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| pjb Quote | Reply | | local area names posted on: 7/31/2004 8:42:36 PM My late Grandfather used to live in Langley Mill.Around the North Street Area.He used to refer to it as the "PUZZLE".Why? Can anyone help. In Heanor-Falls Road.My Mum and Dad call the estate down there "PEACOCK TOWN".Why? |
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replied on: 8/3/2004 11:23:36 AM The owners of Fall House at the very bottom of Falls Road used to keep Peacocks in the gardens, hence peacock town |
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RMMee
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replied on: 8/10/2004 5:49:21 PM The Puzzle, or, to give it its full name, "Packman's Puzzle," was the name given to the blocks of terraced houses that made up Regent Street, Orchard Street, West Street, and Hampden Street, off North Street, Langley Mill. The explanation I have heard is that the numbering of the houses was so complicated (perhaps deliberately?), that it was a puzzle for callers (especially debt collectors and the like) to find where they wanted to go. Packman will have been the name of the builder and owner of the block. In the same way, at the top of North Street, was Pender's Row, the proper name for which was East View Terrace. This subject has got me thinking of a new page for the main web site, so if anyone would like to contribute some other local area names, please feel free! |
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RMMee
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replied on: 8/25/2004 9:56:43 PM A different explanation regarding "Packman," which probably fits better: A packman is a travelling salesman, or door to door collector, and the puzzle was a puzzle to such people! It fits in with the rest of the explanation above. This is probably a more likely explanation that Packman being the name of the owner of the houses, as I have not come across the name Packman in my research. (In the 1881 census, although West Street and North Street are named, the rest of the area what was built at the time, was named differently, namely Taylor's Row, Williamson's Row, and Erewash Row, |
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replied on: 12/13/2004 12:37:04 PM When does a jitty become a twitchel and vice versa? We used to use lanes at Langley Mill as shortcuts-The lane off the rec to Argyle St was the jitty, but the one from Argyle St through to Cromford Rd was the twitchel. I think I've got that the right way round????? |
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replied on: 12/13/2004 1:25:23 PM Wasn't a 'Twitchel' a TIGHT fitting jitty? Entering a Twitchel, you walked sideways on. In a Jitty, you walked normally. Azzabuv |
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suzard
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replied on: 12/13/2004 11:16:16 PM That would fit in with descriptions |
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RMMee
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replied on: 12/14/2004 6:31:43 AM To me they were both jitties - although I had heard of the word twitchell, I don't think I ever used it. |
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replied on: 12/14/2004 6:40:11 PM Ah but then you are so much younger than me! Penders Row(which is what I always knew East View Terrace as)was possibly not called after the builder, but the number of Pender families who lived there-I haven't any proof of this- but it seems to be something that was done in yesteryear. In Mapperley Village Coronation Rd was known (and still is to old villagers) as Walkers yard, Part of Lodge Rd was Moons yard-so called after the families who lived there. Also Manor Farm(and the road leading to it) was called The Pool-because at one time there was a pond there where all the local farmers brought their livestock to drink-no Pool there now-just big puddles when it rains. It's a shame some of these nicknames die out-the reasoning behind them is usually a little piece of lost local history. |
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RMMee
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replied on: 12/15/2004 12:07:34 AM You're probably right about the others, but not, I think, about Penders Row. Pender was quite a local bigwig - teamed up with GR Turner for a while, so I doubt he lived on East View Terrace himself! I wonder how much of the jitty/twitchel discussion is an age thing - would today's kids call it something else? |
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replied on: 12/28/2004 5:42:10 PM My Grandfather used to live in Hampden St,I was born there. The term in those days was Packies puzzle.This was because when the packman appeared, each house would signal next door by banging on the wall. It puzzled the packman that everyone seemed to be out. |
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replied on: 12/28/2004 11:37:23 PM Regarding jitty/twitchel thing, has brought another thing to mind-I wonder if a narrow passage between terraced houses is still referred to as an "Entry"? |
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replied on: 12/29/2004 12:45:12 PM I don't know about now. But in the 1990s, around Heanor, the covered passage between two houses was still called an 'entry', as well as round the Ilson way. Azzabuv. |
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