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| RMMee Moderator Quote | Reply | | Codnor History posted on: 8/24/2005 8:44:47 PM I've been asked to contribute an article on the history of Codnor for a planned website by the Codnor Parish Council. Other than the castle, is there anything which anyone would regard as being absolutely essential on such a page? |
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suzard
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replied on: 8/25/2005 3:19:32 PM Domesday book online states "Codnor Cotenoure:Warner from William Peveral, Church, Mill, Town, 13th century Codnor Castle ruins"-so I guess the Church and Mill would be essential topics. Local "celebreties"? Railway Station? Industry -mining, Iron works? and the well known Codnor Phrenologist is a must. |
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Jennypeg
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replied on: 8/25/2005 4:04:34 PM Also there's Mr. Woolley: THE ILKESTON PIONEER 24TH AUGUST 1854 The original clock in Exchange at Nottingham was made by a mechanic of Codnor, named Woolley. As a brief history of the life of this eccentric character may be employed equally as an example and a warning to many of the youthful readers of the “Pioneer” we give it, with a few alteration, as recorded by Blackner: When a young man, Woolley was fond of rambling through the woods and fields with a gun, for the purpose of enjoying the sport of shooting. Being detected in the pursuit of this amusement, on the estate of William Andrew Horne, of Butterley, he was convicted of the offence of poaching, and condemned in penalty and costs. Feeling extremely mortified at being thus at once mulcted in his means, and denied the further pursuit of his amusement, he, with a sternness of purpose which indicated a power of self-command capable of achieving the highest objects, had it been directed to nobler aims and ends, made a vow never to cease from labour except when compelled by the actual necessities of nature, until he had obtained sufficient property to qualify him legally to carry a gun, and pursue his sport without those vexatious interferences from gamekeepers and the owners and occupiers of property, to which he had been hitherto subjected. Accordingly, to work he went, and having a constant demand for his labour, continued it night and day without any regular intermissions from his self-imposed drudgery, except such as were of the most urgent nature. When hungry, he paused for a few minutes to eat, and when over wearied and drowsy he laid himself down on a sort of couch to sleep; denying himself every comfort and even necessary of life except of the very meanest kind. Persevering through a number of years in this course of unwavering self-denial, and continually investing his accumulations in the purchase of real property, which his constant command of ready money often enabled him to effect on highly advantageous terms, he at length found himself in the once-coveted position of a man with £100 a year in houses and lands. But, alas! The charm was broken! The idea of spending his time in idly rambling through woods and fields with a gun, in pursuit of hares and partridges, was altogether abhorrent to his then state of feeling: he had bound his once proud and generous spirit, with the untiring energies of an iron frame, to the attainment of an unworthy object and a baser had taken its place. He lived now not to enjoy life for the present, or to anticipate enjoyment or usefulness in the future, but to accumulate useless wealth. He toiled night and day, not for the “glorious privilege of being independent,” but merely to hoard. The hard-earned pelf, which rose continually in shining heaps before his eyes, he had not the moral courage to expend even in doing an act of real service to himself much less in conferring benefits upon his fellow creatures. What a different result to this might have been the case had the mind of this man, with all its original mighty power of self command, and generous love of independence, been directed to the accomplishment of purposes worthy of such a mind to have entertained. With one instance of the extraordinary parsimonious habits of the Derbyshire Clockmaker, we shall close our brief account of his life: A person came one Sunday to pay him for a clock, who, after having paid the money, was invited by Woolley to stay dinner. The visitor having acceded to this invitation, his host said “I will boil a whole penny-loaf, other wise I should have boiled only half one, which he did, and this constituted the whole of the fare.” Woolley died about the year 1770, after having amassed a considerable property, which he bequeathed to one of his relations. (From Blacker and Bailey’s Histories of Nottingham) |
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RMMee
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replied on: 8/25/2005 8:11:50 PM Yes, I think Woolley (and Severn) would fit nicely into a "local people" type page. In relation to Domesday, I'm not sure about the Mill - I think that will actually have been at what is now Langley Mill! |
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JMax
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replied on: 2/7/2006 6:54:30 PM What about the history of the church to include the Quaker meeting place at Codnor Breach, The various chapels and meeting houses ( some of which I recall are mentioned in 'Owd Codnor') and of course Codnor St James. |
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RMMee
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replied on: 2/7/2006 7:12:33 PM It doesn't look as that particular project will come to fruition - not heard from them for ages. Not that I haven't got enough other history things to keep me busy!!!! |
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replied on: 2/23/2006 2:27:54 PM Anybody remember how the old bus'es used to struggle up the hill to Codnor Market Place? Used to wonder if we would get there or slide back down. Didnt know much about the workings of an engine back then. What happened to the little shops on the opposite side of there? |
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paulr
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replied on: 3/24/2006 11:30:56 AM Extract from The Buildings of England a Penguin book on Derbyshire first published 1953,Author Nikolaus Pevsner. Codnor,St.James 1843,by Robert Barker,quite pretty.Stone with narrow W Tower,the body of the church an aisleless parallelogram with lancet windows,white inside,and with a W Gallery on cast iron columns. Codnor Castle,1m.E.Visually impressive,with its cliff-like fragments of masonry rising to a height of 18ft,but archaeologically not very telling,unless one is provided with a plan of the results of excavations. Codnor Castle was built by the Lords Grey of Codnor and later belonged to the Zouche family. It was surrounded by a park of 1,500 acres. It consisted of a Lower and an Upper Court.The former lies W and NW of the present farm-house. It was separated from the Upper Court by a wall with two circular turrets flanking the gateway. In the middle of its W side were two slightly projecting rectangular turrets. The Upper Court contained the most important living quarters, a three-storeyed structure. Masonry dates from two periods, the early C13 and the early C14.The Lower Court was an addition to the earlier Upper Court. PaulR |
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replied on: 5/8/2006 4:05:28 AM Does anybody have any other Woolley stories? I am researching this line at the moment and any details are very welcome. FC |
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replied on: 7/24/2006 4:12:54 PM Does anybody know about Codnor Park Monument? When was it built, by whom, why, why did it close? Wesley Lees |
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replied on: 7/24/2006 5:14:22 PM Try www.jacksdale.org.uk click on Heritage and History, then High Days and Holidays, and Monument Hill. There is information about the monument plus photographs. Chrisbrin |
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paulr
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replied on: 7/31/2006 4:53:59 PM Hi Wesley, From TONIGHTS DERBY EVENING TELEGRAPH 31st July 2006.Page 13. REPAIRS START AT TOWERING TRIBUTE. Ironmasters monuments to be restored by specialists. BY JAMES COXON. Work has started to repair historic buildings which commemorate a major contributer to north Derbyshire's industrial heritage. The Jessop Monument Tower and Hall, both Grade 2-listed buildings in Codnor Park, were built in tribute to ironmaster William Jessop 2nd,the son of one of the founders of Butterley Ironworks in Ripley. UK Coal agreed to carry out the work when it was granted planning permission by Derbyshire County Council in 1988 to extract coal from an area close to the buildings. It has employed restoration specialists Croft Building and Conservation, of Cannock, to carry out the work. Dave Bolton, of UK Coal said: "The restoration project is being carried out by specialists to ensure the work is completed to the highest standards so that we can leave a lasting legacy to be enjoyed for decades to come." Butterley Ironworks was established in 1790 by Benjamin Outram and William Jessop.It was for many years, the largest coal,iron and engineering concern in the East Midlands. One of its most famous projects was making the roof for St.Pancras railway station in London, in 1868. The company also manufactured cast-iron rails. The hall and the tower,which is 90ft tall and has 150 steps leading to a viewing platform, were built following Jessop's death in 1852. In 1861, the tower was struck by lightning, which dislodged large blocks of stone. The hall went out of use many years ago and fell into disrepair. Work is also to be carried out on the monument grounds and Codnor Castle, with the total restoration work costing about £1.5m. Councillor Brian Lucas, the conty council's cabinet member for sustainable communities said: "We made a pledge when we granted planning permission that these buildings would be restored. I'm sure everyone's looking forward to seeing the finished results." This report is accompanied by a very good photograph of the work in progress, framed through the curved arch of the main entrance to the Hall. Picture by Jon Hindmarch JH280706A-3 Sorry it does'nt answer ALL of your questions. Chrisbin's lead above gives more information on dates. PaulR |
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replied on: 8/5/2006 4:25:07 PM And another one to try for the monument, http://www.cromfordcanal.org.uk/index.html then open the Jacksdale timeline. A little bit more information on the monument and Haynor (16th cent spelling) history. Put yourself back in time and in short trousers, saying Haynor would have resulted in a clipped ear, either verbally or physically. regards Phil |
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replied on: 8/17/2006 3:24:46 PM I was really pleased to see that Condnor Monument is to be restored and Codnor Castle too. The latter seems in a poor state even from the condition it was in when I played there as a lad. Once these things go, they are gone for good so we have a duty to pass them on to later generatins of Heanor and Codnor folk. |
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replied on: 6/21/2007 7:56:18 AM 1854 Ilkeston Pioneer CODNOR PARK The eleventh anniversary of the Codnor Park and Ironville Artisans and Mechanic's Library was celebrated on Tuesday the first inst, on the grounds of Codnor Castle, kindly lent by Mr. Thomas Martin, for the occasion. Special trains from various places were crowded with eager seekers after the pleasure, which the grounds of Codnor Castle that afternoon afforded. The Nottingham military sax-tuba band, Mr. Redgate's quadrille band, and Codnor Park accordeon band, sent forth their melodious strains, accompanied by the rustic swains and village maidens in the giddy whirl of the country dances. The amusements, which were of a diversified character, were resorted to by all parties, more particularly that of dancing. The grounds were cleared of their merry occupants shortly after 9 o'clock. |
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replied on: 1/13/2008 12:07:56 AM This death report gives a little insight into what Codnor was like in the 1800's R&H News Jan 10 1913 Lived during 6 reigns On Tuesday morning at 7-45 the death occurred at Chapel St Ripley of the town's oldest inhabitant, Mrs John Thorpe, aged 95 years, who for some years had resided with her daughter Mrs Curzon. This was after a week's confinement to her rooms but despite Dr Hall's valuable medical skill and every care from the family,the old lady succumbed after bronchitis to time's inexorable decree. Mrs Thorpe, whose maiden name was Susannah Cater,was the daughter of a stockinger and small-holder, who lived at the farmstead in the fields on the west side of Glasshouse Hill, Codnor.It was in 1817, the year of the Pentrich Revolution, that she came into being, and thus lived three years during the reign of GeorgeIII. Then came GeorgeIV, WilliamIV, Queen Victoria, King Edward VII and King George V. Mrs Thorpe naturally remembered little of the Coronation of these monarchs, she recalled however,that on the night of the death of WilliamIV a terrific thunderstorm broke out over the neighbourhood. The heavy rainstorm burst the old culvert which ran near what is now the Midland Railway embankment outside Codnor Station, and the floods rose as high as "Pichem Lane" or what is now titled "Station Road". In Mrs Thorpe's early days there were neither Church, Chapel or School in Codnor. She acquired the rudiments of a scanty education from a Miss Peake, a lady of some accomplishments who resided in a cottage opposite Holly Well on the main road from Codnor to Crosshill. At fourteen she had to take to the stocking frame, and made black silk hose to be conveyed by old Tom Hogg of Loscoe to Nottingham, as was then the custom. There was no Church in Codnor during Mrs Thorpe's early days, and as a matter of fact, her husband, to whom she was married at Selston Church, was a stonemason employed in the erection of the sacred edifice which is the Church for the parish of Codnor-Cum-Loscoe. The stage coach and the pack horse were the only means of locomotion, and she well remembered walking to Ripley to await the coaches halt at the Red Lion Hotel in order to "post" a letter to her husband who was working in Leeds. Codnor was a sparsely inhabited Hamlet in Mrs Thorpe's maiden days, for there was then no Mill Lane, and Bullock Yard was the most thickly built part. It is 64 years since Mrs Thorpe came to reside at Hammersmith, and 34 years since she lost her first and only life partner, who was for many years employed dressing stone at Butterley Ironworks in connection with the furnaces. She had nine children-three sons and six daughters. The deceased lady was of most cheerful disposition, and retained a lively sense of humour until a few days prior to her death. The funeral takes place this afternoon (Friday). Just out of interest I have traced Susannah Thorpe (nee Cater) through the census 1851 living at hammersmith Ripley with husband John age 33 mason and children Joseph 11, Ruth 8, Sarah 6, Phoebe 4, Mary 6mth 1861 Lowes Hill Ripley with husband John and children Joseph 21, Ruth 19, Sarah 16, Phoebe 14, Joseph(who ws really John) 7, James 5, Emma 2 1871 Lowes Hill with husband and children Sarah 26, Phoebe 24, John 17, Thomas 15, Emma 12, Susan 7 1881 Lowes Hill Widowed with children Phoebe 34, Susan 17, son in law Alfred Curzon (who had married daughter Ruth and was now a widower and 3 Curzon grandchildren George 8, John 6 and Ruth 3 1891 Chapel St Ripley Susannah living with Head of house Alfred Curzon (who had by now married daughter Phoebe-sister of 1st wife)and 4 Curzon children 1901 Chapel Terrace Ripley Susannah living with widowed daughter Phoebe Curzon (Grocer) and 4 Curzon children So it would be daughter Phoebe who looked after Susannah to the end |
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