mentioned on the 'Heanor Employment 1857' Thread, on the Heanor Forum. (Page 2). Azzabuv. |
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replied on: 11/26/2006 5:16:34 PM Hi there, I dont know if anyone is interested, but I have recently purchased an Antique Document (consisting of 2 pages) dated 10/12/1868 It is a Certificate of Acknowledgement of Deeds by Married Women! which mentions especially in this case Ruth Sharley (wife of Charles Sharley) of Heanor, Derbyshire on the one part and my ancestor John Henry Shorthose on the other. I would be happy to have these pages photocopied on A3 paper (plus the cost of postage) for anyone who might like to have them in their ancestry files. There is not much in the way of genealogical information given, but the documents could be of interest as a time line reference. |
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replied on: 2/15/2007 9:16:25 AM Dragging this thread up to the top again... I have a Mary Birkumshire b 1733 who married Joseph Slack in 1752 in West hallam. I have no further info backwards on these two. Their daughter was Ellen (Eleanor) Slack b 1778. Has anyone access to any info on this couple? Thanks |
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replied on: 5/31/2007 5:57:40 AM Would love a copy of the mentioned document listing the name of Ruth Sharley, wife of Charles Sharley...havent been onsite for ages, or I'd have jumped right on this one!Thanks for this offer! |
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replied on: 9/11/2007 4:48:53 AM I would love to have a copy of the document naming Ruth Sharley, wife of Charles Sharley. This couple was my 2xGGrandparents...many thanks for posting this...I answered on the forum but perhaps you didn't see it...please email me to arrange. If it is of a size to scan I can accept attachments. Kind regards sally@allidaho.com |
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Osborne, Sharley, Bircumshire - of Shipley
replied on: 9/11/2007 7:50:14 AM Sally Shortsocks hasn't been on the forum since last December, so if I were you I would try emailing him/her. If you click on their name, there is an option to send an email. Good luck Robert |
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