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Message: Emoticon Listing HTML Help	[quote]Robert, We have been doing our detective work -and found the following-some from newspapers, some from memory, some from working out dates from census. Rodway senior At some time between 1881-1891 Rodway senior became a full time landscape artist-1891 shows him as an Artist and Landscape painter working on own account-his wife Julia was the Principal of Grammar School -they were living in Worcester. The date of Rodway exhibiting paintings began in 1885-so this was probably the time he became a full time artist.1901 Rodway and wife Juliaare still in Worcester- in the same house as in 1891-Julia was Principal of Ladies Boarding school. Daughters Emily R (single 31 Music Mistress) and daughter Harriett M (single 33 Science and Art Mistress) were living with them. Rodway and Julia had in total 4children- 3 daughters (the youngest daughter was Helen) and 1 son (William Rodway jnr) The youngest daughter was Helen b abt 1874 Portsea Hampshire. There is a marriage report 1st january 1904 of Clarke-Rodway Barnes " The marriage took place on 29th Dec 1903 at St Andrews Church Worcester by Rev T.L. Claughton MA, Canon residuary of Worcester cathedral and rector of St Andrews of William Thomas Clarke BSc London, the Technichal School Heanor Derbys, eldest son of Richard Clarke West brom to Helen (Nellie) youngest daughter of Julia and William Rodway Barnes landscape painter and Grammar School for Girls Worcester." So Rodway senior was still in Worcester in 1903 -and daughter married one of Rodway juniors teaching collegues! There is also a report in R&H 20 Dec 1901 of Heanor Technical School presentation in the Town hall-""Mr Ralph Stoddard presented Miss Barnes (on leaving the school) with a beautiful vase in recognition of her services as Head Mistress." Whether this was one of Rodways family we don't know??) Rodway junior If he had been exhibiting painting in 1885 -he would only have been about 14 years of age. Rodway junior as a young man served as a mounted policeman under Cecil Rhodes in South Africa after studying Art at the Colarossi Acadamie Paris and visiting Art centres in Europe. he returned to the country in 1896 and took up the position of 2nd master Bideford Municipal School of Art and design. In 1898 he joined the staff of Heanor Secondary School. His hobby was collecting swords, claymores, sabres and dirks. In 1938 he joined the Labour party and was Codnors representative on the Divisional Executive Commitee. he was also an ARP in WW2 -my friend remembers him coming to their door in the early hours of one morning wearing his uniform.-he also remembers going to Rodways house and seeing his collection of swors etc which were on display in the front room museum style.This was at 51 Codnor Denby lane. There were 4 schoolteachers living on Denby lane at that time -Mr Savage, Mrs brown, Miss Webb and Mr Rodway Barnes -the 2 latter teaching at Heanor technical School. R& H 22 July 1921 Society of Arts Exhibition Large hall Heanor Technical School 21 July 1921-exhibited a 24ft long mural an imposing work of William Rodway Barnes of Richard 1st and the Crusades...other walls are to be decorated by the same artist. Also Rodway junior must have been an expert with a gun--in 1908 having one of the higher scores at the Heanor Rifle Club. Nov 1906 Rodways teaching salary at heanor Technical School was increased from £115 to £125 R&H 20 Feb 1920 Letter to the editor from William Rodway barnes "Codnor tribute to Men who have fallen " May I call attention to the residents of Codnor of the rare beauty and noble proportion of the Lychgate we propose erecting for the above purpose at Codnor. As one who holds certificates in both Classic and Gothic Architecture and who, as an art student, admired such monuments in many of the most civilised countries of Europe, you will perhaps permit me to state that the proposed gate has my very sincere and whole hearted approval.....after a lifetime devoted to art, my father and grandfather before me , I give it as my considered opinion that the British have as profound a reverence for art as any other people. William Rodway barnes RDS Art master, Gold medalist." It seems likely that it was William Rodway Barnes Snr who was exhibiting from 1885 -as Rodway jun was too young and then out of the country for some while-but they probably both exhibited later. Possibly Rodway snr stayed in Worcester -but daughter Helen came to Heanor and married a collegue of her brothers. Also from the letter to the editor Rodway junior states his father and grandfather "had a lifelong devoted to art" Through the census we have discovered that Rodway juniors Grandfather Charles Barnes -was a painter journeyman-journey man meaning he was qualified enough to teach others. So it seems we have discovered 3 generations of Artists Charles William Rodway snr, William Rodway jnr -the latter we are certain from newspaper reports, census and personal recollections did live in Codnor. Whoever is selling the painting on e bay seems to have misread the signature and not have the history in depth.-in my opinion. William Rodway Barnes jnr died 1950 at Ripley Hospital having been Art master at Heanor Technical School from 1898 to 1931 [/quote]
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This message was updated on 11/7/2006 4:36:08 PM by suzard

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replied on: 11/4/2006 12:54:23 PM

Robert,
We have been doing our detective work -and found the following-some from newspapers, some from memory, some from working out dates from census.

Rodway senior
At some time between 1881-1891 Rodway senior became a full time landscape artist-1891 shows him as an Artist and Landscape painter working on own account-his wife Julia was the Principal of Grammar School -they were living in Worcester. The date of Rodway exhibiting paintings began in 1885-so this was probably the time he became a full time artist.1901 Rodway and wife Juliaare still in Worcester- in the same house as in 1891-Julia was Principal of Ladies Boarding school. Daughters Emily R (single 31 Music Mistress) and daughter Harriett M (single 33 Science and Art Mistress) were living with them. Rodway and Julia had in total 4children- 3 daughters (the youngest daughter was Helen) and 1 son (William Rodway jnr) The youngest daughter was Helen b abt 1874 Portsea Hampshire.
There is a marriage report 1st january 1904 of Clarke-Rodway Barnes
" The marriage took place on 29th Dec 1903 at St Andrews Church Worcester by Rev T.L. Claughton MA, Canon residuary of Worcester cathedral and rector of St Andrews of William Thomas Clarke BSc London, the Technichal School Heanor Derbys, eldest son of Richard Clarke West brom to Helen (Nellie) youngest daughter of Julia and William Rodway Barnes landscape painter and Grammar School for Girls Worcester."
So Rodway senior was still in Worcester in 1903 -and daughter married one of Rodway juniors teaching collegues! There is also a report in R&H 20 Dec 1901 of Heanor Technical School presentation in the Town hall-""Mr Ralph Stoddard presented Miss Barnes (on leaving the school) with a beautiful vase in recognition of her services as Head Mistress." Whether this was one of Rodways family we don't know??)

Rodway junior
If he had been exhibiting painting in 1885 -he would only have been about 14 years of age.
Rodway junior as a young man served as a mounted policeman under Cecil Rhodes in South Africa after studying Art at the Colarossi Acadamie Paris and visiting Art centres in Europe. he returned to the country in 1896 and took up the position of 2nd master Bideford Municipal School of Art and design. In 1898 he joined the staff of Heanor Secondary School. His hobby was collecting swords, claymores, sabres and dirks. In 1938 he joined the Labour party and was Codnors representative on the Divisional Executive Commitee.
he was also an ARP in WW2 -my friend remembers him coming to their door in the early hours of one morning wearing his uniform.-he also remembers going to Rodways house and seeing his collection of swors etc which were on display in the front room museum style.This was at 51 Codnor Denby lane. There were 4 schoolteachers living on Denby lane at that time -Mr Savage, Mrs brown, Miss Webb and Mr Rodway Barnes -the 2 latter teaching at Heanor technical School.
R& H 22 July 1921
Society of Arts Exhibition Large hall Heanor Technical School 21 July 1921-exhibited a 24ft long mural an imposing work of William Rodway Barnes of Richard 1st and the Crusades...other walls are to be decorated by the same artist.
Also Rodway junior must have been an expert with a gun--in 1908 having one of the higher scores at the Heanor Rifle Club.
Nov 1906 Rodways teaching salary at heanor Technical School was increased from £115 to £125

R&H 20 Feb 1920
Letter to the editor from William Rodway barnes
"Codnor tribute to Men who have fallen
" May I call attention to the residents of Codnor of the rare beauty and noble proportion of the Lychgate we propose erecting for the above purpose at Codnor. As one who holds certificates in both Classic and Gothic Architecture and who, as an art student, admired such monuments in many of the most civilised countries of Europe, you will perhaps permit me to state that the proposed gate has my very sincere and whole hearted approval.....after a lifetime devoted to art, my father and grandfather before me , I give it as my considered opinion that the British have as profound a reverence for art as any other people.
William Rodway barnes RDS Art master, Gold medalist."

It seems likely that it was William Rodway Barnes Snr who was exhibiting from 1885 -as Rodway jun was too young and then out of the country for some while-but they probably both exhibited later.

Possibly Rodway snr stayed in Worcester -but daughter Helen came to Heanor and married a collegue of her brothers.

Also from the letter to the editor
Rodway junior states his father and grandfather "had a lifelong devoted to art"

Through the census we have discovered that Rodway juniors Grandfather Charles Barnes -was a painter journeyman-journey man meaning he was qualified enough to teach others.

So it seems we have discovered 3 generations of Artists
Charles
William Rodway snr,
William Rodway jnr
-the latter we are certain from newspaper reports, census and personal recollections did live in Codnor.
Whoever is selling the painting on e bay seems to have misread the signature and not have the history in depth.-in my opinion.

William Rodway Barnes jnr died 1950 at Ripley Hospital having been Art master at Heanor Technical School from 1898 to 1931

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