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pacaine
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William Booth
replied on: 7/29/2005 2:10:36 PM Thank you Jenny. There is a possibility that this could be William's father, mother and older sister. Tag Hill is the address given by my other Great Grandfather Joseph Gillott in the 1881 census. Any chance of a look-up for William in the 1851 Census? Phil |
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Jennypeg
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William Booth
replied on: 7/29/2005 2:37:28 PM Hi Phil, 1851 derbyshire index, Booth,Jane,50,,2146,709,37 Booth,Jane,48,,2152,533,36 Booth,Jane,39,,2152,578,20 Booth,Jane,34,,2152,560,10 Booth,William,48,,2149,312,25 Booth,William,47,,2144,551,87 Booth,William,45,,2148,376,85 Booth,William,41,,2144,533,78 Booth,William,40,,2152,115,137 Booth,William,38,,2145,190,35 Booth,William,38,,2148,231,2 Booth,William,37,,2145,164,169 Jenny |
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pacaine
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William Booth
replied on: 7/30/2005 5:25:53 PM Hi Jenny, Forgive my ignorance but what are the numbers following each name in the index? Presumably the first number is age, followed by 2 commas, but do the others signify the area/address etc., of the family? How do they help to get from the index to actual entries? Thanks again Phil |
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Jennypeg
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William Booth
replied on: 7/30/2005 6:11:45 PM Hi Phil, The column headings are: Surname Forename Age (MWD) Piece Folio Schedule. Jenny |
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pacaine
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William Booth
replied on: 8/20/2005 1:47:26 PM I have found the marriage of William Booth to Harriet Allen Dec.Qtr.1863 and have ordered the certificate. Earlier in the thread I said I couldn't find William in the 1901 Census, however I did find Harriet living with 6 others at 32 Park Street Heanor. Unfortunately I clicked in the wrong place and got only Harriet's details and lost 50p of the 75p remaining on my voucher. There is no provision of a BACK or UNDO button. The helpdesk was no help. Apparently they only give help before you make the mistake  I shall be most grateful if someone with access to the microfiche in Heanor, will do a look-up for the rest of the family. Many thanks P |
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suegill
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William Booth
replied on: 8/20/2005 7:28:04 PM Is this both of them? 1901 census Harriet Booth abt 1845 Heanor, Derbyshire, England Wife Heanor Derbyshire James J Booth abt 1873 Heanor, Derbyshire, England Son Heanor Derbyshire William Booth abt 1841 Heanor, Derbyshire, England Head Heanor Derbyshire William A Booth abt 1876 Heanor, Derbyshire, England Son Heanor Derbyshire Send me your e-mail and I can send the image. Sue |
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pacaine
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William Booth
replied on: 8/22/2005 3:38:00 PM Thanks Suegill - yes that's my family. I did send you my email address for the image in a personal message but in case you didn't receive it, I'm at pacaine@hotmail.com Thanks again P |
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pacaine
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William Booth
replied on: 9/1/2005 4:15:07 PM I have now received the marriage certificate of William Booth and Harriet Allen, which took place in the Independent Chapel in Ilkeston in December 1863. They were both resident in Heanor at the time so I can't think why they went to Ilkeston. He gives his age as 18 and she is 17. There is no mention of his father, but hers was Peter Allen. The witnesses were Samuel Peck and June Newton. If this opens any doors to the Allen family I would be grateful. Thanks again P |
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Azzabuv
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William Booth
replied on: 9/1/2005 5:31:43 PM Hi, Pacaine. Perhaps they didn't have parental permission for their marriage - hence the Ilkeston visit? Azzabuv. |
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Peter Chamberlain
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William Booth
replied on: 9/1/2005 5:34:33 PM NOTICE IN 1881 CENSUS YOUR WILLIAM BOOTH AND HARRIET HAVE NEIGHBOURS IN RED LION SQUARE. Selina Allen Head Widow 70 Bn Ilkeston James Allen Son 44 Bn Heanor Just found Selina married a John Allen and James Baptised 1837 |
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Peter Chamberlain
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William Booth
replied on: 9/1/2005 5:58:35 PM Taghill site gives Peter and Lydia Allen Baptised 2 children at Heanor St LAWRENCE Charlotte 1854 and Harriet 1855 ages wont suit but could they have been baptised late? |
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Jennypeg
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William Booth
replied on: 9/1/2005 7:01:28 PM Hi, 1841 census for Heanor Common Peter Allen 30 F.W.K. Y Lydia Allen 30 Y Isaac Allen 10 Y Ruth 8 Y William Allen 6 Y Joseph Allen 4 Y Ann Allen 1 Y Heanor Common Peter Allen 75 F.W.K. Y John Allen 35 Y Sarah Allen 25 Y John Allen 25 Y John Allen 5 Y Thomas Allen 2 Y F.W.K. frame work knitter, Y yes born in Derbyshire Jenny |
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pacaine
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William Booth
replied on: 9/1/2005 7:52:08 PM Hi Jennypeg, The first family you quote would make Peter about the same age as Selina (see above). At that time Harriet would not yet have been born. 1851 or 1861 anyone please? Thanks P |
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Jennypeg
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William Booth
replied on: 9/2/2005 5:52:48 AM 1851 census index Allen,Harriet,3,,2126,88,149 Allen,Lydia,43,,2126,88,149 Allen,Peter,41,,2126,88,149 1861 census Heanor City Samuel Peck Head Un 20 coal miner Arnold Notts Page 73 Peter Allen head 52 silk stockinger F.W.K. Heanor Lydia Allen W 53 Heanor Charlotte Allen Daur 18 silk Glove Heanor Samuel Thorpe Boarder Un 27 coal miner Heanor Jenny |
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pacaine
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William Booth
replied on: 9/19/2005 6:02:04 PM Refering back to the previous mention of the marriage of Sarah Ann Booth to George Thornhill, witnessed by William and Harriet, her father's name is given as Henry John Hancock Brown. Any ideas as to why this should be so? Seems strange to me  Thanks |
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