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Message: Emoticon Listing HTML Help	[quote]This is a series of very good articles giving an insight into the Boer war no history book will give. 3 of my great uncles (brothers) were interviewed separately for this series -all were in the boer War - the youngest survived the fighting only to be struck by lightning at the barracks (in England) -he was hospitalised for 2 years -suffering burns and paralysis down one side -he survived and struck the first coal at a local colliery - some of the family are more proud of that than his service history) I assume you have Thomas parents in the census until 1891 - they lived to a good age -Charles to age 84 and phoebe to 72. On all census Charles gives his p.o.b as Loughborough On IGI there is a baptism -but it is member submitted so treat with caution Charles West christened 23 jan 1809 loughborough leicestershire parents gabriel West/mary there is also a marriage - again member submitted marriage 15 Sept 1805 Loughborough Gabriel West mary Keighley Loughborough leicestershire. Charles is referred to as a Angola s FWK (master) employing 2 men and 6 women in 1861 while his wife worked as a winder of cotton yarn I would think he was part of the cottage industry -not a factory owner occasionally you come across apprentices names -but it is very difficult to find exact places of work -most worked at home In 1844 there were 48,482 stocking frames in the british isles and all but 108 of them were operated by hand. 90% of the frames were situated in East Midlands Counties : leicestershire, Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire Lots of history is available on line re FWK You said you couldn't find them in 1851 Thomas'sister Selina -age 11 in 1851- was living at Church gate Loughborough and working as a house servant for Charlotte A Price ( 61 yr old widow - proprietor of houses) -there was a lodger -Joseph Giles age 38 occ Solicitor b. Shepshed leicester and Thomas is living with his parents and siblings in Loughborough at Barrow St- Charles (42 FWK)and Phoebe 35 with children Thomas 13, Ann 8, Henry 6, mary 4 -all b Loughborough HO107 Piece 2085 Folio 127 pages 6 & 7 (they are mistranscribed on ancestry )as "Wish" -must admit the writing on image is quite bad. it seems (to me) that the later children of Thomas would probably have been b. hucknall -as their births were registered in mansfield district -which would cover the area. By the way - I am not related - or the person who has this history on an American link - I only looked this up when Robert posted your enquiry - i just have this pandoras box with all kinds of information which may come in useful one day - I couldn't find your family being b Ilkeston -that's one of the reasons I had to "check it out" -Heanor History and family history is my passion! Noticed you don't have Thomas in 1871 -will check that out now Sue[/quote]
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This message was updated on 4/4/2008 12:01:53 AM by suzard

West - Francis and Thomas
replied on: 4/3/2008 11:41:48 PM

This is a series of very good articles giving an insight into the Boer war no history book will give.

3 of my great uncles (brothers) were interviewed separately for this series -all were in the boer War - the youngest survived the fighting only to be struck by lightning at the barracks (in England) -he was hospitalised for 2 years -suffering burns and paralysis down one side -he survived and struck the first coal at a local colliery - some of the family are more proud of that than his service history)

I assume you have Thomas parents in the census until 1891 - they lived to a good age -Charles to age 84 and phoebe to 72.

On all census Charles gives his p.o.b as Loughborough
On IGI there is a baptism -but it is member submitted so treat with caution
Charles West
christened 23 jan 1809 loughborough leicestershire
parents gabriel West/mary

there is also a marriage - again member submitted
marriage 15 Sept 1805 Loughborough
Gabriel West mary Keighley
Loughborough leicestershire.

Charles is referred to as a Angola s FWK (master) employing 2 men and 6 women in 1861 while his wife worked as a winder of cotton yarn
I would think he was part of the cottage industry -not a factory owner
occasionally you come across apprentices names -but it is very difficult to find exact places of work -most worked at home
In 1844 there were 48,482 stocking frames in the british isles and all but 108 of them were operated by hand. 90% of the frames were situated in East Midlands Counties : leicestershire, Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire
Lots of history is available on line re FWK

You said you couldn't find them in 1851
Thomas'sister Selina -age 11 in 1851- was living at Church gate Loughborough and working as a house servant for Charlotte A Price ( 61 yr old widow - proprietor of houses) -there was a lodger -Joseph Giles age 38 occ Solicitor b. Shepshed leicester

and Thomas is living with his parents and siblings in Loughborough at Barrow St- Charles (42 FWK)and Phoebe 35 with children Thomas 13, Ann 8, Henry 6, mary 4 -all b Loughborough
HO107 Piece 2085 Folio 127 pages 6 & 7
(they are mistranscribed on ancestry )as "Wish" -must admit the writing on image is quite bad.

it seems (to me) that the later children of Thomas would probably have been b. hucknall -as their births were registered in mansfield district -which would cover the area.

By the way - I am not related - or the person who has this history on an American link - I only looked this up when Robert posted your enquiry - i just have this pandoras box with all kinds of information which may come in useful one day - I couldn't find your family being b Ilkeston -that's one of the reasons I had to "check it out" -Heanor History and family history is my passion!
Noticed you don't have Thomas in 1871 -will check that out now

Sue

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