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This message was updated on 2/23/2005 7:11:56 PM by Azzabuv



The Pines/The River
posted on: 2/21/2005 6:03:15 PM

Can anyone help with this mystery?

The 1891 Census gives an address - either on, or just off Loscoe Rd; It's recorded as 'The Pines' or 'The River' with its then occupants. Any idea where this may have been.
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The River
replied on: 2/22/2005 12:42:33 AM

I can't see anything on the 1900 OS map - sorry
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The Pines/The River
replied on: 2/22/2005 12:18:00 PM

Yes, i'd checked the map, Robert.
What with 'Heanor's America', 'Bunkers Hill' and now 'The Pines' or 'The River', it's as if someone in that time period invented those local names hopefully for posterity. Unfortunately though, it looks as if their life's limit consisted of a few years to a decade?
A challange for us.........
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The River
replied on: 2/23/2005 10:50:56 AM

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Who is living on River Lane.Have privy to the 71/81/91/01census images if 1 or more families still living in same area may be able to pinpoint where it is
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The Pines/The River
replied on: 2/23/2005 12:35:33 PM

Here's the info. Peter. One family. The name of the place is given only as 'The Pines', or 'The River'.

Marshall, John. Head, aged 28. Coal miner - Bn. East Leek, Leicestershire.

Marshall, Minnie/Maisie?. Wife, aged 29 - Bn. Newark on Trent, Notts.

Marshall, William. Son, aged 9, Scholar - Bn. Newark on Trent, Notts.

Marshall, Mary Ann. Daughter, aged 5, Scholar - Bn. Heanor, Derbys.

Marshall, Annie Marie(a)? Daughter, aged 3 - Bn. Heanor, Derbys.

Marshall, Edith Alice. Daughter, aged 1 - Bn. Heanor, Derbys.

Marshall, Bryan. Brother, aged 16? Coal miner - Bn. East Leek, Leicestershire.

There's quite a large number of 'Marshalls' living in Heanor today, but one in particular still lives on Loscoe Rd; towards Wellington St; Could this be 'The Pines' or 'The River' area?
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This message was updated on 2/24/2005 10:22:13 AM by Peter Chamberlain

The River
replied on: 2/23/2005 4:48:47 PM

AZZABUV
Out of Luck 1901 John Marshall and family living 14 Church Street.Do you think it could have been a house name,not absolutely sure it begins with letter R i think it may be The Pines done Loscoe Road in
1901 does not appear.
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This message was updated on 2/23/2005 7:20:02 PM by Azzabuv

The Pines/The River
replied on: 2/23/2005 6:22:17 PM

Peter, i've sent the 'The Pines'/The River' page to Robert, to see what he can make of it. Half the time it looks as if it could be 'Pines' and the other half of the time 'River'.
Did those Enumerators have to buy their own pen nibs, or were they given to them free? The Smalley Enumerator looks like he's got the cheapest nib AND been sucking on the golden liquid bottle. Disgusting.
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The River
replied on: 2/23/2005 6:49:33 PM

I think it's the Pines, but I can see The River too. The Pines fits more easily as a house name too.
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The Pines/The River
replied on: 2/24/2005 1:43:24 PM

Just braved the elements to go to Derby travelling through Loscoe Road spotted a block of cottages called THE ELMS coming back the wife spotted Blocks called THE
POPLARS and THE LAURELS,These on lefthand
side going towards Ripley between John Street
and Wellington Street.Some cottages Pebble-
dashed so could they be named after trees so poss a block named THE PINES
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The Pines/The River
replied on: 2/24/2005 1:48:13 PM

The latter sounds like the clarification we needed and a Marshall still lives in the Loscoe Rd; - Wellington St; area......if that's a tie?
A pity in a way though, 'The River' sounded more intriguing?
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The Pines/The River
replied on: 2/26/2005 6:56:45 PM

Cracked it,got out of my little sardine can on wheels and found if i could push one leg in front of the other i could walk.The PINES
inserted in all its splendour on a large stone in a block of cottages.Now we know within 4 houses where John Marshall and his family lived 1891.
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This message was updated on 2/26/2005 7:32:37 PM by Azzabuv

The Pines/The River
replied on: 2/26/2005 7:31:26 PM

And that's in the same area you noticed the other blocks of houses with the tree names?
Well, i can put the bike away again, now.
Thanks, Peter. That's another mystery bites the dust.

Now, just down the road, i notice another unusual name - 'The Gingo 9000 acre Banana Plantation'...........................................................................................................Joking.
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