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| warren Quote | Reply | This message was updated on 4/25/2006 11:57:43 AM by warren | Parsons, Meakin and Milner families posted on: 4/25/2006 11:56:53 AM Hi. I'm trying to trace my family's connections to Heanor. I have here what looks to be an official extract of records that show my 2x great grandfather, William Braisby Parsons married Emily Meakin in Heanor on 24 Dec. 1881. Emily was born on 9 Mar. 1861 in Heanor to Thomas Meakin and Catherine Milner. From the Taghill transcripts of the St Lawrence Baptism records, I suspect that Emily was baptised on 30 Aug 1863. This also leads me to believe she had four sisters, Mary, Fanny, Ann, Elizabeth, and two brothers, Arthur and Thomas Henry Meakin. I'm trying in particular to trace things back past Thomas and Catherine. Based again on baptism records, I'm working on the theory that Catherine's parents were Thomas and Mary Milner and that they had 4 other daughters, Emma, Eliza, Hannah and Mary. In particular if anyone has any correlating info for the Milner or Meakin connections, that would be helpful to me. Also, anyone who has any connection to the Parsons family in Derbyshire or Leicestershire, I'd appreciate information on them. Thanks! |
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warren
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replied on: 4/26/2006 12:11:06 AM I've had a bit more success tracing William Braisby Parsons in Heanor, I've found the 1881 census lists him at Lee Lane, with two of his brothers, James Henry and Wright Parsons. Judging from death and marriage records, it appears his mother Ellen (nee Bonam, also spelt Bowman) married Henry Thorpe after the death of William B.'s father, James Parsons in 1870. Henry and Ellen Thorpe married in Heanor on 18/2/1871 and had at least two children, Mary Ellen (c1872) and John Thorpe (c1876) Ellen was born in Hoton, Leics, so perhaps someone with a Thorpe connection in Heanor knows more about her? I haven't been able to look into the death of James Parsons yet, but it's possible that he died in an accident as he would have been late 30's, early 40's and was a coal miner. His death was listed at Basford, so I'm not sure if they were living in Heanor at the time. |
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suzard
Researcher Quote | Reply | This message was updated on 4/26/2006 3:41:38 PM by suzard |
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replied on: 4/26/2006 1:55:35 PM Basford reg district covers areas of Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire -Heanor comes under Basford dist. Thomas meakin and Catherine - being the parents of Emily is a little confusing. 1861 census (living at Langley) Thomas and Catherine had a 1 month old daughter who (on the census form) is called Catherine! Maybe they changed their minds about the name??? One of mine from Heanor did!!! or maybe Emily is of different parents??? There is another Emily Meakin(few years younger)-parents John /Elizabeth. I assume the information you have is from IGI-if so you need to research further into it -I have come across many errors on that site in my own research. It would be worth investing in Emily's marriage cert -this should give her father's name. James and Ellen Parsons 1861 had son William age 4 and daughter Sarah age 1 1871 -Ellen now married to Thorpe had folowing Parsons children William b 1857 Woodhouse Eaves Leic, JamesH 1862 Yorks ,Wright 1865 Heanor, Mary 1868 Heanor Possibly Mary died -Death reg Mary Parsons Jun qtr 1871 Basford dist age 3 |
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replied on: 4/26/2006 11:45:54 PM Thomas Meakin is the brother to my great great great grandfather, who is William Meakin. Their parents are Henry Meakin and Fanny West. I also have Emily's parents as Thomas and Catherine. I never knew what Catherine's surname was... Untill now, thanks to you. I couldn't find their marriage at all! I have 12 children for Thomas and Catherine. 9 girls... Mary, Fanny, Ann, Jane, Emily, Catherine, Amanda, Elizabeth and Sarah Ann. And 3 boys... Thomas Henry, Joseph and Arthur. Sadly, Fanny died aged 4 and is buried with her sister, Ann, who died aged 2. Jane also died, she was only 23 months old, she is buried with her brother, Joseph, who died aged 9 months. I have also found it strange that Emily was baptised and she can't be found in the census, yet Catherine can! Very strange indeed. I have a fair amount of info on the Meakin family so if theres any info you would like i'll be more than happy to see if i can help you out with it. Ally |
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warren
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replied on: 4/27/2006 1:39:59 AM Thanks Suz, that helps somewhat. Langley is definitely on the right track, Emily and William's first child was born in Langley Mill. However, I'm a bit skeptical of the 1861 census you're looking at, as that doesn't track with the info in the St Lawrence baptism records. I would have expected more than one child on the census, as baptism records show: Fanny Meakin, bapt. 1854 Ann, bapt. 1856 Mary, bapt. 1860 (aged 10) Emily, bapt. 1863 Perhaps another Thomas and Catherine at Langley? The information I'm working off is a hard copy that came from my grandmother 15+ years ago, I have no reason so far to doubt it is correct and the IGI records match what I have. Add to that the fact that there was an Emily Meakin baptised in 1863 to Thomas and Catherine, i feel like I'm probably on the right track. Nevertheless, I will try and get a copy of the marriage certificate. (Given that I'm on the other side of the world, how do I do that exactly?  )On the Parsons side of things, that does track with what I've managed to scratch up, except for Sarah? Where were they located when the census was taken? I think you're right about Mary though, that's the conclusion I had reached. curiouser and curiouser... |
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warren
Quote | Reply | This message was updated on 4/27/2006 1:59:23 AM by warren |
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replied on: 4/27/2006 1:53:49 AM quote: that would be most excellent, I'll take whatever you have if you want to email anything to me, i can send you my email address in a private message. I should mention that I read your post on the Meakin family and couldn't see any direct links at the time, I may need to revisit it now. |
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suzard
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replied on: 4/27/2006 8:58:36 PM Warren, 1861 census Thomas and Catherine had daughter Mary 10 - as the others died before 861 it looks like that's the family. Also found at Langley 1861 Fanny meakin widow 56 -with adult children and grandchildren - Thomas' mother? Will PM you. |
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warren
Quote | Reply | This message was updated on 4/28/2006 12:31:05 AM by warren |
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replied on: 4/28/2006 12:23:28 AM quote: it certainly does. I realised yesterday that I hadn't checked the date of the 1861 census, so that 1 month old girl, although listed as catherine, certainly sounds like Emily. PM sent by the way. Thanks again edit: Anything in the census on the Milner side of things? The trail is a bit cold from where I sit right now... |
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allyhawk
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replied on: 4/30/2006 10:29:13 AM Hi Warren, sorry for the slow reply, been very busy sorting my mums 50th birthday yesterday. Send me your email address in a PM and i'll see what i can send you. Have you joined Genes Reunited yet? I have a tree on there if you have, which you are very welcome to view. Have you tried using the website www.familyhistoryonline.net? You have to buy credits but it has been really helpful to me, they have a lot of marriages for Heanor St Lawrence on there, aswell as the surrounding areas. And also burial dates and places. I have searched on there and found Emily's marriage to William in 1881 at Aldercar St John. Ally |
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suzard
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replied on: 4/30/2006 10:50:50 AM Warren -did you get the images I sent to you? Catherine not married when daughter Mary born -looks like Mary was baptised twice-first time as Milner! Milner transcribed as Miliner on one census |
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replied on: 5/1/2006 7:10:54 AM Ally: PM sent. suz: Yes, certainly did, just going through and transcribing to my records now. Very helpful thankyou :-) |
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replied on: 5/1/2006 2:24:30 PM Suzard: thats also helped me out, thanks for pointing that out! Still cannot locate Thomas' marriage to Catherine, at least i know it was after 1850 now. Warren: I will email you later on. |
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suzard
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replied on: 5/1/2006 4:25:13 PM www.familyhistoryonline Derbys Registrars Marriage Index Catherine Milner married 1853 Thomas Meakin married 1853 This is a pay per view site- if you pay to look it may link them together? |
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allyhawk
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replied on: 5/1/2006 4:38:07 PM Thanks again Suz... Just done a search and your spot on with that. Thomas Meakin married Catherine Milner in 1853 at Heanor Mount Zion Chapel, never heard of that place before. Anyone know where it is/was? Thats another puzzle solved at last, its been driving me mad trying to find it, they must of updated that site because it wasn't on there the last time i looked. Thanks again, Ally |
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suzard
Researcher Quote | Reply | This message was updated on 5/2/2006 9:16:21 AM by suzard |
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replied on: 5/2/2006 9:12:39 AM If you look on the Society's main page there is some info on Heanor Mount Zion Independant Chapel at Marlpool. www.HeanorHistory.org.uk Look under Marlpool and Langley |
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replied on: 5/3/2006 12:14:37 AM I worry about myself sometimes - I read Allyhawk's query, and thought that I ought to know the answer. Then I read Sue's reply and discovered that I'd previously typed and uploaded the information on the main site.........! (Don't worry - this is a throwaway comment that will self destruct in a few days!) Robert |
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