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| suzard Researcher Quote | Reply | | Kings Head? posted on: 5/17/2005 6:23:05 PM Anyone heard of the Kings Head Heanor? Ripley and Heanor 7 Jun 1901 mentions new licensee of Kings Head Heanor-Mr Callinan |
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Azzabuv
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Kings Head?
replied on: 5/23/2005 7:21:54 PM I'm not certain about this yet, but it could have been the 'Nottingham House' pub in its younger days, situated just off the top of Derby Road, on the left. Azzabuv. |
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RMMee
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Kings Head?
replied on: 5/24/2005 6:45:15 AM The Nottingham House was certainly the Nottingham House in 1888 - that's not to say that it may not have had a second name. I don't think I've come across the King's Head. |
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suzard
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replied on: 5/24/2005 10:29:17 AM The licensee is stated as being Michael Callinan-I have found a Michael Callinan age 22 b. Ireland on 1881 census-cant find him on 1901- living at 36 Compton St Ilkeston and working as a labourer at Ironworks-I am wondering if this is the same person who took over the Kings Head? Is it possible it was the Kings Head Ilkeston and the newspaper has made a mistake???? |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 5/24/2005 12:37:50 PM There used to be some kind of a pub almost next to the present day Nottingham House, towards the end of Ray Street. But this was long ago. I have the info. somewhere concerning its demolition - search - search - searching. Azzabuv. |
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Azzabuv
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Kings Head?
replied on: 5/25/2005 10:08:39 PM There was a King's Head Pub in Heanor in 1786 at least. The name is mentioned in the Society's Newsletter, number 262, upper front page. Unfortunately, no address is stated. Azzabuv. |
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RMMee
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replied on: 5/25/2005 11:40:24 PM Well spotted Azzabuv. In that case I'd hazard a guess, and its no more than that at this time, that it was the King of Prussia (the Market Hotel). I say that because the reference in the newsletter is to a public meeting to be held in the Kings Head. I have seen other references (quite a lot in fact) to public meetings, prior to the creation of any form of council, being held at the King of Prussia. The King of Prussia was also next to the church, and, traditionally, notices of public meetings would be posted on the church door. Not so sure that the Kings Head in 1901 would have been the King of Prussia though - this topic certainly needs some more work doing on it. |
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Azzabuv
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Kings Head?
replied on: 5/26/2005 1:27:56 AM No 'King's Head' Pub comes up in the 1891 Heanor Census, Robert. But there are aproximately half a dozen pages missing from it. The Market Hotel is shown as 'The King of Prussia Hotel'. So it couldn't have been the elusive King's Head Pub after that date. So i'm not certain where the 1901 date comes in for it. Perhaps it's logged in one of those missing pages, or was demolished, or perhaps changed into one of those Westhill Beerhouses, or simply changed its name prior to 1857? Azzabuv. |
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RMMee
Moderator Quote | Reply | This message was updated on 5/26/2005 6:35:36 AM by RMMee |
Kings Head?
replied on: 5/26/2005 6:33:59 AM What I meant was that the King of Prussia might have been known also as the Kings Head back in the 1780's - the King of Prussia was certainly its proper name up until 1914. I shall have a look in the Licensing Returns next time I'm at Matlock. |
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suzard
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replied on: 5/26/2005 10:56:43 AM Just discovered on 1901 census: MICHAEL CALLISON 41 b. Ireland Admin Derby Civ Parish Ilkeston Occupation Brewery agent. I assume this is the Michael Callinan I found on 1881-if so by 1901 he was in the brewery trade! Sherlock hat needed again!!! |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 5/27/2005 10:46:55 AM You're probably correct on that assumption, Robert. But keep reversion to a Beerhouse in mind at Matlock. Azzabuv. |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 5/27/2005 3:57:14 PM Suzard. I can't find any mention of a Michael Callison, living on Compton Street, Ilson, on the 1891 Census. I can't even locate 'Compton Street'. At the King's Head, Ilson, the Landlord was John Wheatley and his Family - 1891. Azzabuv. |
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suzard
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replied on: 5/27/2005 11:05:40 PM In June 1901 Ripley and Heanor name given as Michael Callinan 1881 census transcribed as Michael Callinan 1901 census transcribed as Michael Callison so don't know what he would be transcribed as in 1891!! |
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