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paulcliff
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replied on: 1/11/2005 12:36:25 AM Just realised that there is a Bestwick on the Photo as well, they are also related by Marriage. Im beginning to wonder if its a family gathering :o) Paul |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 3/27/2005 2:01:03 PM From the sound of Suzard's description, the original Dumbles must have covered the area from Denby, in the North, to the American Adventure Park in the South, or even to Cotmanhay - unless two adjascent areas were given identicle names round about the same period in time? As far as i was aware, the Heanor Dumbles covered the area from Denby, ending at the Heanor Rd; to Smalley, along its whole length. Does anyone have any further information relating to the area? Azzabuv. |
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suzard
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The Dumbles
replied on: 3/28/2005 12:10:22 PM I am being sent an old map with Shipley Dumbles on.....another wait for postman pat |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 4/9/2005 11:40:39 AM Does anyone know when/why the two Dumbles pond's original names were changed? On the 1896 O.S. Map, they are named as the two Egreaves Ponds. In the 1950s and after, they were known locally as the Everick ponds, or Evericks. Azzabuv. |
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RMMee
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replied on: 5/8/2005 6:24:48 PM I've finally got round to walking across the Dumbles and Red River today - absolutely wonderful bit of countryside, and let's hope it stays that way, and that the housing of Heanor does not eventually take over. In case you didn't know, Red River is now formally adopted as a "local nature reserve," and teams of volunteers help to conserve the small area which is apparently famous for its newts. Well worth a visit. There is a website for the nature reserve at http://www.gev.org.uk/projects/wildcommunities/redriver.html |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 5/23/2005 7:56:03 PM Robert. Did you stick near the civilised end of the Dumbles, or journey forward into the wilds - I.E. such as 'Table Top Mountain' and area to the West, mid-way between Denby and Smalley? Azzabuv. |
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RMMee
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replied on: 5/24/2005 7:07:17 AM Azzabuv Since I don't really know the area, I'm not sure. We went along Red River, then climbed a hill and moved over to the left till we came to the top of Glew Lane. After that we walked straight across the field, then cut across again till we joined the housing estate near Heanor Gate School. I wouldn't describe it as wild, but it is still a lovely area to walk in. |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 5/24/2005 12:33:42 PM After you reached Glew Lane and headed for the housing estate, it seems you were to the uphill-South of Table Top Mountain. No, not actually wild, more like natural nature, with the Red River down in the small valley among the trees and the 'River' running along its course from the Table Top Mountain direction, with the other woods to its far right. Perhaps next time, Robert? Azzabuv. |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 9/1/2005 3:51:35 PM The name of the lane, which runs from Loscoe, through the old farmyard and leads to Smalley, across the top of the Dumbles, is called 'Glew Lane'. This is originally a Yorks. slang name, meaning - 'a nickname for a cautious, prudent, or wise man'. Its variant name is 'Glue Lane'. Perhaps its real name should read - 'Glew's Lane'? Azzabuv. |
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RMMee
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replied on: 9/1/2005 7:44:04 PM As it says on the main site, Glew Lane is probably named after John Glew, churchwarden of Codnor in the late 16th century (or one of his family). |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 9/1/2005 8:18:04 PM There's the wise man part of it then, Robert. I still wonder though, if it was originally 'Glew's Lane', or whether they just used the abrupt surname to begin with? Old Records needed......... Azzabuv. |
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db639
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replied on: 10/28/2005 9:24:53 PM I remember going on the dumbles as a kid ,from loscoe road school we used to go up through sough wood and come out at the bend on smalley hill ? The delves is where the men used to play pitch and toss , with a lookout on top of one of the banks db |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 11/4/2005 11:03:26 AM Hi, DB. I too remember, on a few occasions, following that same meandering course to the top of Smalley Hill via Sough Wood Etc. Have you checked the following thread on the Heanor Forum - 'Heanor Loscoe Rd; Boys School Teachers - L-1940'? Azzabuv. |
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Jennypeg
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replied on: 11/4/2005 1:06:00 PM 25th March 1977 Ripley & Heanor THE DUMBLES In my early years, one favourite place we often visited was the Dumbles, which was situated between Heanor, Smalley and Denby. It was ideal for picnics, rambles, and nature studies and because of its peculiar geological structures, to use as an adventure playing ground. Coal had been worked here for many generations as subsequent opencast mining operation exposed much evidence of these early operations. The name Dumbles is, I believe, a corruption of Dumbwells, which were made to drain the coal and ironstone workings. These wells had to be emptied by hand unlike the flowing wells, which are a feature of our Derbyshire countryside. The old Loscoe sough was constructed in the early 1700’s. One of the feeders to the sough that ran through the Dumbles we named the Red River, the colour of which I later learnt was due to a high content of ocre or iron oxide. Another thing we discovered was that if the mud on the bottom was stirred up with a stick, bubbles were formed which gave off a terrible smell, and could be ignited, burning with a blue flame. This I also learnt later was sulphuretted hydrogen. The area was also part of a nine-hole golf course, and many boys were the proud owners of golf balls, which presumably had been lost in the rough. The Dumbles could be reached by several different paths from Heanor, each of them interesting in different ways. One was by way of Nook End where one could see and hear the hand frames at work at Allen’s and Boroughs, continuing by the footpath past Calladine House (the local isolation Hospital) and into Glew Lane, which came to an abrupt end here. This had been the source of a dispute in the late 1500’s between Sir John Zouch of Codnor Castle and John Glew, churchwarden for Codnor, in which Sir John claimed his right to take his Codnor coal through Kidsley Park without fee, let or hindrance. The top of this lane was the entrance to the Dumbles. Another way was by the path from Derby Road which is now Hallington Drive, past the homes of the Fletchers (lace) and Marshall’s (laundry), then by a footpath which forked below Walter Price’s smallholding and rose nursery, the right leading straight to the Dumbles, the other to Banks Barn Farm which again was near our objective. One other way was by the side of the Laundry, which had been the Lace factory of Edward and Walter Bryan at one time. This path passed Kingstown, which had been the home of John King who built the gas works at Langley Mill in 1855, which provided Heanor with coal and illumination. King carried out his experiments in gas-making here, and at the house where he lived could be seen a large area of newer brickwork, made necessary by an explosion whilst he was working on the manufacture of coal gas. During excavations some years ago, a large well was discovered containing gas tar. John King was evidently a man of many talents as record of 1860 describes him as “Lace Maker, Gas Maker, Shopkeeper, Engineer Appliances for Mines and Railways. This footpath connected with the one previously mentioned, just below Walter Price’s I have not seen the Dumbles for many years, but doubtless opencast mining has left it entirely different to those happy days spent there when we were young. Mr. Eggleshaw Jenny |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 11/4/2005 8:53:44 PM Some really good historical Dumbles information there, Jenny. Have you been round those Ponds as yet. If you do go to inspect 'em, don't forget your wellies. Azzabuv. |
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