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| RMMee Moderator Quote | Reply | | White's Mill posted on: 3/2/2008 8:00:22 AM A little query: Does anyone have any knowledge of "the White family of Heanor. Joseph White had a mill there in 1823."? |
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Peter Chamberlain
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replied on: 3/2/2008 9:03:46 AM A Joseph White appears in the 1841 census age 51 living with his Wife Jane on Ilkeston Road Marlpool he is described as a retired Farmer.Pigotts directory 1828/29 only shows one Miller in Heanor a Samuel Abbott |
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RMMee
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replied on: 3/2/2008 11:05:44 AM The one mill I know of was the one at Marlpool, so I suppose his address is promising in that respect. |
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RMMee
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replied on: 3/3/2008 6:37:44 AM Additional information from the enquirer: "Samuel White came from Loscoe and owned a farm called Mirey Leys." So, we're not looking at the Marlpool mill, but rather one at Loscoe. |
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Peter Chamberlain
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replied on: 3/3/2008 11:18:03 AM 1841c Samuel White Head Farmer Mirey Lees 1851c George J White 13 Bn Loscoe son Mary White 49 Bn Muggington Wife Samuel White 56 Bn Loscoe Head Farmer 90 Acres Address given as Mirey Leys Enumerators Walk 49 Denby Lane 50 Mirey Leys 51 Breach Farm Samuel also appears 1861c at Mirey Leys with a son William 1837 bn Loscoe and this William is head unmarried at Mirey Leys in 1871c and Head in 1881c |
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Jennypeg
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replied on: 3/3/2008 2:37:55 PM Ripley Advertiser 1864 September 24th 1864 Trespassing in Pursuit of Game: James Christopher Royston, farmer, and Henry Brown, both of the township of Codnor and Loscoe, were charged by Francis Wilson, gamekeeper, with having on Saturday, the 10th inst, trespassing on land in possession of Samuel White. Francis Wilson said that he was gamekeeper to Mr William Jessop of Butterley Hall. On the 10th inst, between three and four o’clock in the afternoon, he and Mr John Jessop were shooting at Loscoe on a farm belonging to Mr Samuel White. They saw a man beating a stubble field three or four minutes with a dog, and then go into a grass field. He and Mr Jessop sent markers after him to see who he was, he and Mr Jessop following. The markers found he was Mr Royston’s gamekeeper, and when he, in company with Mr Jessop, came up to them and him he told the latter he should summons him, but made no remark, Mr Smith solicitor, Derby, who appeared for the defendant, cross-examined the witness, who said that Brown got into Mr George Wolley’s field, where Mr Royston was, after he came out of that of Mr White’s. Mr Woolley’s land adjoined that of Mr White’s, by the bench neither Mr Royston nor his servant had a right to be on Mr White’s land. It was his land he saw Brown, but not Mr Royston. George Prince said he was a collier, and worked under the Butterley Company, he was assisting Mr Jessop between three and four o’clock on the 10th of this month. He saw Mr Royston standing gun in hand, with his back against a tree in Mr White’s field, and he also saw Brown beating the stubble of the same field with a dog for about ten minutes. The former could see the latter. He (witness) asked Mr Royston what he was doing there and he replied he was hunting a wounded bird, Francis Thorpe said he was on Mr White’s farm watching the game, accompanied by Wilson and Mr Jessop. They saw Mr Royston’s keeper beating with a dog in Mr. White’s stubble field for five minutes he and Prince saw Royston with a gun in a shooting position. Cross-examined He never saw Mr Royston in the stubble field, but he saw his man beating, William White said he was the son of Samuel White, the owner of the stubble field, and was with Mr Jessop inst Saturday week. He saw Mr Royston’s man beating the field with a dog. Mr Smith then called for the defence Mr George Woolley who said he was in company with Mr Royston on the day in question from twelve till two o’clock, when he went to dinner. He did not see Mr Royston in Mr White’s land, but saw him standing under a tree in his (witness’s) Mr Royston had the right of shooting over witness’s land. If he had been in Mr White’s field he (witness) should have seen about twelve o’clock Mr Royston shot at nine birds, seven went down on his ground one towards Mr Whites stubble field, and one was picked up by him. He supposed that the bird that went in the direction of the stubble field was wounded. After his dinner he heard the crying of this bird, and also heard Mr Royston tell Brown to go into the field, and look for the bird. Brown did so, and took a spaniel dog with him. Witness was close to Mr Royston when he told Brown to go for the bird. There were no other witnesses called, and the magistrates after a short consultation, dismissed the case. |
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KarenB
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replied on: 4/5/2008 6:31:02 PM I am seeking information about and photos of (if they exist) Mirey Leys farm. I believe it was owned by the White family at one time and that Samuel White inherited it from his father Joseph White around 1833. I am also seeking general information about this particular White family. Any help is greatly appreciated. Best regards, Karen B |
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RMMee
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replied on: 4/5/2008 11:52:27 PM From Jennypeg I think this is the farm Karen is looking for, it is on Loscoe Denby lane just above Grammer St on the right hand side just on the Loscoe / Denby boundary 
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Jennypeg
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replied on: 4/6/2008 8:45:25 AM sorry the farm is on the lefthand side Breach Farm on the right. Jenny |
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KarenB
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replied on: 4/7/2008 12:59:16 AM Hi Jennypeg, Thanks so much for the picture of the farm that was formerly Mirey Leys. I am sure it is named something else by now. It's the stories and the photos that makes genealogy researching come alive and gives a little insight into what their lives must have been like. My paternal grandmother Violet Ida White (dob 1897) immigrated to Canada in 1905 with her parents John Marriott White and Emma Brown and 2 sisters and never spoke much about family and friends back in England. Each photo or interesting story just rounds out the whole picture giving life to the statistical numbers and facts in census reports. Again, thank you ... Karen |
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KarenB
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replied on: 4/8/2008 9:37:49 AM Re a White's Mill in Loscoe operated by Joseph White. I have a copy of an ad that was printed in December 1825 to advertise the sale of "A Capital Farm and Water Corn Mill at Loscoe". The ad goes on to say that the farm and mill were to be sold by auction at the house of Mr. William Burn, the George Inn in Alfreton at 4:00 p.m. on January 20, 1826. The property was described as a "valuable and compact Freehold Estate situated at Loscoe in the parish of Heanor in the county of Derby in the possession of Mr. Joseph White consisting of a good farm house and out buildings with a well accustomed water corn mill and upwards of 70 acres of land in a ring fence and adjoining the road from Codnar to Heanor viz. The tenant will shew the premises and for further particulars apply at the office of Mr. Charge, Solicitor in Chesterfield or to Mr. Wilson, Solicitor, in Alfreton where a plan of the estate may be seen." Karen B |
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