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| Nkelly Quote | Reply | | Gillott Family - Heanor posted on: 6/29/2005 10:00:49 AM I'm trying to research my granma's family tree for her 90th Birthday next year, she's convinced she's a descendent of Samuel Watson but all I can find are Gillotts. Her father was Albert Gillott born Heanor 1882, son of Joseph Gillott Heanor c1845 & Eliza Gillott Heanor c1852. Her mother was Mary Ann Walker born 1883 Heanor? but no records found. Just wondering if anybody has researched Samuel Watson's tree & if my Granma's hunch is correct!? - Thank you for you help |
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suzard
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replied on: 6/30/2005 1:20:10 PM 1881 census shows JOSEPH GILLOTT head 32 Coal Miner ELIZA GILLOTT wife 26 WILLIAM GILLOTT son 11 MARY A GILLOTT daugh 7 CATHERINE GILLOTT daugh 4 BETSEY GILLOTT daugh 2 all born and living in Heanor (there is also another JOSEPH GILLOTT 36, wife MARY A and their family living at Heanor.) 1901 census shows ELIZA GILLOTT age 49 born at and living at Heanor. So maybe ELIZA's age was mistranscribed on 1881??? Marriage of JOSEPH GILLOTT registered Basford district (covers Heanor) June Qtr 1872 -dont know who he married Also marriage of JOSEPH GILLOTT Basford dist 1879-but he married either Mary Blacket or Charlotte Saxton-possibly the latter. How was Samuel Watson mentioned? Can you give any more info? |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 6/30/2005 3:08:28 PM Hi, Ned? (Kelly). One marriage and two burials for you. Watson. Samuel, m. Elizabeth Write - 19/04/1819, at Alfreton, Derbys. Watson. Elizabeth Ann. Bd. 09/09/1855, aged 36, at Ripley All Saints, Derbys. Walker. Samuel. Bd. 21/04/1897, aged 57, at Codnor & Loscoe St. James, Derbys. Are you any relation to Mick Gillott, who lived on Thorpes Rd; Heanor, in the 1950s and 60s? ******************************************** Late addition - 1891 Census - Heanor, Derby Rd;. Gillott. Felix, Head, aged 22. Coal miner. Bn. Heanor, Derbys. Gillott. Elizabeth, Wife, aged 18. Bn. Swannich, Derbys. Watson. Elizabeth, Visitor, aged 9. Bn. Alfreton, Derbys. I see what you mean concerning the Gillott Family. The Heanor 1891 Census is chock-a-block with them. Azzabuv. |
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Nkelly
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replied on: 6/30/2005 7:43:43 PM No relation to the infamous Ned - well not that I know of! May well be related to Mick Gillott, my granma's father/family were living at 32 Thorpes Rd in 1901 - though looks like there were 100's of Gillotts in Heanor. |
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Nkelly
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replied on: 6/30/2005 7:55:48 PM Thank for this looks like these are the right Gillotts residing at 32 Thorpes Rd. I'll look into the marriage June Qtr 1872. As for the link to S Watson I'll have to ask Granma some more questions.Thank you again for your speedy response. |
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Jennypeg
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replied on: 7/1/2005 7:38:27 AM Hi, 1891 census Thorpes Rd Joseph Gillott 43 coal miner Heanor Eliza Gillott 37 Heanor William Gillott 22 coal miner Heanor Alice Gillott 17 seamstress Heanor Catherine Gillott 15 scholar Heanor Betsy Gillott 11 scholar Heanor Frank Gillott 9 scholar Heanor Albert Gillott 7 scholar Heanor John Gillott ? scholar Heanor Bertha Gillott 3 Heanor Infant daur 3wks? Heanor |
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Jennypeg
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replied on: 7/1/2005 8:07:38 AM This could be the Joseph you are looking for. 1841 Heanor Commonside William Gillott 35 F.W.K. Y Alice Gillott 30 Y Susannah Gillott 13 Y Fanny Gillott 13 Y John Gillott 7 Y Isaac Gillott 4 Y Samuel Gillott 1 Y 1851Heanor William Gillett head M Frame work knitter silk Derbys Heanor Alice Gillett wife 43 seamer Derbys Heanor Fanny Gillett dau 20 framework knitter cotton Derbys Heanor John Gillett son 17 frame work knitter cotton Derbys Heanor Isaac Gillett son 14 frame work knitter cotton Derbys Heanor Samuel Gillett son 11 frame work knitter cotton Derbys Heanor William Gillett son 8 scholar Derbys Heanor Joseph Gillett 4 Derbys Heanor Ho107/2126 cd2126 2a page 162 1881 Census Place: Heanor, Derby, England Source: FHL Film 1341792 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3324 Folio 54 Page 39 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Alice GILLOTT W 73 F Heanor, Derby, England Rel: Head Occ: House Manager John GILLOTT W 48 M Heanor, Derby, England Rel: Son Occ: Silk Framewk Knitter Jenny |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 7/1/2005 12:53:55 PM Hi, Nkelly. R.E. your G-Ma's assumption concerning herself being connected with the Watson side of the family. The Alfreton born Gillott visitor, 9 year old Elizabeth 'Watson' sounds intriguing in that respect. Did she settle fully at Heanor after the Census? Perhaps she was only decribed as a 'Visitor'? Was/is she the ambiguous connection? R.E. Mick Gillott. Yes, it sounds like the correct address/house on the left-hand side (going down) of Lower Thorpes Rd; Azzabuv. |
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replied on: 7/1/2005 2:14:54 PM Hi Nkelly, 1861 census RG9/2435 sch 187 Taghill Heanor William Gillott head marr 55 Silk Stocking Frame Work Knitter Heanor Alice Gillott wife 53 Seamstress Heanor Isaac Gillott son 24 coal miner Heanor Samuel Gillott son 21 coal miner Heanor William Gillott son 21 coal miner Heanor Joseph Gillott 14 coal miner Heanor William Woodhouse father widower -8? Ag Lab Atlow ?Derbys RG10/3480 1871 census sch 59 Commonside Alice Gillott head widow 63 manager of house Heanor John Gillott son widower 39 F.W.K. Heanor Joseph Gillott son 24 coal miner Heanor William Newton lodger 45 F.W.K. Heanor next door Samuel Stainsby and Fanny (nee Gillott) Jenny |
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Jennypeg
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replied on: 7/3/2005 8:37:24 AM Hi Nkelly, No problem, Samuel & Fanny Stainsby were my GGG-Grandparents, the Gillott’s and Eley’s came over from Flanders with the Huguenots who were French Protestants. Jenny |
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replied on: 7/4/2005 7:59:16 PM That's very interesting information concerning the Ancestral Roots of the Gillotts and the Eleys, Jenny. I know people of both surnames. I've always thought that the Eleys had an Irish strain in them. Azzabuv. |
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replied on: 7/4/2005 9:10:05 PM So Fanny was my GGG Grandfathers sister! Granma thought the Gillotts hailed from Switzerland & Germany & came over with the Norman's in 1066. Regards Nicola |
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Jennypeg
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replied on: 7/5/2005 7:51:07 AM Yes if its the same Joseph? From a book by Fred S. Thorpe The Heritage of Codnor & Loscoe “Loscoe Dam House was the Home of Mr Gillott and his daughter Miss Gillott She was a teacher at Loscoe Denby Lane School and had strong connections with Loscoe Church. Mr Gillott was agent to Vicas Hunter of Kilburn Hall, and the Dam House bears an inscription T.V.H. 1785 which are the initials of Thomas Vicas Hunter. The house contained a knitting frame, and the Gillott’s with the Eley’s came over from Flanders with the Huguenots who were French Protestants. In the book it also says: Samuel Watson, the famous woodcarver, who did much of the carving at Chatsworth House. He was born at Loscoe in 1663, died 26th March 1715 and buried in Heanor Church. Jenny |
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replied on: 7/8/2005 8:29:22 PM Rec'd Joseph & Eliza's marriage certificate this morning. 29th June 1872, Independent Chapel, Basford Distrct marriage of Joseph Gillott (25yrs)to Eliza Brown(20yrs), both born Heanor. Joseph's father was William (deceased), framework knitter. So looks this ties in with your William & Joseph. Regards Nicola |
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replied on: 7/8/2005 11:26:32 PM If you look on Churches/Chapels topic, there is info about Heanor Independant Chapel, where your ancestors were married-and more on the main site too-even a photograph-and really interesting info |
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replied on: 7/9/2005 7:15:07 AM Hi, this is brill, could you tell me the name of Eliza's father. Jenny |
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