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Wonderful Names from the past
posted on: 12/26/2007 1:51:53 PM

Whilst researching my family tree I have come accross some wonderful names around the Heanor distict :-
CHRISTMAS JOSEPH WEBSTER, born xmas day 1872,lived on Station Rd Langley Mill, Sunday school teacher at Baptist chapel before emigrating to USA in 1894.
HARDWICK EWEN FLINTOFF, born 1882, lived on Dean St Langley Mill. His great grandfather William Flintoff was a Canal Toll Collecter and lived a few doors away from the Navigation Inn.
EBERNEZER OLDKNOW, born 1825, lived on Heanor Common
loomis




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replied on: 12/26/2007 6:17:49 PM

I (and around half of the contributors to this site) have the splendid GERVASE PEPPERDAY as an ancestor. (Married at St Lawrence Church, Heanor.in 1803, died in 1831 and buried as above).

Jenks




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replied on: 12/26/2007 8:15:03 PM

Hi Loomis,

That will take some beating, I thought that I had a link at first with AGUILLA PEPPERDINE, but that was cheating because he was from Lincolnshire.
I nearly forgot about ONESIMUS BROWN and his brothers, I am connected to them through the Gills.
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replied on: 12/27/2007 8:14:23 AM

Loomis...

I'm related to Gervase

I wonder why so many are related to him?

I personally know half a dozen relatives!
loomis




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replied on: 12/27/2007 3:53:02 PM

Porkpiebaby, being descended from GERVASE PEPPERDAY you will also have as a relative the equally splendidly named WINSOME BACON. Sounds like she won the meat raffle! Incidentally, her middle name was MERCIA.
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replied on: 12/27/2007 4:18:07 PM

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Hi Loomis,

That will take some beating, I thought that I had a link at first with AGUILLA PEPPERDINE, but that was cheating because he was from Lincolnshire.
I nearly forgot about ONESIMUS BROWN and his brothers, I am connected to them through the Gills.


Hi Jenks,

You probably do have a link, as PEPPERDINE is the Lincolnshire version of PEPPERDAY. It reflects the nasal dialect of that and the East Anglia region.

Other derivatives locally are PEBERDY and PEABODY, although I have found 14 different spellings of the surname in my family tree. One poor soul had a different spelling on each of his Baptism, Marriage, and Death certificates!
Jenks




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replied on: 12/27/2007 7:56:57 PM

You could be right there loomis with the Pepperdine / Pepperday, all of those different spellings remind me of the Bircumshaw's I seem to find in every local family line, and each time it's spelt differently.
loomis




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replied on: 12/27/2007 9:05:16 PM

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You could be right there loomis with the Pepperdine / Pepperday, all of those different spellings remind me of the Bircumshaw's I seem to find in every local family line, and each time it's spelt differently.


My 4 x g.grandmother was MARY BIRKUMSHIRE, whose daughter Ellen (Slack) married GERVASE PEPPERDAY. (Here we go again)!! I find the same results as yourself with the many variations of the surname we now usually spell BIRCUMSHAW.

Most people were illiterate in those days,and unable to spell, so their name would be recorded as pronounced.
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replied on: 12/28/2007 9:02:39 AM

Loomis...Mary Birkumshire was my 5x g grandmother!

Ellen was my 4x great grandma, but by her illigitimate daughter Hannah Slack, not by one of the Pepperdays!

loomis




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replied on: 12/28/2007 10:13:52 AM

Therefore.......... WINSOME BACON is both your 4th half-cousin once removed, and your 5th full cousin twice removed!!
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replied on: 12/28/2007 10:27:35 AM

Thanks Loomis...I haven't got any Bacons...YET!

porkpiebaby




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replied on: 12/28/2007 10:28:00 AM

And what does that make us to each other?!
loomis




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replied on: 12/28/2007 10:59:05 AM

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And what does that make us to each other?!


We have a similar relationship, i.e. 4th half-cousins once removed and 5th full cousins once removed. My last post was inaccurate as I said TWICE removed instead of ONCE in respect of your 5th cousinship.

Of course, it is possible that Gervase WAS the biological father of Hannah Slack, and subsequently made an honest woman of Ellen after she gave birth to Hannah.

Gervase's granddaughter Sarah b. 1831 married Joseph Bacon b.1827.

We are in contact through G.R., a look at Anna's tree will give you all the Bacon bits.
porkpiebaby




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replied on: 12/28/2007 12:27:19 PM

I haven't got a Sarah as his daughter...will have to swap details some time!!!
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replied on: 12/28/2007 3:33:01 PM

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I haven't got a Sarah as his daughter...will have to swap details some time!!!

ppb,

Sarah was Gervase's GRANDDAUGHTER, the son of Joseph b.1803
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replied on: 12/28/2007 8:19:28 PM

I remember m'dad talking about Prince Gillott ,I found his name today whilst looking for my Granma Gillott's family - Prince Albert Gillott .
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