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| RMMee Moderator Quote | Reply | | Hunt / Moon / Shaw / Browne / Cheetam posted on: 2/23/2008 9:14:55 PM A query from Oregon, USA - any answers or comments will be gratefully received and passed on. The correspondent is hoping to be over here in a few weeks. "Today I received copies of letters written to my grandmother, Nellie Elida HUNT Collings (1883-1961)in Idaho from her second cousin, Ellen "Nellie" MOON Shaw (1880-1954). These letters were written in the late 1940's and early 1950's from Challen House, 76 Fletcher Street, Heanor, Derbyshire. I would like to get in touch with any descendants of hers and her husband, Enoch SHAW. They had a daughter Dorothy Edna SHAW born maybe in 1910, who married a man called Rowland (surname not known). Let me know if you know of anyone who can help me locate members of that family. Also some of my family originated in Heanor. Thomas Browne was christened 11 Oct 1668 in Heanor. His parents both died there: Henry BROWNE d.7 May 1702 and Joane CHEETAM Browne d.25 Jan 1706." |
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Jennypeg
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replied on: 2/24/2008 9:22:38 AM 3rd June 1960 Ripley & Heanor News DEATH OF VETERAN HEANOR MUSICIAN Mr Enoch Shaw An old and respected resident of Heanor passed away on Thursday, in the person of Mr Enoch Shaw, at the residence of his daughter, Mrs D. E. Bamber. He was in his 88th year. In former years Mr Shaw was a well-known figure in local musical circles, and his outstanding ability as a violinist endeared him to audiences for many miles around His efforts in connection with the concerts given by the former Heanor Choral Union were continued for many years, and the success of the concerts was in no small measure due to his meticulous execution of the exacting orchestral parts involved. As a theatre player he led the orchestra at Heanor Empire for 23 years until the coming of “Talkies” caused it to be disbanded. A further facet of his career was as leader of the augmented orchestra, which accompanied the Savoy Opera production of the late Heanor Amateur Operatic Society in which capacity he gave pleasure to many hundreds of listeners, and earned high praise from the professional musicians who produced the operas. Mr Shaw was a popular soloist and performed at many important social functions over a large area. His wide and varied activities also included orchestral work at seaside resorts and theatres, whilst no church or chapel anniversary was complete without his presence. Many former pupils will remember his prowess as a teacher, which brought out the best to those of high musical ability, whilst allowing those of lesser gifts to taste some degree of pleasure, which they might never have otherwise attained. Yet a further aspect of his work was his part in a string Quartette, which gave classical recitals for some years. The interment took place on Monday, at Marlpool Cemetery, the service in the Chapel and the last rites at the graveside being conducted by the Rev. Philip du Feu Minister of Heanor Wesley Church. daughter's married name Bamber? |
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suzard
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replied on: 2/24/2008 2:08:10 PM If Dorothy Edna did marry a Mr Bamber - Bamber is not a common name in the Heanor area - so there may be more possibilities of finding a connection through the Bamber name. Harry Bamber was head boy at HGS in 1941 -who knows maybe a connection -and my friend thinks he became a school teacher in the local area. There are only 2 Bambers living in Heanor listed in the local telephone directory |
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replied on: 2/24/2008 3:46:46 PM Thank you so much for the death notice for Enoch Shaw. There was mention in one of the letters about his musical activities. If anyone would like to read a sampling of the letters written in 1946, 1947, 1948 and 1951, how would I go about posting them? Sharon in Oregon |
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replied on: 2/24/2008 3:48:07 PM Hi, I will look them up when I get there. Thank you for the information. |
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replied on: 2/24/2008 4:43:17 PM The name Enoch Shaw didn't click when I typed up Sharon's enquiry, but he used to teach the violin at Heanor Technical School in the early days (around 1907). Welcome to the site Sharon. Posting pictures, etc., is really not easy. There is an explanation as to how to do it here. |
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Jennypeg
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replied on: 2/24/2008 6:44:53 PM The architect for Heanor Welfare was a Mr. Fred Bamber, Marlpool Cemetery Memorials J 60 To the memory of William Rowland Bamber died Dec 11 1964 and Selina Lilian Bamber died July 11 1973. Also 1925 By Mr Thomas Bamber Heanor valuable business premises in the town centre five freehold dwelling houses and sale-shops, to be sold by auction by Mr Thomas Bamber. |
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suzard
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replied on: 2/25/2008 1:29:01 AM Death reg William Rowland Bamber shows his age as 77 Birth reg Mar qtr 1887 basford district Death reg Selina Lilian Bamber b. 10 Feb 1894 died Sept 1973 Ilkeston district It seems Selina Lilian was William Rowlands sister and never married. Wonder if Fred Bamber architect of heanor Welfare was in fact John F Bamber and brother of William Rowland? Birth reg John Frederick Bamber Sept qtr 1889 basford district Looks like they possibly used their middle names The Bamber name is most common in Lincolnshire-but this looks like William Rowland Bamber 1901 41 Derby Rd Heanor Thomas Bamber Head M 48 Auctineer born Hogsthorpe Lincs Selina A wife 40 b.Heanor Derbys Mary C 19 Helena M 17 SELINA L 15 WILLIAM R 14 John F 11 George W Smith Nephew 3 Ilkeston Derbys all Bamber children b. Heanor Derbys There is a marriage Jun qtr Basford district 1913 William R Bamber to Annie E Ward. There is a birth William R Bamber mothers maiden name Ward Dec qtr 1914 Basford could this be the "Rowland" who married Dorothy? and this is possibly his death William Rowland Bamber b. 10 Nov 1914 died Nov 1994 age 80 Tameside Greater manchester A45A 211 and Dorothys marriage Mar qtr 1939 Ilkeston district Dorothy E Shaw William R Bamber will mail you with information about the living |
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replied on: 2/25/2008 2:39:42 AM I have e mailed you through this site -but am not sure if mail facility is working -please let me know if you don't receive it and I will PM you Suz |
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replied on: 2/25/2008 3:12:37 AM re the Fletcher St address Amber Valley Planning Board meeting -updated 16 Nov 2007 "Erection of 3 dwellings at land to rear of 76-80 Fletcher St Newlands Heanor Derbys |
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Peter Chamberlain
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replied on: 2/25/2008 11:44:48 AM Could this be Thomas bn 1853 and Selina bn 1861s Marriage View Record Name Year of Registration Quarter of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image View Record Preview Name: Thomas Bamber Year of Registration: 1881 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Basford County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Take a look at the picture to see even more. See more Thomas Bamber 1881 Jul-Aug-Sep Basford Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire View Record William Booth 1881 Jul-Aug-Sep Basford Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire View Record Anne Eaton 1881 Jul-Aug-Sep Basford Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire View Record Selina Ann Smith 1881 Jul-Aug-Sep Basford Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire |
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replied on: 2/25/2008 4:02:06 PM Hi, I didn't receive an email through the list. I haven't sent any through the list yet, but will try soon. Got to go pack. We aren't sure when we will be leaving March 4th or 10th. We will stay in London for a few days working the repositories there and then on to Derbyshire. Thanks to all who have sent information. I will sort it all out and see how it fits. Sharon in rainy Oregon |
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suzard
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replied on: 2/25/2008 6:50:29 PM I will send a message to your Mailbox -that facility is working Suz |
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paulr
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replied on: 2/25/2008 10:41:36 PM Suz There used to be a Moon family live round the back of the puzzle when I lived in Langley Mill 1941-1955 Jack Moon worked for Frank Sisson as a builders labourer. There was also a Mr&Mrs Bamber lived on Edward Street in between Les Osbournes and Bill Walkers, they used to ride a tandem and later upgraded to a Messerschmitt Bubble car. paulr |
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replied on: 2/25/2008 11:52:22 PM The tandem fits right in. Nellie mentioned that her daughter and son-in-law rode a tandem bike. April 14, 1946 "...Dorothy Edna and here husband have just set off for (Langley Mill) their home on their tandem cycle; Little Frankie has also just left us for home and bed, he celebrated his 9th birthday recently. Many thanks for stamps you sent him." I don't know who Frankie is. Also "We have had Jack Brown from Breach Cottage for tea, my youngest sister's son. He is 18 and works down the mine as an electrician." Thank you for little pieces and big pieces to the puzzle. Sharon |
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Jennypeg
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replied on: 2/26/2008 12:21:40 PM Heanor Observer Jan 26th 939 Bamber + Shaw At Ilkeston Registry office on Saturday January 21st 1939 Miss Dorothy Edna Shaw, only daughter of Mr and Mrs Enoch Shaw of “Challen House” 76 Fletcher St Heanor to Mr William Rowland Bamber, eldest son of Mr and Mrs William Rowland Bamber 3 Broadway Heanor. 17th Dec 1964 Death of Heanor Resident Mr W. R. Bamber The death took place on Friday morning at his home, Wilmot St Heanor of Mr William Rowland Bamber who was highly esteemed by a large number of residents in the area. Mr Bamber was born in Heanor 77 years ago and was the last surviving member of a one-time well known business concern, namely Thomas Bamber and Sons, Architects and Surveyors, which had connections with the town over a very long period before retirement two years ago, he was the Chief Lace draughtsman at the factory of Messrs J. K. Fletchers and sons of Heanor. In his 50 odd years service there he won the high esteem of management and employees, and in his retirement his advice on technical problems was often sought. He was a valuable official whose advice and genial personality will be much missed. His hobby in his early day’s was landscape painting and he wrote many poems of Derbyshire in the dialect of the county some of which were read at the Heanor Literary Society, whose members praised his talent in that sphere. Miss Teresa Hooley, the Derbyshire poetess, highly commended his poems and suggested that they should be inserted in the magazine “The Derbyshire Countryside”. He was a lover of good music and his quiet and retiring disposition endeared him to many people. Mr Bamber was a well read man in the history of the district, which in his younger days he travelled and often walked 40 miles in one day into the heart of the country he loved Derbyshire. Cremation took place on Monday at Markeaton Crematorium Derby conducted by the Rev. H. B. Roberts (vicar). Mourners were: Mrs S. L. Bamber widow; Mr Rowland Bamber son; Mr and Mrs F. Bryan and Mrs T. Holcroft, Mr G. E. White, Mr and Mrs Tom Bamber, Mr and Mrs George Bamber, Miss Lena Bamber, Lt Col and Mrs W. Stubbs, Mr and Mrs G. Smith (Belper), Mr and Mrs Maljon (Nottingham), Miss Crowther (Sheffield), and the Rev. P. Foley. Representatives of Messrs G. H. Fletcher and Sons Ltd Heanor included Mr Leslie Fletcher, Mr G Fletcher, Mr J. Fletcher Mr J. Stapleton, Mr W. Woodhouse and Mr E. Pettifer. The one floral tribute was from the widow who has asked that instead of floral tokens donations should be sent for Oxfam. |
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