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| Iceboy53 Quote | Reply | | windmill on mill rd marlpool posted on: 3/21/2005 4:04:49 PM Has anyone any information or pictures on a windmill that used to be situated to right of our garden facing mill road. |
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Azzabuv
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windmill on mill rd marlpool
replied on: 4/2/2005 12:48:02 PM The Windmill was there in 1791, (Burdett's Map) but it doesn't show up on the 1896 O.S. map. Azzabuv. |
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Jennypeg
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windmill on mill rd marlpool
replied on: 5/14/2005 2:45:37 PM Hi, I found this about Marlpool Mill but no photo! RIPLEY AND HEANOR NEWS 10TH Oct 1975 MARLPOOL MILL Sir, - Your correspondent, Mrs Czarnowski’s enquiries concerning Marlpool Mill and Sukey’s Hole is interesting to me. The exact date of the demolition of the Mill I do not know, but I would say 1878 for this reason. My father, who was born in 1869, remembered the Mill working, but your correspondent’s mother, Mrs Brentnall, still living in John Street, aged 96, did not. I assume from this that the Mill closed about the date I have given. My records show that George Abbott was operating the Mill in the late 1860’s. I would like to give some interesting facts, not directly concerned with the question asked, but connected with it. Some bricks from the demolished Mill were used to build a house on Mill Road, owned by the late Mr. George Pynegar. The name Pynegar is worthy of mention as it is one of the oldest family names in the district. One Pynegar was a drummer in Cromwell’s army in 1645, a Langley man I believe, he gave evidence at the trial of Charles 1, namely that he had seen the King’s flag raised at Nottingham Castle. A plan of The Enclosures Act, dated 1796, shows a road off Mill Road, opposite Propect Road, named Pynegars Road, A further coincidence, although not of historic interest. Some 60 years ago a schoolteacher named Pynegar lived at the old Millhouse. In answer to Mrs Czarnowski’s second question, I would like to quote a ballad punted at Nottingham in the early part of last century entitled “Murder most foul” which I found in some papers belonging to my grandfather; there were quite a number of verses, of which I remember two. This may be, or not, an answer to the question, but when I was a boy it was always said that a woman had drowned herself in the pond. The verses I remember are as follows: Shrove Tuesday and Ash Wednesday, When men went to plough, Suke White made some pancakes, she did not know how; She burnt them, she scorched them, till they were all black, Then put in some poison and killed off old Jack. When they went to fetch her for murder most foul, They found her face downward in old Sutty’s pool; She had cheated the hangman, which no doubt was best, But now and forever she will never find rest. I suppose from the ballad one could assume she had killed her husband with poisoned pancakes; the reference to old Sutty could have been Squire Sutton, of Heanor Hall, the owner of the pond. Yours etc, P. Eggleshaw Jenny |
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Iceboy53
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windmill on mill rd marlpool
replied on: 5/15/2005 1:26:34 PM thanks for that information. is the reference to "old suttys pond" the one in the park or the pond of marlpool. |
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windmill on mill rd marlpool
replied on: 7/9/2005 6:13:43 PM From Kellys 1881 Directory This lists a Joseph Smallwood, farmer and miller, Marlpool. It may enable you to have a start point for more research. regards Phil |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 7/9/2005 8:18:56 PM 'Suke White'. Could she have been the originator, by name, of 'Sukey's Hollow'? Azzabuv. |
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Iceboy53
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replied on: 7/9/2005 9:10:22 PM azza,i'm sure i've read somewhere on this site about this suke murder, i think it was either jenny or suzard. ice |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 7/9/2005 9:16:54 PM It's on the Heanor 'Sukey Hollow's thread, but no name of the murderer. Anyway, i don't think Jenny or Suzard would be connected with a thing like that. Have you got any evidence? Azzabuv.  |
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philfred
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windmill on mill rd marlpool
replied on: 2/25/2006 1:20:12 PM Open up http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/index.jsp then click on the maps button. Put Heanor in the place search box and follow the instructions. Once you have the map displayed, look in the bottom right hand corner at the map view options. Select the Ist edition OS map option and this should reveal the location of the Marlpool mill. It looks as if it was near the top of Ella Bank Road on the left going down the hill. I have only just found the site via the GENUKI site, hope the info is of use to you. regards Phil |
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Iceboy53
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replied on: 2/25/2006 7:43:40 PM do you mean the two round marks on the map? |
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philfred
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replied on: 2/26/2006 2:22:53 PM Here goes with how I did it, On the home page left click on "Historical Mapping" Go to bottom right of the page to "Select Map" then click the arrow to the right of the "Select Map" From the options displayed left click on "19th Century:OS First Series" Above "Select Map" there are four options, left click in the white circle to the left of "Zoom In". This should put a green circle inside the white one Put the cursor over the map in the area od interest and left click. Repeat this until you find a recognisable area. Select the "Pan" control then back to the map put the cursor where you want the next map to be centred. By use of the zoom and pan controls you should find Heanor then move around to find Marlpool. The map can be saved by right clicking it and using the "Save Picture As" option. I use Windows XP and it is saved, by default, in the My Pictures folder. Hopefully the above will get the image you are seeking. My apologies if it seems a bit out of of kilter but I have just got up. I have started another run of 12hr nights on Saturday night. regards Phil |
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Iceboy53
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replied on: 2/26/2006 5:19:24 PM yes i've got it now....the map kept going to colour and leaving a black n white line across it, so i came out of it and tried again and hey presto your right phil..well done mate. |
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philfred
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replied on: 3/5/2006 6:31:32 PM The windmill appears on the 1887 map found on http://www.old-maps.co.uk. The map is more detailed than the earlier one. Using my trusty A to Z street atlas I would place the mill between Mill Bank and Mill Road. The old-maps site is easily navigated and searched, once you have the small map on screen select enlarged map from the buttons at the bottom. The enlarged map appears in a new window and can be saved by right clicking then selecting save as. The map is saved in bmp format and it is a good idea to change the name from untitled. If you have image manipulation software you can crop the image to concentrate on the immediate area of the windmill. The cheats way is to print it on A4 paper then blow it up to A3 size on the copier(if you have access to one). regards Phil |
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Iceboy53
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replied on: 3/8/2006 9:44:37 AM all done thanks phill,very interesting as well. |
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RMMee
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Windmill on Mill Road, Marlpool
replied on: 3/23/2006 11:33:41 PM The Ilkeston Advertiser for 21 March 1891 reports: "An ancient landmark, a windmill, which stood at Marlpool on one of the highest points in Derbyshire, has just been pulled down." |
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Iceboy53
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Windmill on Mill Road, Marlpool
replied on: 3/26/2006 9:29:21 AM some years ago there used to be garages at the top left hand side of mill rd,at the back the garages i was told that's where the mill used to be. but a friend said she had found some evidence of the mill in her back garden on east street and that the mill was closer than we think. could this be right?. |
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