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RMMee
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replied on: 1/7/2005 8:56:18 AM The monkey story is true, however strange it may seem. |
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suzard
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replied on: 2/8/2005 12:30:53 AM Robert, could you tell me who the landlord's of the Midland Hotel were? Am especially interested in "Bertie" Severn who kept in early 1900's-I think?? |
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Jennypeg
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replied on: 2/8/2005 2:52:59 PM Hi, One of Bertie's children married a Hutsby thats my family ties, Marriage - Brinsley Parish Church - after Banns 12 April 1909, Bertie Severn aged 22 farmer, f William Henry Severn - Publican, to Annie Lindley aged 22, f Matthew Lindley - Carpenter, resident in Brinsley Witnesses Matthew Lindley and Flory? Severn from the book by Stan Smith Brinsley pubs The Clinton Arms closed in 1918 Bertie Severn was Landlord from 1917-1918. During the 1890s most of the pubs in the village were taken over by the big breweries and became tied houses, only able to sell the beer supplied by the brewery owners. The Clinton Arms was acquired by the home brewery of Daybrook and seens to have done quite well. Nevertheless, the Clinton Arms, was closed down by the Authorites in 1918 because they considered that Brinsley had too many pubs. As the licensing authorites wrote; "Brinsley has a population of 1,691 and there are five licensed premises within 700 yards. WHITE LION (35 yards) ROBIN HOOD(171 yards) NEW INN (700 yards) and PRINCE OF WALES(700 yards)" after the Clinton Arms was closed down, the landlord, Bertie Severn, received compensation of £70 from the licensing Authorities which was matched by a further £70 from the owners Home Brewery. The Brewery themselves also received compensation from the public purse. Bertie severn did not remain jobless for long. After the Clinton Arms closed he crossed the road and became landlord of the White Lion for quite a number of years. from 1919-1927 Bertie Severn was Landlord/licensee of the White Lion although not the oldest pub in Brinsley (that honour goes to the Robin Hood) the White Lion can be traced back to at least the 1860s when it was described as an alehouse "with 9 rooms of which 4 were public rooms" It also had " stabling for 6 horses" RIPLEY AND HEANOR NEWS 11TH MARCH 1938 APPLICATIONS The tempoary transfer of the Midland Hotel Langley Mill was grated from John R. Turton to Bertie Severn. RIPLEY AND HEANOR NEWS 6TH MAY 1938 APPLICATIONS Final transfer of Licences were granted in respect of the Midland Hotel, Langley Mill, from John R Turton to Bertie Severn, and the Eclipes Inn Loscoe, from Norman W. Brown to James Buxton. |
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RMMee
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Re: Public Houses
replied on: 2/9/2005 12:31:55 AM Details of licensees (1920 - 1978) taken from the Police Licensing Records held at County Record Office, Matlock: James Joseph Worthington John Wood 9/10/22 ? (unreadable) 11/1/26 William J Clegg 7/1/29 John Wm Bagguley 15/4/29 John Bowers 14/10/29 Bartholomew G Agew 6/7/31 William Brannon 18/11/35 John R Turton 8/2/37 Bertie Severn 2/5/38 Horace George Arthur Wright 12/8/46 Herbert Arthur Varley 31/10/49 Charles Wm Chapman 29/10/51 John Henry Beighton 24/5/54 Elsie Beighton 15/11/55 James William Froggatt 14/5/56 Marjorie Froggatt 7/3/68 Enro (?) George Brown 4/11/68 (Temporary Transfer) John Robert Guest 21/11/68 (Temporary Transfer) Eugeniusz Miroslav Sharma 27/10/70 |
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suzard
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replied on: 2/9/2005 11:21:22 AM Thank you-both Brilliant information. According to Kellys Directory 1936 Johnson Severn kept the Erewash Hotel Station Road langley Mill Johnson Severn was related to Bertie Severn Pigots 1835 Horse and Jockey Ilkeston kept by Edward Severn |
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Jennypeg
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replied on: 2/9/2005 5:07:06 PM Hi Robert, I've got some school photo's of: Langley Mill Boys school 1920 (2) Langley Mill Elnor Street school 1912 Langley Mill boys school 1922 Aldercar St Johns F.C Aldercar St Johns F.C. abt 1920 Langley St Marys F.C 1921/2 I will send them to you , do you have any info on Loscoe Landlords? |
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RMMee
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Re: Public Houses
replied on: 2/10/2005 1:26:50 AM Jennypeg I don't have information on Loscoe Licensees, but I know where to get it!!! I can add it to my list of things to do when next I go to the County Record Office if you like. (Langley Mill is my specialism!) It would, of course, need to be a new topic within the Loscoe & Codnor section. The photos would be great - are they from newspapers or are they actual photos? If the latter, then we are desparate to get some really good quality pictures of Langley Mill Boys School. A loan of the photos for copying might be preferable to sending scanned images to me, but I'm happy either way. Any pictures are of interest to the Society, as we are trying to preserve as many as possible. |
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RMMee
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replied on: 2/10/2005 9:35:07 AM Suzard Johnson Severn was at the Erewash Hotel from 1933 to 1939 |
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Jennypeg
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replied on: 2/10/2005 9:58:34 AM Robert, the photo's are out of the newspapers,I'm just sorting them out, its ok about the Loscoe Landlord I will look at the records next time I'm at Matlock. |
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RMMee
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replied on: 2/10/2005 11:30:28 AM In that case, you want D3376 Box 80/1 - A Division Register of Licensed Victuallers |
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suzard
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replied on: 2/19/2005 6:56:29 PM Anyone know which pub William Henry Severn kept? |
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RMMee
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replied on: 2/19/2005 7:03:58 PM He doesn't feature in Langley Mill in the document I referred to above - but I haven't checked a wider area, just Langley Mill/Aldercar. What is the time period? |
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suzard
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replied on: 2/20/2005 1:59:43 PM He was the father of Bertie Severn who kept the midland Hotel-on Berties marriage cert his father is described as William Henry Severn publican-could poss have been in Brinsley -but not sure |
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Peter Chamberlain
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replied on: 2/28/2005 4:47:31 PM Can anyone furnish any history on the two forgotton alehouses at Langley Mill THE MINERS WELFARE AND THE WORKINGMENS CLUB |
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suzard
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replied on: 2/28/2005 4:58:57 PM Wasn't there also the British Legion-which became a nightclub (I think) and then burned down? Also I suppose Potters is also licensed premises-the History of that is it was the Coop Bank! As for the Miner's Welfare-all I remember about that is in the 1950's I used to go to Ballroom Dancing classes there which were run by Joan and Lewis Wilson. |
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