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| RMMee Moderator Quote | Reply | | 1914 Mine Accident posted on: 3/16/2005 9:21:50 PM Can anyone help an emailer from the main site? "I am looking for information on a pit accident that occurred around June 1914 and as much as I know is the Langley Mill area. My aunty's father, Arthur Watson, aged 26 and also his brother of whom I have no details of age, etc., perished at the same time. Sorry but I was only informed of this a short time ago by my cousin who I have not seen for 30 years. So I also do not know if these were the only two involved or if there were more casualties." Anything that can be found will be passed back to the enquirer. Thanks |
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Jennypeg
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replied on: 3/16/2005 10:11:52 PM Hi Robert, I will be going to the library, I could have a look for you. I found this report for the same year Eastwood & Kimberley Advertiser 13th March 1914 Protracted Enquiry Fighting for Compensation Remarkable Evidence An enquiry which was held in the Institute at New Brinsley on Monday afternoon, touching the death of a miner of that village named Thomas Swann, lasted two and a half hours, and was characterised by some remarkable evidence. The jury were called upon to determine whether death was due to natural causes or from the result of an accident received in December last whilst working at the Underwood Colliery. The inquest was conducted by Mr. D. Whittingham, and was attended by Doctors Gauld (Nottingham) Neilson (Selston) F. Dixon and H.M.Gillespie ( Eastwood) Mr W Carter on behalf of Notts Miners Association, and Mr L.C.Hodges representing Messrs Barber Walker and Co. THE WIDOW ALLEGATIONS Mary Swann of Brinsley Hobsick, said deceased was her husband aged 60, He was a collier, in the employ of Messrs Barber, Walker and Co at Underwood Colliery, and was well and at work up to December 19th last, On that day he went to work as usual, and on returning said he had got a pick run in between his fingers of the right hand. The wound had been bleeding. Next morning he complained that it pained him, but he went to work, and continued to do so up to the Christmas holidays. He saw no doctor In the mean time, and went to work after the holidays, but the hand was still painful, and he continued at work for a further fortnight, another place came on the back of his hand a little way from where the injury was, and that kept bad also. His hand was swollen every night on returning home. He said the injury pained him whilst at work. Dr Gillespie saw her husband first. He was then suffering from a place on his right buttock, and the place on the hand had not healed. Dr Dixon visited her husband afterwards, but neither doctor dressed or saw the hand. Deceased was confined to his bed, and the wound was opened by Dr Dixon a Few days later. The place got worse, and her husband died on Saturday. The hand healed up whilst deceased was confined to his bed. Her husband had not suffered from swelling before. She knew of no injury he had received to the buttock. By Mr Carter; witness said her husband had worked for the Company 30 to 40 years, and had never been attended by a doctor for illness during that period. He Complained of pain during the Christmas holidays, and although witness asked him not to return to work, he said he was anxious to do so. There was another place half way up the right arm, similar to the one on the hand. He went to work in pain up to the 17th of January, when he said he could go no more, and would have to go to bed. Witness said she asked Dr Dixon whether the place on the buttock had anything to do with the hand, and he replied “ Yes, it had flown from the hand; it would be all alike” Dr Dixon continued attending him and certified that he was unfit for work. The company paid two compensation contributions. Mr Hodges explained that the under manager was under the impression that deceased was suffering from injury when he granted the certificates, but said payments were not made on those certificates. DR. DIXON PRESENCE REQUIRED Mr Carter said in view of the foregoing evidence, he thought the attendance of Dr Dixon was necessary, and the Coroner agreed. Dr Gillespie said his partner was indisposed, but as the result of a telephonic communication Dr Dixon put in an appearance at a later stage of the enquiry. WIDOW’S STATEMENT CORROBORATED Joseph Wilson a collier, of Brinsley Hobick, and son in law of deceased, said that he was in the bedroom when deceased was first operated upon by Dr Dixon, witness passed the remark that it looked a rum place, and the doctor in reply said, “Yes it has all come from the hand”. Dr Gillespie said he was called in on January 23rd to see deceased, whom he found to be suffering from a carbuncle on the right buttock. There was a swelling and Some inflammation, and he prescribed for the patient, who was subsequently attended by Dr Dixon. No injury to the hand was mentioned either by deceased or his wife. Dr DIXON’S VERSION Dr Dixon spoke to visiting Swann on January 24th, when he was suffering from a carbuncle on the right buttock, and there was a good deal of inflammation. On the third or fourth day he had to make an incision. The wife was doing nothing at all for the patient, and he got a Mrs Hewes from next door to carry out his instructions, and he was personally in attendance every morning. The patient appeared to be going on well but cellulitis set in, and gradually spread down the limb and eventually the parts became quite gangrenous. When first called in he was never shown a spot on the hand or upper arm. The evidence of witnesses Swann and Wilson having been read over to Dr Dixon, he emphatically denied having made any statement associating the accident with the cause of the carbuncle, adding that no such thing had ever entered his head, and that he had never examined the hand. Continuing, Dr Dixon said he before any mention was made of the injury to his hand. Mrs Swann then referred to it in his waiting room at Brinsley, when witness informed her he did not think any accident had caused her husbands illness, and he could not give her a paper for accident Benefit, but did so for sickness on the approved society, and she received two or three payments. The doctor added that he had to threaten the woman if she persisted in demanding an accident certificate he would cease to give any certificate at all and discontinue his visits. He could not connect the slightest injury with the complaint, but remarked that his personal habits had a good deal to do with his condition. Until the man was seriously ill, and it was thought he could not get better no mention was made to him of any accident. Had there been any blood poisoning from the wound on the Hand, there must have been some swelling. There was no doubt in his mind as to the cause of death, and so far as he was concerned no need for any enquiry. Asked by the Coroner whether, after hearing the evidence relating to the injury and the fact that the man continued working in pain, he was now of opinion the one Was part and parcel of the other, Dr Dixon replied, “ No, I certainly do not. I could not connect the two. It is a mere coincidence”. asked further whether inflammation might Have set up in quite another part of the body, the doctor replied it was within the bounds of possibility. A NEIGHBOUR’S STORY Emma Hewes (whose evidence was requested by the jury) having been sent for, said she was asked by Dr Dixon to assist in nursing deceased. She lived next door to Swann’s. She had heard of no injury to deceased’s hand until after he had been in bed a week, when Mrs Swann showed her healed scars on the right hand. The arm was not referred to, and there was no swelling. She never heard Dr Dixon make any reference to the injury being part and parcel of the other complaint neither did deceased in her hearing ever complain of an injury to his hand. Witness admitted that Mrs Swann passed the remark to her that she thought they would have put the compensation allowance in again, and also that on several occasions she heard Mrs Swann remark that Dr Dixon said it was from the injury to he hand. THE POST-MORTEM Dr G R Gauld spoke to making a post-mortem examination in the presence of Drs, Northwood, Gillespie, Neilson and Dimun, representing interested parties, as a Result of which all agreed that the cause of death was due to cellulitus of the right leg following a carbuncle on the right buttock Questioned by the Coroner as to whether he did not think it possible the injury may have brought about the carbuncle, the doctor replied that in his opinion it could Not directly produce the carbuncle there would have been distinct traces of blood poisoning had such existed. As to the possibility of the injury accelerating the doctor said there was no evidence, to show any direct or indirect proof of the accident causing death, but he admitted there was a possibly of such. Mr Carter: you were all perfectly agreed on the certificate you have given? Dr Gauld: Yes The Coroner intimated that he had been commissioned by Dr Northwood, who attended the post-mortem on behalf of the Notts Miners association, and who was prevented from being present at the inquest, to state that he was entirely in agreement with the finding. Verdict After a short deliberation in private the jury returned a verdict in accordance with the medical evidence but added that in their opinion death was Accelerated by the injury. |
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Peter Chamberlain
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replied on: 3/18/2005 10:14:06 AM Robert come up with this family in 1901 Samuel Watson 42 Fanny 40 Arthur 13 Jesse 11 Samuel 8 Harold 6 Eliza 4 Fred 3 Edith 4 months All residing at 48 Ormonde Street ORIGINAL IMAGE AVAILABLE IF YOUR CONTACT SENDS ME AN E-MAIL ADDRESS. PETER |
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Jennypeg
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replied on: 3/18/2005 1:53:32 PM Hi Robert, I've looked at the Ripley and Heanor newspapers for 1914 but did not find a report about Arthur Watson, I will have a look at the mining accident books at Matlock dating from 1850-1914 next week. |
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replied on: 3/18/2005 2:29:23 PM 1891 CENSUS Ormonde St Samuel Watson head 35 coal miner Heanor Fanny Watson wife 29 Greasley Frank Watson son 7 scholar Greasley Harris?Watson son 5 scholar Heanor Arthur Watson son 4 Heanor Jesse Watson son 1 Heanor |
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Peter Chamberlain
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replied on: 3/19/2005 9:00:52 AM On the mining accident site a Arthur Watson is reported killed between 1910-1914 unfortunately no other info. |
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Jennypeg
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replied on: 3/19/2005 10:08:53 AM Hi Peter, I was hoping for more info, in the books I looked up James Gill and found: 1891 14th Nov Ripley Ripley James Gill Driver 15 years, maybe the Eastwood and Kimberley papers have the report. The Ripley and Heanor 1914 * copied the report. Jan 16 1914 Langley woman fatal scalds Rebecca Palmer aged 73 18 Feb 1914 Final Transfer Railway Tavern Langley Mill was granted to John Thos Wood 24 April 1914 Temp transfer of Thorn Tree Inn James Ernest Anness to Charles Fryer, Sportsman Inn Codnor from Wm Haywood to James E Anness 1 May 1914 Marlpool mans claim, William Hardy of Marlpool * 8 May 1914 Memorial window unveiled in Heanor Church Jun 1914 School case, Esan Hardy of Langley Mill * May 1914 Langley Mill girl drowned Martha Ellen Watts aged 6 26 Jun 194 Kings visit to Heanor / Langley Mill 31 Jul 1914 William H Wollins Waingrove suicide 18 Sept 1914 Girl drowns at Marlpool, Mary Catherine Brentnall aged 8 * 18 Sept 1914 The War, “Germans still retreating” STOKER HERBERT MARSON * of Codnor On board H.M.S. Aboukir when torpedoed in North Sea, Sept, 1914 aged 22 years |
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replied on: 3/19/2005 12:58:54 PM Peter Which mines accident site do you refer to? |
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replied on: 3/20/2005 10:08:37 AM quote: Robert http//www.cmhrc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/lods.12.htm Peter |
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Jennypeg
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replied on: 4/12/2005 2:05:38 PM Hi Robert, I've been to Matlock and this was in the Mining book 1910-1914: 18 June 1914 Askern Main Yorkshire Arthur Watson collier 26. Jenny |
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