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This message was updated on 9/13/2005 1:27:15 AM by RMMee

Ouldgeave, Oldgrave, Oldgroaves?
replied on: 3/19/2004 12:23:50 AM

Glenn

I didn't know the answer, but knew I knew the name, so have spent a little while digging out what I can find!

Firstly, Oldgreave, Oldgrave, or Owlgreave (yet another variant!), wasn't in Heanor but in Shipley Parish. (For that reason, I've moved your post to Shipley - hope you don't mind).

It is mentioned in the 1845 Burke's Directory: "Old-Grave is an ancient farmhouse, the seat of a branch of the Lowes."

Some time in the early 1700's the Fletcher family, builders of Heanor Hall, who made all their money from coal mining, built a number of "soughs", that is channels to drain their mines. One of these was the "Oldgrave sough".

On the 1835 Sanderson's Map of 30 miles around Mansfield, I have found it, simply called "Oldgreave."

To describe it's location, for those who know the area, you travel towards Ilkeston, down Hardy Barn, then as the road straightens up it is some way off the main road on your left, about a third of the way between the road and the railway line in the valley. If you get as far as The Field, you've gone too far!

There is still a farm there, but now (just to keep us on our toes!) its called Algrave Hall Farm - I have to say that I don't know the building, so have no idea if it's modern or the original - next time I'm passing I'll try to get a closer look.

If you have a map, or use on-line mapping (I use Ordnance Survey's "Getamap", which can take you straight to it), its map reference is SK450452.

Hope that's of some use.

Robert

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