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Owd 'Eanor Place names.
posted on: 1/24/2009 5:39:31 PM

I suspect this one may have come up in bits and bobs previously, but I found an article from a 80 year old lady writing in the 1930 about her memories of Heanors past.

In part of it she refers to most of Heanor not having Road names but place names.

She lists :

Tag Hill
The City
Kingstown
Peacock Town
Back Lane
Boggart Town
Camomile Row
Nackey Row
Hard Meadow
Wood end
Wood Yard
Tan Yard
The Rookery
Red Hill
Work-House Yard
Eggleshaw’s Row
Burtons’ Row
Nigger Row
North Row
Nook End
Apsey Sic
Chain Row
The Alma
Fishponds
Coach Road
Barrack Yard
Providence Place
Sye Lane
New America

I've been working on where building in Heanor were through the history of the town and trying to match them up to maps of Heanor (a long term project) but the majority of these I have never heard of.

Tag Hill - I believe is the part of Heanor that the Jolly Colliers is located in (is that right?)

Sye Lane - is the old name for Ilkeston Road (but I believe only from Church Square to where the Library is) (historical side note, she lists that by the side of the road where now the entrance to the Library stands, there was a pond, open at the end, where horses could go for a drink, or carts be washed. There was another pond inside the hedge a little further on.)

New America was the name given to the triangle – Wellington Street and Watkinson Street and Loscoe Road

Anyone any ideas where they all the rest were?
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Owd 'Eanor Place names.
replied on: 1/24/2009 9:53:12 PM

Nigger Row was the top end of Burnthouse Road.

Sue
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Owd 'Eanor Place names.
replied on: 1/24/2009 9:54:45 PM

Nookend is still there, although I believe it used to curve all the way round back to Derby Road near the Jolly Colliers
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Owd 'Eanor Place names.
replied on: 1/24/2009 9:59:23 PM

The Alma was set back off Abbotts Street at the Derby Road end.

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Owd 'Eanor Place names.
replied on: 1/24/2009 10:00:16 PM

Look on the main website - http://www.heanorhistory.org.uk/forgottennames.htm - for locations and explanations of some of the others.
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Owd 'Eanor Place names.
replied on: 1/25/2009 7:47:34 AM

Burton's Row was off what is now the Market Place, on the same side as the church.

The Rookery was at Milnhay.

I think there's only a couple of them that we would struggle to give a location to.
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Owd 'Eanor Place names.
replied on: 1/25/2009 9:36:27 PM

I used to walk home to Marlpool from Loscoe Road school and I used to call at my auntie's on Kingsway then up the hill and turn right up a walled jitty at the top which used to then come on to Derby Road at the side of the colliers I think we used to call this the nook or nook end .
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Owd 'Eanor Place names.
replied on: 1/25/2009 11:44:18 PM

Derek,

I'm pretty sure that the Jitty you mentioned did lead to and from Nook End, not sure if the jitty was named the same.
I remember a lady down there in the 1950's winning £100 on the pools. They were rich beyond their dreams.

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Owd 'Eanor Place names.
replied on: 1/26/2009 4:16:06 AM

if you go through the topics in Heanor Forum you will find many of these places mentioned kingstown, Woodend, America, Nook End, camomile Row and peacock Town ( we still call it peacock Town!

Most of the names are familiar -in family research - nackey Row and barrack yard especially - will have to look up where they were
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replied on: 1/26/2009 3:16:32 PM

I've been speaking to a man this morning who lives in a house which is part of a row of cottages on Brook Street at Loscoe. He had been told that the houses where he lived was called Rotten Row.
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replied on: 1/26/2009 5:07:18 PM

the tan yard was at langley ,I think it was next to the pit my mother lived there when she was a girl in the 1920's.they were very poor and 2 boys 2 girls had to top and tail in one bed ,rent was half a crown a week but they ran into arrears and did a moonlight to burns street ,it was easy because they didn't have any furniture.
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replied on: 2/10/2009 7:56:53 AM

3rd Dec 1890
Heanor
THE NAMING OF STREETS
By order of the local Board the much-needed improvement of naming and renaming the principal streets of Heanor has at last been completed. For years past considerable difficulty and inconvenience has arisen owing to confusion in postal addresses &c., and many amusing blunders have been made. The most important changes in names are the following: Wood End Road to Station Street; Back Lane to Bircumshaw’s Road; West Valley and West Hill to Derby Road; the West end of Church Street to Market Street.

Wood End Road is back, the station is long gone (near Midland Rd “Peacock Town”or was there two Wood End Roads?
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This message was updated on 2/23/2009 4:10:20 PM by Poppie

Owd 'Eanor Place names.
replied on: 2/23/2009 2:02:24 PM

As well as those listed above, I have seen Stephen's Row on census returns. It's close to Tag Hill but I'm not sure exactly where.

I found North Row on an 1887 map of Heanor at old-maps.co.uk. It is off the High Street towards Wood End.
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replied on: 6/13/2009 2:51:23 PM

I'm looking for 2 addresses so that I can pin-point where some of my ancesters lived.

'Mundy Houses' near or on Ilkeston Road c1861.

'Hunts Row' near or on Langley Mill Road c1871.

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Owd 'Eanor Place names.
replied on: 6/13/2009 5:19:04 PM

Looking at the census returns. Hunts Row was definitely on Langley Mill Road (the first entry in the schedule names both the row and the road). Langley Mill Road was the name for what is now Station Road.

You can normally work out the rough position of terraces like this by tracing the route of the census enumerator, but I have to admit that I'm struggling with this one. I haven't even been able to work out which side of the road Hunts Row (or Williamsons Row, which was next to it) was. However, with there being two rows of houses, and with the next entries being around what is now North Street, I would hazard a guess (no more than a guess!), that these were the two terraces which stood where the church now stands. One of the rows was demolished in 1911ish, to build the church, the other later.
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replied on: 6/14/2009 8:19:39 AM

On the next census in 1881 they are living at 50 Station Road opposite to where the church is now. It doesn't look as though it's the same place, but it could be that the enumerator went about things differently. Within the next 10 years from 1871 the family moved back to Heanor and lived next to the church where Rowell's shop was. Then moved again to 14 Church Street, before going back down to Station Road by 1881.

Mundy Houses on Ilkeston Road looks as though they were just before Marlpool started, but I don't know where exactly that would be back in 1861.

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