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| D Quote | Reply | | round house posted on: 4/21/2003 10:39:38 AM I have seen the picture of the round house in Smalley on picture the past, does anyone know who was living there at the time and who the person is in the photo Thanks |
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RMMee
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round house
replied on: 5/2/2003 7:03:43 PM Welcome to the site. What is "Picture the Past"? |
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round house
replied on: 5/2/2003 7:18:47 PM Its a library service at http://www.picturethepast.org.uk/ there are pictures of the local area on there. |
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RMMee
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replied on: 5/5/2003 6:25:28 PM I have discovered that The Round House, which used to be a Toll-House on the Mansfield to Derby Turnpike Road, was demolished in 1952. Smalley Parish Council is recorded as expressing its regrets when the building was demolished. But other than that, not a lot else. Any contributions about the Round House or anything else in Smalley would be good. |
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RMMee
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round house
replied on: 10/11/2003 5:36:25 PM I think that this is the picture that D was referring to.  I said in my last post that the Round House was demolished in 1952. A different reference I have seen says it was 1956. |
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Canadian
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replied on: 11/9/2003 2:44:34 PM My mother's grandparents lived near the round house at Smalley, she talked about the round house for years. I have a post card of it, I found amongst her many Heanor/Nottingham things, it seems to be a close up of the round house if anyone's interested, I can send it. She immigrated to Canada with her parents in 1920. She was eight, last name Dodsley/ her mother a Bamford. I would love to find a photo of her shcool in Heanor, She took me there in 1975, but I didn't take a photo of her school and she had so many fond memories of it. The Bamfords lived on Burnthouse road. Her school seemed to be somewhere near Douglas Ave. in Heanor. I was a young kid at the time and didn't pay much attention. Wished I had. thanks don |
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RMMee
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round house
replied on: 11/11/2003 11:03:32 PM Here's another photo of the Round House at Smalley, courtesy of Don in Canada. Lots more detail, but no indication of a date. Can anyone assist? 
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wbaynton
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replied on: 4/19/2004 6:37:33 PM Don, I saw your reference to a marriage to a Bamford. Do you happen to be aware of a Zadoch Bamford b Abt 1822? He married Apr19/1844 our Frances BANTON cJul21/1816 Aston-On-Trent. Seem to be living in Heanor area at the time. Thks. Bill wbaynton@sympatico.ca |
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Peter Chamberlain
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replied on: 4/23/2004 11:54:00 AM Zadock Bamford was born 22-06-1822 described in the registers as Illegit son of Sarah Bamford Widow.He was Christened on 28-06-1837 at Heanor.Hope of interest. |
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Turton
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round house
replied on: 5/20/2004 1:54:39 PM We have just published a book on Smalley's Past. It contains eight different old photographs of Smalley Round House, plus many more pictures of the Smalley area. Details of the book are on the following web page (there is a link to its contents):- http://hometown.aol.com/brownhawker/myhomepage/sale.html Robert Turton & Smalley Boys' School Reunion. |
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wbaynton
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replied on: 6/1/2004 4:04:20 PM Thank you, Peter. I had come across the birth registration info on the web, but not the christening, which spelling I note is Zadock vs the Zadoch we've been using. Would you pls contact me directly at following address? Bill wbaynton@sympatico.ca |
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chrisbrin
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replied on: 9/13/2004 8:44:18 AM My Mum was born 1928 and lived on the corner opposite to where Kidsley Grange Nursing Home now stands. She says that her job as a child was to take the accumulator for the radio to be charged to a building next to or near to the Round House. I wondered if the building on the right of the photograph could be the place. Anyone know? Thanks |
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chrisbrin
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replied on: 10/25/2004 11:20:29 AM The building to the right of the round house was Harry Eatons accumulator shop. |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 2/23/2005 3:52:43 PM Is this the Round House as listed in the 1891 Smalley Census as - 'Old Toll Bar'. I can't find any mention of the name 'Round House'. Walker, Charlie. Head - Widower, aged 71/73? - Bn. Horsley, Derbys. His employment name is unreadable. Azzabuv. |
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Azzabuv
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replied on: 6/13/2005 1:54:38 PM Round House occupants, 1891 Census. Woodhouse. George. Head, aged 23, coal miner. Bn. - Horsley, Derbys. Woodhouse. Mary E. Wife, aged 22. Bn. - Belper, Derbys. Azzabuv. |
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Jennypeg
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replied on: 6/13/2005 3:15:01 PM this is all I've found on the lock up and round house 1854 SMALLEY LOCKUP THE LOCK-UP SMALLEY Ilkeston Pioneer A respected correspondent favoured us in our last issue with a paragraph describing the clean and orderly state of the Smalley LOCK- UP. If such things must be, it is gratifying to learn that they are well conducted. But we own we much rather learn that the rural hamlet of Smalley, and the locality of which it is the magisterial centre, had no need for the erection of a miniature house of correction, than to learn that any such odious looking edifice obtruded its unsightly architecture among the pleasant farmsteads and cosy cottages of Smalley. If Smalley itself with the advantages of a church, and chapels, a resident minister, and a resident and respected magistrate, require the erection of a prison in this the 19th century, it would be a sad libel, we think, on the present generation – but a very high compliment to “the rude forefathers of the hamlet” who dispensed with a ROUND - HOUSE, when they had none of the salutary checks on evil doing which modern Smalley happily enjoys. But we well know Smalley itself requires no such fortress. It merely obtains the questionable honour from the fact of its being the place for holding the Petty Sessions. For our part we utterly abominate the sight of these petty prison-houses obtruding as they do their very significant faces on the village green. We have the same aversion the stocks. We lately attended a parish meeting, held in order to decide on the re-erection of a worn out pair of these now exploded nuisances. The sapient parish officers were about to incur a charge of some four or five pounds, when we quietly asked whether the stocks were intended for use or ornament? If for use, we should like some evidence of the times they had been used within the last half-century. If for ornament, we humbly submitted that an uglier sight, and one more loudly proclaiming our own disorderlies, than a pair of stocks could not well be imagined. We carried the day. We saved four pounds – and everybody acknowledges how the approach to the church steps is improved by the removal of “the wooden stockings” We always thought the last English village in which a round house would be erected, or a pair of stocks tolerated, would be –otham – as we suppose the last persons that wore the “stockings” were Hudibras and Muddiman. We have another objection to a “Lock up – a human being should not be confined in an building in which there is not a human being to take care of him. The Smalley “cell” may be a very clean, snug, little hole, but it is not a place where a man should be immured on a cold winter night, or indeed on any night. If the person charged with any offences has been before the magistrate, the county gaol in his proper lodging house. If untried, let him be in the constable’s safe custody by an English fireside. The Habeas Corpus Act is often violated in these round houses. It is astonishing that rural places should plume themselves on the erection of such relics of a barbarous age, - and say, “Lo, we are big folks now – we’ve got a prison!” Had Mapperley had a round – house, we are afraid the hapless plunderer of the Mapperley pale would have had, at least, one bad night’s lodging, while all the little urchins and idlers of the place would have serenaded her! If there was any truth in the opinion that these lock-ups were really “a terror to evil doers” we should think their erection “a praise to them that do well” and these remarks uncalled for. Experience shows that they are not. Indeed we should as soon think of reviving the ducking stool, as the stocks, or the lock up, in this latter half of the 19th century. We make these observations in no captious spirit, but from an earnest desire for an onward instead of retrograde movement in our social state, and from a conviction that there are now influences at work which will, we trust, not only prevent the necessity of the “county rate” being expanded in the erection of little bastilles, but also in the building and enlargement of monster county prisons. Jenny |
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