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| tempus275 Quote | Reply | | HENRY GARNETT posted on: 12/30/2006 8:59:00 PM This is either a question that will spark debate or will be one that gets answered quickly. I keep getting told by people that Henry Garnett was born / lived in one of the houses at the top of the hill by the church - however, with of the 'modernised' old building 'restored' by the Resurrection company, the buildings that look like stables by the residential property and what remains of the shops and residential properties at that erea no-one seems to be able to point to any one building and say "it was that one" Anyone know which one it atually was? RMMee - do you think it would be worth adding to the site a section with "Heanor through the ages" to point where long gone buildings where overlayed on current Heanor - I know that when the School did their history project and the children were asking us questions about the history of the area we had some struggles telling them were some things had been - for example the windmill, the tithe barn, the origional 'eanor Hall, the rectory, the vicarage, the bandstand, the white hart, Langley "Castle", the jubilee fountain, the Dene... and of course Garnett's house. Some of them are still within living memory but I can see days to come when people scratch their head over them as much as we were doing for sites like the Dene and Garnetts house - highly embarresing when both where meant to be a stones throw from the church. |
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RMMee
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HENRY GARNETT
replied on: 12/30/2006 10:53:44 PM Tempus Yes, that's a good idea. (All I need is time!) I have never seen anything to suggest exactly where Garnett was born. Robert |
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Peter Chamberlain
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HENRY GARNETT
replied on: 12/31/2006 9:11:49 AM Garnett or Garnet, Henry (gär'nut) [key], 1555?–1606, English Jesuit. He was converted to Roman Catholicism and in 1575 became a Jesuit. After some years on the Continent he returned as a missionary to England (1586) and became superior of the English Jesuits. He is principally remembered as one of the priests accused of taking part in the Gunpowder Plot. Garnett admitted to knowledge of the plot as confessor to two of the conspirators, was convicted of treason on confusing evidence, and was executed. The Columbia Electronic Encyclopedia, 6th ed. Copyright © 2006, Columbia |
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tempus275
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replied on: 12/31/2006 9:29:12 AM Hmm... the location of the house could be one of the "local legends" then. Found a wonderful one that the church was built in 1111. So far the only reason I can find for the legend is that its an easy date. |
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sherry
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HENRY GARNETT
replied on: 1/5/2007 12:31:00 PM hello, I don't know anything about Henry Garnett, but I think the houses you mean must be where my grandad lived from 1940 to 1967. My two aunts and their families lived in the two terraced houses connnected. I think the houses were pulled down in 1985. My family have lots of happy memories of our times at these houses and we had some loud Christmases there. Grandads house was number 23 Church st, though it was 25 when my grandad and grandma moved there in 1940. When I was tracing the history of the houses I think I can recall seeing the name Garnett on the census page for Church st. I found out it was known as Parliament st I think in 1881. I have a photo of these houses which was just before they were pulled down if you want a copy. Last year I took up painting as a hobby and have done a large painting of it as it might have looked when it was lived in. My Mum and Dad have it on their wall as it reminds them of the 'good old days'. It would have stood opposite the Dene, which I am going to have a go at painting sometime soon. Sherry. |
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tempus275
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replied on: 2/18/2007 8:22:37 PM Further to the website development for the church, we are putting together a map of parts of the parish noting places of note and land / buildings that belonged to the church. Does anyone know when the village tithe barn was demolished - we know it still existed in 1792 but not when it was destroyed. From what I can make out of the map it would be somwhere around the area of the Town Hall / Somerfield. Does anyone know what happened to Hassock Well, as far as I can tell it was approximatly accross the road where the Mundy arms is (down a short path. Sorry it's a bit vague for the locations, I think the map was an enclosure map (for the Ray family) and most of the "landmarks" are ones that have since gone.. |
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RMMee
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replied on: 2/19/2007 5:50:35 AM Tempus I'll get back to you about the barn - may have the answer. I too have a copy of a map which I would date in the 1790's (though there is no date on it, and someone has kindly drawn the Midland Railway on it, in a different pen!). Where did you find your original? Do you have a copy of a schedule to accompany the map, listing the various land owners, etc., or are they listed on the map itself. We may need to compare them at some time, especially if they're not the same! Robert |
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tempus275
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replied on: 2/19/2007 6:26:46 AM The one I have is a photocopy of the one in the library (though there's isn't the origional either). Think yours must be someones copy of that as the one at the library has written at the bottom : "Plan belonging to John Sutton of Heanor Hall - John Ray 1828 See the index to this plan of the index of Heanor and Langley commons 1792." The bit with John Ray is by a different and, presumably he bought the origional off of John Sutton? |
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RMMee
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replied on: 2/19/2007 6:51:12 PM Thing is, ours is on parchment - it cost a fortune to get a copy of it. I believe it to be one of the two (there were normally two) enclosure maps - and Heanor's enclosure was in 1792. Normally one went to the church, which is why I wondered if you had access to an original. I haven't seen the library's copy. |
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tempus275
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replied on: 2/19/2007 8:03:42 PM Lol, anything is possible with our archives, still working on sorting them out - but not seen anything like it so far. Matlock list that they have a Microfilm copy of enclosure award and plans 1792 listed under catalogue number DRO D977. Might be worth seeing if the "award" is the list of the owners from the numbers listed. |
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RMMee
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HENRY GARNETT
replied on: 2/25/2007 9:50:14 AM The Tithe Barn (on the Market Place): The Derby Mercury reported, on 4/12/1861, "a serious fire which totally destroyed the ancient tythe barn owned by Mr Job Turton and seriously threatened a malthouse and other buildings belonging to Mr George Whysall." The present Town Hall was built in 1867 on the site of the burnt-out tithe barn. |
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