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Codnor Castle
posted on: 9/7/2007 6:39:48 AM

Down here in the colonies on abc tv we get a program called Time Team,I understand they are going to do a dig at Codnor Castle.

When we were kids, during the long summer hollidays we would ride our bikes along the canal to Stoneyford, then up to the castle.

There was supposed to be treasure buried there, but we never found any, got chased off a couple of times by a farmer though.

Lets hope the Time Team have better luck, I look forward to seeing what they find
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Codnor Castle
replied on: 9/7/2007 5:46:50 PM

Bill

The dig has been dug. They found loads, and the programme will be aired (in the UK) early in the new year - probably later down there!

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Codnor Castle
replied on: 10/10/2007 7:11:04 AM

Have a look on the UK TV Channel 4 site. There is a Time Team section with details of the work at Codnor Castle. Using the pop down menus at the top of the page enter the Time Team forum. There are threads on this topic with links to a couple of pages with more details on the Derby Evening Telegraph web site.

I found the info easily but I do have a link to the Time Team main page.

regards Phil
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Codnor Castle
replied on: 12/28/2007 7:38:37 PM

The Codnor Castle dig is the first of the new series (for those who pick up UK TV). Channel 4 on Sunday 6/1/08 at 5.45pm. Entitled The Gold in the Moat!
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replied on: 1/7/2008 8:36:33 AM

The Program was excellent and was praised by the presenter for the amazing amount of information found
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Codnor Castle
replied on: 1/7/2008 5:37:03 PM

I agree with Peter , it was an excellent program .Codnor castle complete with drawbridge and moat and then finding a large gold coin in such good condition dating from the 15th c. wow!
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Codnor Castle
replied on: 1/13/2008 1:19:13 PM

after watching the codnor castle on time team.i was wondering if anyone know's if they left the all the work they uncovered like that so people can see it...
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Codnor Castle
replied on: 1/13/2008 3:38:50 PM

Traces of Time Team Dig
In October 2007, I walked along the footpath that runs to the north of Codnor Castle. Surprisingly, after such a short time, there was no obvious evidence that Phil Harding ever opened a trench there, in the north court. No idea whether there are any digging traces visible in the area of the drawbridge.

Conservation work was continuing on the existing walls with lots of new scaffolding and quantities of building material stored there. The whole area was surrounded by mesh-fencing - the sort of stuff you would expect round any building site these days.

There may be plans to carry out more investigations in the area see http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/tpa/research/project6/index.htm
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Codnor Castle
replied on: 1/14/2008 10:51:11 AM

though they would have left the finds exposed for all to see..be a pity if it's all forgotten and left to rot again after the time team publicity it had in 2007.or maybe the coal company just did a pr job on it to make em look good.
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Codnor Castle
replied on: 1/14/2008 5:05:46 PM

Unless there are concrete plans to open archaeological digs to the public, the standard practice is always that you cover the dig up at the end of it, sometimes putting a membrane down so that future digs know where the previous dig stopped.

When my daughter was helping on a dig at a Roman site in Normandy last summer, she was quite excited to find a 150 year old trowel at the bottom of a pit. This was the sign that anything else would be a new find.

As for UK Coal doing a PR job... well, the work done to get Time Team there in the first place was all done by the Codnor Castle Preservation Society (of which I am a Committee Member). We work with UK Coal, but have frequently not seen eye to eye with them. It was certainly not UK Coal that sought to have the programme made. That said, I am sure that they will make the most of the publicity!

We are hoping that there will be another dig at the site this summer, and I can assure you that the dig will be totally covered up at the end of it.

Codnor Castle has far more now to see than it has for decades - the work being done by UK Coal has meant that a lot of the vegetation has been cut back or removed - go see it, it will astound you!
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replied on: 8/27/2008 12:36:42 PM

Codnor Castle

1854 Ilkeston Pioneer

A tradition is still current in the neighbourhood that the last of the Zouches, possessors of Codnor Castle, died of want. Mullen, in his Cottager’s Sabbath, has so beautifully described this circumstance as well as the present state of the noble ruin that it seems not amiss to introduce his lines here:


The mournful breeze sighs through Codnor Hall,

Where nettles wild in broken casements grow,

Through long wide cracks the scattered moonbeams fall,

And rustling weeds wave idly to and fro,

O’er broken floors and gaping vaults below,

On roofless walls portentous ruin scowls;

For there the fox through each apartment prowls,

Disturbing as he creeps the dreams of sleeping owls.



White hoary moss is coated on the wall,

Dark by waves in beauty’s broken bower;

Disjointed stones from sinking arches fall,

The wide hall chimney, open to the showers,

More dreary looks than desolate tower.

Mid long dark, weeds the aged thistle grows,

Where once the “Lady’s Garden” used to flower;

Where still is seen a weak and sickly rose,

That o’er the ruined waste a faded beauty throws.



Uncounted leaves fill up the choking moat

Where fallen beams and broken columns lie;

With scattered fragments of a rotten boat,

Confusedly mixed, chaotic to the eye,

Part standing quite erect, but more awry.

The massy gates like skeletons appear,

Whose crumbling dust their outward look belie,

While gateways dark sepulchral terrors wear,

And all about the place is silent, sad and drear.



How changed the scene, since first Lord Thomas brought

His youthful bride to grace his father’s halls!

When bannered knights and bright-eyed ladies sought

The festive joys that sparkled in these walls,

In ceaseless rounds of masquerades and balls.

The newborn days successive pleasures bring,

To join the chase the shrilly bugle calls,

Or minstrel’s gay their merry roundels sing

And loud obstreperous mirth makes a roof and rafters ring.



Month rolled on month, and years on years were piled

Without abatement of that tide of joy;

Around their path the rosy moments smiled,

No cloud arose their sunshine to destroy,

Or accident befell that might annoy.

Wealth, honour, state and pleasure at command,

A thousand menials toiled in his employ,

O'er hill and dale his wide domains expand,

'Twould take a summer's day to ride across his land.



What ails Lord Thomas? Gloomy, dark, severe;

By fits he starts or hurries up and down;

Now stops to gaze, his wild eyes full of fear,

Then staring forth, he darts an angry frown

Or laughs in scorn his inward fears to drown.

What ails Lord Thomas? once so blythe and gay,

So rich, so great, so full of fair renown?

Alas! for him the passion rose for play,

And now the fatal dice have thrown his lands away.



Where hides he now? Rude strangers claim his Hall;

His wife hath sickened like a blighted flower,

Those summer friends unmoved behold his fall,

Who hung about him in his day of power;

And now assist his substance to devour.

Where hides he now? Behold yon roofless shed

To storms exposed and soaking with shower,

There may you see the great Lord Thomas dead,

Whose famished looks declare, he DIED FOR WANT OF BREAD!

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