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Priestley family for Tony Barber
posted on: 5/15/2007 3:49:03 PM

I am researching into the Priestley family.Gran and Grandad lived at 15 Breach Road Marlpool..He was a miner..John ...wife Maud..John Priestly ( sometimes without the 'e' ) was born in Loscoe..i have some info already but any details please e mail me or put them on here.
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Priestley family for Tony Barber
replied on: 5/15/2007 11:35:59 PM

There are 3 John Priestly's on the 1901 census. What dates are you looking for?

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Priestley family for Tony Barber
replied on: 5/16/2007 7:20:10 PM

got John Priestly b17/06/1883, married Eleanor Maud Wright 29/06/1912..they were living at The Eclipse Inn at time of marriage.
John's Father is Henry Priestley b 1853 collier of Loscoe..he married Selina Green on 25/05/1874...Henry's father is also Henry occupation Twist Hand..i have no details about both Henry's..help on these please..i have traced Selina Greens family..if anyone needs any help please ask

I have John and Eleanor's marriage certificate

I have John's Birth Certificate

I have Henry and Selina's Marriage Certificate

Thanks Cousin Rob
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replied on: 5/17/2007 8:06:37 AM

Mr Beryman then applied for temporary transfer of the licence to the man Priestley, which application, however, was held over until yesterday (Thursday).
Mrs Simms (late landlady) protested on the ground that her husband knew nothing of the new arrangement and pointed out that the reason of the house being closed was because there was no drink for sale. She sold the last pint prior to closing last Saturday. She wired to the brewers to send more drink but they had not done so yet.

In 1904 July, an application was made for Mr Priestley

In 1906 June, The temporary transfer of the license of the Eclipse Inn, Loscoe from the representatives of Henry Priestley (deceased) to Selina Priestley (widow) was granted.
Mr and Mrs Priestley living in Loscoe before taking over the Eclipse, in 1881 on the census Henry Priestley age 28 occupation a coal miner was born at Heanor his wife Selina Priestley aged 24 born at Denby, with siblings Thomas G. Priestley a son aged 8 years a scholar born at Loscoe, Isaac Priestley aged 6 years a scholar born at Loscoe, William a son aged 4 years born at Loscoe, and Herbert a son aged 2 born at Loscoe.

In 1907, May 10th 1907
The Eclipse Loscoe
In applying for the confirmation of a full license for the Eclipse Inn, Loscoe, tenanted by Selina Priestley; Mr. Arthur Barlow, of Nottingham, said that the Eclipse was at the present time a “Beer On” about ninety yards away was the Golden Ball which had a full License, and the justices had suggested that the latter should by referred to the compensation Authority, but that the spirit License should be transferred to the Eclipse. Accordingly application was only being made for compensation in respect of the surrender of the beer license, Police Sergeant Stone having given evidence, the bench decided to confirm the License.

In 1913 July, Final Transfer
The licence of the Eclipse Inn Loscoe was finally transferred from the administrator of the estate of Selina Priestley (deceased) to Wm Lilly of Loscoe Grange
WILLIAM LILLEY LICENCE HOLDER

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Priestley family for Tony Barber
replied on: 5/20/2007 9:40:50 PM

Tonybarber,
could you give details of henry/Selina's marriage cert? Father's names /occupations, witnesses, address they were living at?
Was Henry's father deceased or living at the time of the marriage?
You can PM them to me if you don't want to put it on the site.
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replied on: 5/21/2007 12:43:02 PM

Henry Priestly married Selina Green on may 25th 1874 at The Parish Church in the Parish of Codnor and Loscoe in the county of Derby
Henry was 21 Bachelor, collier, residence Loscoe, father Henry Priestly, occupation, Twist Hand.
Selina was 18, Spinster.no occupation, residence Loscoe, father, William Green, occupation collier.

Witnesses, Josh Waterall and Easter Green ( think this was sister ESTER )

signed by Henry Middleton


Second Marriage Certificate:

John Priestley married Eleanor Maud Wright on 29th June 1912 at The Congregational Church Wharncliffe Road, Ilkeston.

John was 29, batchelor, coal miner, eclipse inn loscoe...father Henry Priestley (deceased) licensed victualler.
Eleanor was 18, spinster, no occupation, eclipse inn loscoe,..father Albert Wright, coal miner

Wittnesses, Samuel Osborne, M.A.Osborne..( poss Mary Ann Wright)

minister Gerard Nicholson
registrar George Shakespeare

Birth Certificate:

John Priestley, born 17th June 1883, Loscoe Derbys,
Father, Henry Priestley, Coal Miner.
Mother, Selina Priestley (formerly Green)
registed 12th July 1883

hope these are of use to any one

...I have got all details now of the Green and Wright lines back to 1800..but still looking for before 1881 on the Henry Priestly line....PRIESTLEY OR PRIESTLY..could also be PRESSLEY i have been told ....if i could get details of Henry's birth i could apply for a birth certificate..

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This message was updated on 5/21/2007 1:58:22 PM by tony barber

Priestley family for Tony Barber
replied on: 5/21/2007 1:32:23 PM

just found some more info....1881 census for Eclipse Inn shows :
William Woolley aged 31, Head, as Butcher/Publican b Denby.
Mary E Wolley aged 27 , Wife, no occupation , b Codnon.

Ann Lilley aged 75, Head, Widow b Bockabough

Richard Priestley aged 41, Head, coal miner b Nottingham,Barton
Mary Priestley, aged 41 , wife, b Gotham
William son unmarried 18 b loscoe
John son unmarried 16 b loscoe
Arthur son 14 b loscoe
George son 12 b loscoe
lucy daug 10 b loscoe
Sarah Daug 7 b loscoe

seems that we had Priestleys living at the Eclipse before Henry and Selena...mmmmmmm

got to look into this a bit deeper me thinks !!

wonder if Richard Priestley was Henry Priestley?

i can understand why they would have moved from Barton to Loscoe....most of the people around Barton and Gotham worked at the Gypsum mines..so mining would be the link.
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This message was updated on 5/21/2007 2:20:42 PM by suzard

Priestley family for Tony Barber
replied on: 5/21/2007 2:18:32 PM

if you have access to 1891 you will note Henry and Selina and family lived at the nook Loscoe and next door to them was Robert Priestly Coal miner 51 b. Notts Barton
We shouldn't post full census details on here due to copyright- but i can put my "version" of the census if you require it.
By the way -Robert has wife mary and same children as Richard of 1881???
Now there's a puzzle!
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This message was updated on 5/21/2007 3:34:11 PM by suzard

Priestley family for Tony Barber
replied on: 5/21/2007 3:10:20 PM

here's a further puzzle
Richard Priestly
1871 he lived in Loscoe with wife Mary-and 7 children (2 youngest twin girls.
I don't think Richard is old enough to be Henry's father

here's where it gets interesting
1861 living in Loscoe
Richard Priestly unmarried 22 Coal Miner b. Barton and
Isaac Priestly unmarried 19 colliery labourer b. Barton
they are both lodgers with
John Wright 26 carpenter b. Dale Abbey, his wife Sarah 29 b. Barton Notts- children HENRY age 8 b Heanor, Eliza M 3 b. Loscoe, Joseph J 5mth b. Loscoe
Now is it possible that Sarah Wright is sister (or sister in law) of Richard and Isaac Priestly??
and the child named as Henry Wright age 8 b. Heanor , was in fact Henry Priestly-and was either born illegit to sarah or the child of Sarah's marriage to Henry priestly.
I haven't found any marriages yet, but there is a 5 year age gap in the children of John/sarah Wright, so it's possible Sarah was married previously??? Or henry is not of the marriage???
1861 next door to them lived Josiah Wright 60 Shoemaker b Loscoe wife Mary and children

So possibly Henry Priestly was named as Henry Wright on census, but he was the nephew of Richard and Isaac Priestly???


Oh what a tangled web I weave!!!!!
I'll weave some more!!!
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This message was updated on 5/21/2007 3:51:27 PM by suzard

Priestley family for Tony Barber
replied on: 5/21/2007 3:37:24 PM

There is this marriage
FreeBMD
Nottingham Jun qtr 1857
on same page
Sarah Priestly
John Wright
7b 261
if this is their marriage -then Henry would be b. before marriage
it's possibly worth sending for this marriage cert or the birth cert of aone of the younger Wright children -that will tell you if Sarah had been married before.

1871 Henry is on census listed as Wright with parents John /Sarah and siblings

John and Sarah are to be found in Heanor (ray St, Wellington St 1881/91/1901
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Priestley family for Tony Barber
replied on: 5/21/2007 3:54:32 PM

he he

1861..richard living at loscoe..he is married..his wife, Mary is living in Gotham at her parents house with her child Mary A aged 1...maiden name SHEPHERD..she is on the 1861 census as Mary Priestley, miners wife..

I think richard and Isaac where brothers and they were staying with their sister sarah..she shows on the census as being born in Barton

1841 census for Barton shows 3 families of Priestley living nigh on next door to each other...i think richards father was William Priestley born 1796 in barton...on the 1841 census..William Priestley married to Mary, daughter SARAH b 1830 ( this is the one they are lodging with after she marries and moves to Loscoe) John son b1835, and richard b1839


STILL CANT FIND A HENRY tho... the plot thickens
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Priestley family for Tony Barber
replied on: 5/21/2007 4:01:54 PM

The other weird thing about all this...My grandad John Priestley married Eleanor Wright..they were living at the Eclipse Inn at time of marriage...we couldnt understand how they met...now we might tie in a relative if Henry Priestley was linked to a Wright earlier
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replied on: 5/21/2007 4:52:25 PM

how about this for a possiblity?

Henry Priestley is the son of Sarah Priestly ( sarah is sister of Richard and Isaac (other siblings of Sarah are possibly William, John (married Charlotte and lived loscoe), Rebecca,Ann).
Sarah had son Henry -possibly his father's name was henry -but doesn't look like sarah married henry's father.
Sarah then married John Wright and had more children.
Henry was names as henry Wright on 1861/71 census -but couldn't have been registered as Wright, as Mum didn't marry John Wright until a few years after Henry's birth?????
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This message was updated on 5/21/2007 8:27:29 PM by tony barber

Priestley family for Tony Barber
replied on: 5/21/2007 7:21:31 PM

possible..found Sarah on 1851 census aged 20 living at Barton.as a servant on a farm owned by Sarah WRIGHT....be good if there was a John Wright living there but there isn't...william and thomas...but no john..or henry

Also on 1861 census shows Henry as being born in Heanor...but 1871 says Greenhill Lane....be nice if i could find Henry's birth details...could send away for the birth certificate
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This message was updated on 5/21/2007 11:55:43 PM by suzard

Priestley family for Tony Barber
replied on: 5/21/2007 11:50:48 PM

1851 john Wright was living at Dale Abbey on a farm -head of household was Joseph Wright 24 farmer - living with him were his brothers and sisters : Hannah 26, William 18, JOHN 15
Henry 14
and visiting was William Wright 48 b Ilkeston.
If the marriage is correct -John Wright and Sarah Priestly didn't marry until 1857 -so Henry is probably reg in the name of Henry Priestly
1871 they are living next door but 3 to the Eclipse Inn- it's the only census where henry is b. greenhills lane, but it's not far from Heanor!
Can't find a birth reg though??
Wonder if we can find a connection between the Wrights in Barton and the Wrights in Dale Abbey???
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replied on: 6/14/2007 2:02:28 PM

could this be the same family that you are looking for?

15th Feb, 1918 Ripley & Heanor News
Fatal fall in the Street At Loscoe
Coroner’s Inquiry
The second inquest at Loscoe on Monday was on the body of Mary Priestley, widow, aged 77 years, of Loscoe, who fell down in the street on Saturday morning last, and died the same day.
Annie Priestley, wife of John Priestley, Loscoe Road, Heanor, identified the body as that of her mother-in-law, widow of the late Richard Priestley. Deceased was pretty active for her age, and never complained of being unwell.
Eliza Mills, residing on the Heanor Road, Loscoe, said she lived near to the deceased, and kept a grocer’s shop, and on Saturday morning about 11.30 she looked out and saw deceased lying on the footpath near her own doorstep. “Witness picked her up and asked what she had done, but she could only answer “Oh, dear.” Some groceries were on the road, which was rather stony where deceased fell.
Dr. Thomson (Codnor) said he was passing through the village about 1.45 p.m. when they stopped him. Deceased was dead. A little blood was oozing from the mouth and there was a bruise on the base of the skull. Witness had attended deceased for bronchitis some months ago. She must have fallen on something sharp.
A verdict of “Accidental death” was returned.
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