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TimCouzens	Leche family of Shipley Hall replied on: 1/7/2007 4:09:25 PM At last I have completed the transcription of the letters of the Long family of Draycot Cerne, Wilt., particularly Lady Dorothy Long nee Leche, Philip Leche and Rose Leche. I will send these to the society via the contacts page. Unfortunately there is no mention of Shipley. All of the children of Sir William Leche (d. 1676)seem to have had connections in Ireland. Philip Leche, Hester Miller's uncle, appears to have been on the staff of John Fitzgerald, 18th Earl of Kildare (1661-1707). This would explain why the Derbyshire estate was relatively neglected by the later Leche family.
TimCouzens	Leche family of Shipley Hall replied on: 3/20/2005 3:52:42 PM Its 36 Kb. Dont worry, Ill wait until I have finished transcribing the letters (which will take a while) and send you the complete set of information by other means.
RMMee Moderator	Leche family of Shipley Hall replied on: 3/20/2005 7:17:37 AM Tim The ChatArea site doesn't allow attachments (even adding pictures isn't easy). How large is the spreadsheet?
TimCouzens	Leche family of Shipley Hall replied on: 3/19/2005 9:50:06 PM Ive downloaded the will of Sir Edward Leche of 1652 from the National Archives website and found a reference on A2A from Derbyshire RO Ref D 779B of the sale of Wilne Hall in Little Wilne etc. From these, and your postings I have been able to construct a Leche Family tree. This shows the relationship to Dorothy Long nee Leche, her correspondents and those mentioned in her will. How can I add the Tree (a Excel spreadsheet)as an attachment for you.
TimCouzens	Leech family of Shipley Hall replied on: 1/31/2005 6:22:53 PM Many thanks for all of your information about the Leche family. I will try DRO to see if they have a more extensive family tree, which includes the Chaworths - an important Nottinghamshire family. They were related to the Byrons of Newstead Abbey. The only mention of William Leche I have, in the documents from Wiltshire Record Office, is an undated letter to Dorothy Long (nee Leche) commenting on his return from Ireland. Dorothy Long's Will of 1708 was witnessed by John Byron. I knew of the Chatsworth link, but did not know Dorothy Leche's mother was an Evelyn. I will get the new edition of the Diary. The Long family letters that I am transcribing have an annoying habit of mentioning Cos:Leche or even Cos : L, so it's impossible now to understand all of the relationships. So far, there is no mention of Old Shipley Hall in them. Thanks again.
Azzabuv This message was updated on 1/4/2005 3:38:11 PM by Azzabuv	Leche Coat of Arms replied on: 1/4/2005 9:38:00 AM Aye and not let's forget the interesting tale of our land-settled viking - Ulf and his small, logged fort on the hill. Azzabuv.
suzard Researcher	Leche Coat of Arms replied on: 1/3/2005 11:38:04 PM This is all brilliant info -we only seem to associate Shipley Hall with Miller Mundy
RMMee Moderator	Leche Coat of Arms replied on: 1/3/2005 7:23:44 PM (Again courtesy of Azzabuv)
Azzabuv This message was updated on 9/10/2005 7:59:42 PM by Azzabuv	Leche Family of Shipley Hall replied on: 1/1/2005 1:06:21 PM The Leche Descendant Line Sir Edward Leche was appointed a Master of Chancery in 1619 and knighted in September 1621. He owned a number of properties in Derbys. - Duffield, Hathersage, Over Padley and Nether Padley plus also in Suffolk, though his main residence was Squerries, in Kent. His family originated from Lancashire, holding or adopting the crest and arms of the ancient Leche family. They had held substantial lands in Derbys. including Chatsworth, but became impoverished and Francis Leche, the last of the main line of the family, sold Chatsworth and other valuable property in Derbys. by 1550. Sir Edward Leche boosted his finances greatly at the time of the Commonwealth Period, acquiring wool and land tithes for a number of N. Derbys. parishes. He died in 1652. A marriage contract was arranged between William Leche, eldest son and heir apparent of Sir Edward and Jane Evelyn, daughter of Sir John Evelyn, (a relative of the diarist - John Evelyn). The Shipley Manor and tithes were arranged as the marriage portion. His Will, probated at Canterbury, Sir William, (once knighted by Charles II, May 1660), died at Squerries, 1676, leaving two sons, Edward and John and a daughter, Jane. Their mother, also named Jane, died 1682. Underaged Edward, died 1680. His brother John, of Maidstone, Kent, succeeded him and in 1681, married Elizabeth, the daughter of Richard, Duke of York. They only lived occasionally at Shipley, letting the estate to John Fowle, 01/10/1682. John Leche began to have financial problems, raising a mortgage on part of Shipley Estate in 1690 and then two further mortgages in 1700. In his Will of 1701, John Leche left the Derbys. and Suffolk estates to his wife, Elizabeth and two daughters, Hester and Elizabeth, who sold their Suffolk estates to pay off John's debts. In 1708, Shipley was mortgaged in its entirety. The debts still outstanding were £2456/12/2d. The Shipley estate's rents income was £393/9/8d, plus the coal mines. A Mr. William Kinsey provided £2400 to redeem the three outstanding mortgages. Hester eventually married Humphrey Miller, Esq. of Hyde Hall, Sandon, Herts. and also of Wrotham, Kent. In July, 1716, they (Mrs. Miller) paid £3000 to redeem the Shipley Hall mortgage. Hester and Humprey's daughter, Hester, was born in 1714, her parents dying in 1719. Her Grandmother, Elizabeth Leche, helped her run the estate and lived to see Hester married at Allestrey on 29/05/1729 to Edward Mundy, who because of the contents of the marriage agreements, finally received Shipley Hall in its full entirety in January, 1735. In 1735, the Estate consisted of 20 houses, 20 cottages, 600 acres of land, 600 acres of meadow, 600 acres of pasture and 300 acres of furze, heath and common. Azzabuv.
Azzabuv This message was updated on 9/10/2005 7:59:09 PM by Azzabuv	Leche Family of Shipley Hall replied on: 12/31/2004 6:12:27 PM That's great confirmation, Peter. If we keep this up, we'll soon have the Universities and Museums of the World dropping in for factual confirmation of something or other. Azzabuv. P.S. They had all those 9 Bakery implements to hand, yet in the inventory for 1701, no Bakery was listed. Perhaps they'd just demolished an old one and hadn't begun to build its replacement?
Peter Chamberlain Researcher	Leech family of Shipley Hall replied on: 12/31/2004 4:12:51 PM Quoting from an inventory dated late 16th century an Iron peele was listed as an implement used in the Bakehouse.I do recall the long shovel type tool used for loading bread into an oven being called a wooden peel still used in some old bakeries today
Azzabuv This message was updated on 9/10/2005 7:58:46 PM by Azzabuv	Leche Family of Shipley Hall replied on: 12/31/2004 1:18:29 PM c.1600, Shipley Hall was described as consisting of part stone, part timber and plaster, situated in a good position and dry. The 1670 Hearth Tax listed 11 fireplaces in the Hall. In 1701, the ground floor consisted of - The Great Parlour, with a closet adjoning it. The Small Parlour. The Kitchen. The Brewhouse. The Wash-house. The Pantry and a cellar. The first floor consisted of - The Parlour Chamber, with a closet and a passage adjoining it. The Red Room, with an old closet next door. The Chequer Chamber. The Green Chamber. The top floor consisted of - The Maids room. The Presse Room. The Yellow Chamber. The Men's Room (Servants), with an included napkin press. The standard of furnishings was very high. The Great Parlour and the Old Closet had gilt and leather hangings on the walls. The Red and Chequer Chambers (Bedrooms) had linen hangings and similar in the Green and Yellow Chambers. What was meant by the name of 'Chequer', is not quite understood. A Closet could mean anything from a Store-room where china and glass were kept (Great Parlour), to a dressing or sitting room as were connected to the Little Parlour and the Red Chamber. The household linen was stored in the Presse Room. The linen was valued at £18, or around £850 in this day's finances. The silver plate value was £180, or about the mid-£8000 today. Kitchen and cooking pots were made of iron, brass, copper, tin or wood. The plates and dishes for general use were of pewter. The brewhouse utensils - coppers, saucepans and a stewpan were made of copper. The spirit Still was of pewter. Bowls, washing tubs and bread-making tubs were wooden. There was also 'Parcel of earthenware' and 30 dozen glass bottles. The kitchen fireplace was huge in size, consisting of a pulley and weights, iron roaster, 6 spits, an iron fender, iron poker, iron peele, - (unknown object, with 8 others in the Hall), iron grate, firepan, tongs, bellows and an iron sifter (for the cinders). There were NO flat-irons for clothes pressing. Tea for the Hall (1701) retailed at £1 per pound and was kept in a padlocked, lead-lined, wooden tea caddy. A servant boy's wages of those times was £1 per year - if 'lucky'? with a man earning £5! In the Great Parlour was Ornamental china (mostly Delph) displayed on a shelf near the fireplace. There was also an exquisite bird cage. The furniture in the 'Little' Parlour consisted of - 3 tables, 18 chairs and other assorted furniture. There was also a collection of firearms - 5 fowling pieces; 3 blunderbusses; 2 pairs of horse pistols; 2 carbines and 5 cases of horse pistols. In the room above, was an 'old hanger' and a silver sword. This room may have well been John Leche's own bedroom. The Stableyard consisted of two horse-drawn carriages and four geldings, saddles and bridles and 20 loads of hay. The TOTAL value of the contents of the Hall and its outhouses was £321/18/7d which equals approximately £14000/15000 to day. Does anyone know what an 'Iron Peele' may really have been - or what it was actually used for? Azzabuv.
RMMee Moderator	Leech family of Shipley Hall replied on: 12/31/2004 9:50:30 AM A scan from an old Derbyshire County Council leaflet showing the Shipley Hall in the Leche days, prior to its rebuilding. (Scan courtesy of Azzabuv)
Azzabuv This message was updated on 9/10/2005 7:58:11 PM by Azzabuv	Leche Family of Shipley Hall replied on: 12/23/2004 2:50:42 PM Sir Edward Leche, of Wrotham, Maidstone, Kent, bought the Hall on 23/03/1626. On his death in 1649, his son, Sir William Leche, of Westerham, Kent, inherited it and passed it on to his son John Leche, who owned it from around 1682. He married Elizabeth Duke in 1689. On his death, in May of 1704, his daughter - Hester Leche inherited the Hall, marrying a Miller, of Wrotham, c.1712. She became a widow in 1716. Her daughter, Hester Miller, born 1714, inherited the Hall on 10/05/1719 and was probably aided in her early rule of the Hall by her Grandmother Elizabeth, who died in 1739. She eventually married Edward Mundy on 24/01/1734. Azzabuv.
suzard Researcher	Leech family of Shipley Hall replied on: 12/18/2004 10:27:27 PM Started a topic on Shipley Hall-"Sir Edward Leehe" is mentioned-that is how the name is spellt!

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