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| Azzabuv Quote | Reply | This message was updated on 10/21/2005 4:30:59 PM by Azzabuv | Marlpool Information Request posted on: 10/20/2005 1:45:29 PM I'm searching for information concerning a 'perhaps' Polish person by the name of Ivan. Unfortunately his surname is no longer remembered. He lived in the approximate area of the old 'Cricks' pub, which is now the new pub on the edge of the Park, upto around the early 1990s. This request is aimed primarily at the two men who stopped us by the side of Shipley Pond in the mid-1990s and gave us some information concerning him. If you happen to scroll through these pages today, i would be grateful to receive full information concerning him, especially as to whether he was a Pole by birth, or was 'adopted' by a Polish Family. This also applies to the 'Old Coppice Side' resident who witnessed us cycle by one day. Great amazement all round. If anyone else has any information concerning Ivan, i would greatly appreciate any such information you may have concerning he and his Marlpool Family. Also, does anyone remember another Pole, who, in the late 1960s/early 1970s used to ride about in a small blue van. He obviously collected compasses, as over a dozen, of various sizes, decorated his small cab - hanging from the ceiling, stuck on the windows and doors Etc. He maintained he came from the Marlpool (and Eastwood area?). He was middle-aged at that time and was not 'Ivan'. It may have been his Father? He appeared to be either an electrician or plumber by trade? Azzabuv. |
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Iceboy53
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replied on: 10/20/2005 2:10:52 PM ah ah...welcome back!!!! still don't know though,i ask everrybody in the club,but i came to a dead end with all...sorry azza.and yes my computer is fixed,hard drive went down. |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 10/21/2005 12:42:00 PM Referring to the original Posting two above. If Ivan was 'adopted' by a Polish Family, this would have occurred during late 1939 to mid-1940. Azzabuv. |
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db639
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replied on: 11/8/2005 8:56:25 PM There was a Polish chap living on Coppice Drive in the 50's called Jan Kawolski I think one son was called Ivan , daughter was called Janina . Azzabuv why were people stopping you as you were cycling by I know we are a bit introvert in marlpool so strangers would be gawped at ,but you must have been making funny gestures ,noises or something .It was probably my late father you spoke to on Old Coppice Side , he was always up for a chat Db |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 11/9/2005 1:58:52 PM Nope, not guilty, DB. Here's what led up to my remarks above. I'm searching for a twin i never knew i had, till a few years ago. Since 1968, i've been followed around, on and off, by someone who appears identicle to me in appearance and clothing exactly. There are well over a dozen witnesses to this individual who deliberately makes out that he is i. The witnesses, all unrelated to each other and placed in different years and parts of the Country, all relate the same procedure which he uses. The witnesses range from my Wife, father, work-mates, overman and sundry acquaintances. He always appears driving a vehicle and always blue in colour. This ranges from a small van, car, flat-backed lorry and cycle. He deliberately draws their attention by waving enthusiastically to the witness(es), before travelling on. I myself, have never seen him. On the day in question, in the mid-1990s, by the side of Shipley Pond, my Wife, Daughter and myself were having a pic-nic by the waters edge, a couple of hundred feet or so below the block of toilets there. My Daughter located something or other on the floor near the toilets and shouted me over. It turned out to be nothing in particular and as we walked slowly back towards the Wife, we noticed two elderly male pensioners were talking to her. They'd walked away when we reached her, but kept looking back all the time. They'd asked my Wife who i was. Then said to her - "It's Ivan (surname forgotten now, unfortunately), but it can't be", among several other bits of small talk. At this period in time, i didn't know i had an unknown twin and was definitely put off, again, by hearing something related to that damn 'Doppleganger' activity again. The word - 'Doppleganger' was coined early on, by several work-mates. Who knows? The day we rode up Old Coppice Side, on our bikes, after another visit to the Pond later, we rode slowly (and silently) past a pensioner in his garden, about a third of the way up, on the left, to the main Rd; I honestly thought he was going to have an heart attack. His mouth fell open and he gripped the top of his fence tightly. Nothing was said between us. I just thought - "Oh oh. Not again". I looked back several times and he still stood there following us with his gaze of pure astonishment till we turned on to the main Rd; and disappeared from view. That's what occurred and that's why i'm searching for Marlpool 'Ivan', because i now know i have a missing twin, somewhere. Whether the twin and the 'Doppleganger' are one and the same, we don't know. Thinking of what one of the Pensioner's said - R.E. - "It's Ivan ?, but it can't be", does this mean that Ivan had moved elsewhere or was now dead? Anyway, DB. Thanks for the names you have given me and we'll see what can be made of them and hopefully further light can be shed on this issue. Is the Ivan which you mention, still at Marlpool Etc? Azzabuv. |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 11/9/2005 4:10:40 PM DB. Can you recollect Jan's Wife's name? I know it's a long time ago, apparently, but fingers crossed here. Azzabuv. |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 11/9/2005 4:28:06 PM I've now done a name check, DB. Only one Kawolski shows up in the Country. That's Stuart J. in Kent. There's none in Scotland or N. Ireland. Azzabuv. |
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db639
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replied on: 11/9/2005 5:14:55 PM sorry about that , as you know I have only just joined in the forum so I am not up to date and aware of all the happenings and complications .I think I understand this situation now . I left Marlpool in 1968 , but my parents lived there until they passed away in 2002 /2004 . it is a memory feat to recall all the information I didn't know I had .This forum is so interesting to me but so sad in a way because my old dad would have been able to answer all the questions about recent marlpool, shipley , crick's ,dumbles etc etc.and Ivan ! Anyway as far as I recall the Kawolski children were not adopted. Their name was pronounced Kavolski so I may have got the spelling wrong .I will try to drag out more information but with not much hope . My brother still lives in the area , I will ask him .db |
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db639
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replied on: 11/9/2005 8:58:36 PM I am now thinking that the cul de sac where the Kavolskis lived was called Fredricks Avenue off Roper Avenue opposite Osbornes Pond .sorry db |
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suzard
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replied on: 11/10/2005 10:21:01 AM There are 3 Kowalskis in local telephone directory-Ebenezar St langley Mill, Hardy barn Shipley and Roper Avenue Marlpool-if this is any help? |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 11/10/2005 12:42:39 PM It's unfortunate concerning the demise of your Parents, GB. I'm sure your Father would have been of great benefit information-wise concerning this Society too. Thanks for the information which you provided concerning the Polish Families. As you know, every avenue has to be explored in this game. Perhaps your brother may remember a small nugget of information connected with the search? As for the surname 'Kavolski'. Unfortunately no such name appears in connection with the Country-wide name search. Sue..... R.E. the local 'phone Dir. Are you certain the name is 'Kaw(a)lski and not as DB. originally mentioned 'Kaw(o)lski'? Perhaps with all these 'Skis' being mentioned, i should really be looking for the surname 'Adamski'? Only Jo King..... er..... i hope. Azzabuv. |
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replied on: 11/10/2005 10:14:24 PM The name in telephone directory is as I spellt it in my previous post |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 11/11/2005 11:49:33 AM The Kawalski surname doesn't seem to apply in this instance then. R.E. Kavolski. The Kawalski's seem predominently Lancashire based. Several families there. Azzabuv. |
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replied on: 11/11/2005 1:13:09 PM Azza, I think you'll find the family you are looking for is spellt KOWALSKI. |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 11/11/2005 3:00:30 PM On second thoughts, you may be correct, Sue. I'll hang on to see if DB. has any thoughts R.E. Kawalski. This is beginning to get as convoluted as the missing Hardy's Etc. Azzabuv. |
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db639
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replied on: 11/11/2005 8:11:08 PM I don't know if it is Kaw/volski or Kaw/valski ( why did I think of sgt.Bilko there ?) but I think the eldest son would only be about 58 so I think I may be leading you in the wrong direction . Just another strange thing ,my grandfather was a Hardy .db |
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