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stanley






Cocker House
replied on: 5/29/2008 11:08:21 PM

Hello Keith glad to hear from you Stan is my real name did Roger tell you have lived on the Isle of Wight for 12 years with one of my sons and two daughters and nine grandchildren and three great grandsons.
keith longden






Cocker House
replied on: 5/29/2008 3:33:23 PM

Hello Stanley ( or should I call you Micky !!! )Peter Birkin informs me that the managers name was Tommy Wright , and he was followed on by Tom England . I live on Garden Road ,and pass your old house daily . Peter tells me that there were 4 brothers living in the house -- Eddie , Pud , Sticksy and Micky . I was at the Kimberley CC on sunday and saw 2 of your old cricket colleages -- Roger Phillis and ?? Fretwell , who both pass on their best wishes.
Ray Marsden






Cocker House
replied on: 3/14/2008 2:19:47 AM

John Day chr 5 June 1770 married Ruth Shaw 24 May 1795 Trowell Nottinghamshire.
They had 8 children :-
William chr 2 Sep 1796 Trowell died 2 October 1796 Trowell.
John chr 3 March 1799 Trowell. died 9 Sep 1928.
Sarah chr 14 Sep 1800 Trowell
Mary chr 18 July 1802 Trowell
Mary chr 18 Jul 1802 Trowell
William chr 4 Mar 1804 Trowell
Hannibal chr 12 March 1806 Trowell
Hannah chr 6 Aug 1807 Trowell
Clarissa chr 4 Sep 1808 Trowell

John Day then married Mary Walker 10 April 1808 in Eastwood. I realise that this marriage date is later than the christening date of the last child by his first wife but there was sometimes a delay between birthdate and christening date.

His son, John Day (3 Mar 1799) married Myra Clarke 5 Jan 1823 in Eastwood.

They had 4 children :-
John chr 18 August 1823 Eastwood Notts
Henry chr 17 Sep 1824 Eastwood Notts
George chr 26 Dec 1828 Eastwood Notts
William Thomas chr 13 Sep 1827 Eastwood.

John Day (18 Aug 1823) married Isabella Cullen (1822 Rolleston Notts).
They had 6 children:-
William 1843 Eastwood Notts
Mary Ann 1846 Eastwood
Isabella 1849 Eastwood
John 1852 Eastwood
Sarah 1854 Eastwood
Thomas 1857 Eastwood

It is here that it becomes quite complex.
Census records and birth register entries indicate that the same John Day had 5 children by Elizabeth who is listed on the census as his wife but for which there is no marriage register entry. These children are:-
Fanny Elizabeth 1854 Smalley Derbyshire
Jane 1855 Smalley
Elizabeth 1860 Smalley
Charles 1861 Smalley
Festus 1864 Horsley Woodhouse.

As you will realise there is an overlap of his childrens birthdates with his first wife and second partner.

The situation is somewhat clarified by the 1861 census which indicates that his first wife Isabella has returned to the home of her father John Cullen in Rolleston and lives there with three of her children, John, Sarah and Thomas, the birthplaces of which are indicated as Eastwood. One can only assume that there were twoo simultaneous relationships and when this was discovered by Isabella she returned to her fathers home.
You may ask what has this to do with Cocker House. The answer is :-
When John Day (1799) died in 1828 his widow Myra then remarried to John Farnsworth (1800 Eastwood) They were married on 4th May 1830 at St Nicholas Church Nottingham. They had at least 4 children :-
Phoebe 1831 Eastwood
Mary 1833 Eastwood
Frederick 1834 Eastwood
Festus 1836 Eastwood.

Now on the 1841 census at Cocker House we have shown :-
John Farnsworth 40
Mira (Myra) 40
with their 4 children mentioned above ..and
two of her children by her first marriage John Day 15 and Henry Day 16.

I understand from the person for whom I am researching that there is some family oral tradition of a major altercation between this same John Day and the other residents at Cocker House. One can only assume that it may have had something to do with rights of residence or inheritance. I am continuing research into this. I hope this assists others in their research. Any additional information would be appreciated.
stanley






Cocker House
replied on: 7/15/2006 6:15:22 PM

Cocker House did belong to Barber and Walker I delivered milk there to a manager of moorgreen colliery. Used to drink in the same pub in eastwood.Sorry can't remember his name
Jennypeg
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Cocker House
replied on: 5/6/2005 8:13:33 PM

Hi Sue,
John Hutsby / Hutchby lived in a cottage next to the Three Tuns pub, the cottage has gone now (has anyone got a photo?), in the book Sons and Lovers by D. H. Lawrence page 78, “Ha! But I’n just seed Jont Hutchby.” The next road is Walker St so maybe he was a neighbour; John was a cricketer was he in Eastwood cricket team?

Eastwood and Kimberley Advertiser
25th September 1931
Mr and Mrs John Hutsby
Mr and Mrs John Hutsby 62, Three Tuns Road, celebrate their golden wedding to-morrow [Saturday], and we tender them hearty congratulations, they were married at Greasley Parish Church on September 26th 1881, from the homestead where Mr and Mrs Hutsby now reside. This pretty little cottage, standing in it its own grounds, has been in the possession of three generations of the Hutsby's, and has, in fact, never been occupied by anyone else. It was built by the present owner's great-grandfather on then common land, afterwards enclosed by Earl Cowper, and having been occupied by the present owner's father up to his death on payment of an agreed title rental, was offered for sale, and purchased by the present and third generation of Hutsby's when the late Earl's estate was disposed of. The present John Hutsby was carried there as an infant in arms, and with the exception of one long break of twenty-Four years during which time he was full-filling Cricketing engagements in Lancashire and afterwards in Scotland, He has always lived at the old homestead. Mrs Hutsby hails from Shropshire, and it was whilst in Preston that she first met Mr Hutsby in 1879, he having accepted a Cricketing engagement there. They were married two years later.
Mr and Mrs Hutsby are 74 and 72 years of age respectively, and both happily are active and hearty and enjoy good health. They have no family of their own, but they adopted a girl relative who lived with them from the age of nine years until she married, but she unfortunately passed over to the great majority some four years age.
Mr and Mrs Hutsby will be entertaining a few friends at home to celebrate the happy event.

suzard
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Cocker House
replied on: 5/6/2005 5:21:03 PM

Excellent information, Jenny.
Cocker House was the model for DH Lawrence's "Shottle House" in Aaron's Rod.
Jennypeg
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Cocker House
replied on: 5/6/2005 4:45:52 PM

Hi,
I hope this is in the right place? there's so much info in this death report I just had to post it.
Jenny

Ripley and Heanor
15th Feb 1924
DEATH OF MR. A. W. BRENTNALL
In Harness at Ninety
The passing of a notable Eastwood Gentleman
Ripley and Heanor 15th Feb 1924
We are called to record the demise of Mr. Alfred Wolstan Brentnall, which sad event took place, not unexpectedly, at his residence, Cocker House, Eastwood, about 5.30 pm on Saturday evening, in the presence of the members of his family. The deceased gentleman celebrated his 90th birthday in the early part of January of this year, and was up to that time discharging his daily round of duties at the offices of Messrs Barber, Walker & Co, but about three weeks ago he contracted a chill, and remained indoors, and subsequently had to take to his bed, and passed away as stated.
Deceased was the son of Mr. Henry Brentnall, of Dunstead House, Heanor, whom a few old people in the district still remember with reverence and affection and to whom a monument was erected in Marlpool Cemetery by his admirers. Large numbers of men owed all the education they obtained to Henry Brentnall, for summer and winter for over forty years he devoted himself in those far away days, when there was no education for the poor, to conducting free school classes on week nights and Sundays. He lived at Eastwood when his family was born, and where he acted in the same capacity to Messrs Barber, Walker and Co as his son just deceased. He used to walk from Eastwood to Marlpool Chapel, where his Sunday and night school was carried on, and it is related that one night as he was returning home he was stopped by footpads, who demanded his money, but on discovering who it was they allowed him to depart unmolested.
The late Mr. Alfred Brentnall possessed a good many of his father’s characteristics. He was for the latter half of his life an enthusiastic supporter of the temperance cause and a great supporter of foreign missions. When he was seventy he said he would add £1 per annum to his annual subscription to the London Missionary Society for every year he lived over the allotted span, so that for some years he must have been one of the most generous subscribers to that great society.
Like his father before him he was an ardent Congregationalist and Liberal, and took a great interest in politics. He was no believer in the policy of the Labour Party, and even within a day or so of his death was greatly interested in the present phase of politics. No man knew more local history than he did, and he might have filled a volume with his reminiscences of old times. For instance, his grandfather remembered seeing the heads of Prince Charles’s rebels on old London Bridge. When the Pentrich rebels were marching through Eastwood to burn Nottingham Castle and the population in the parish fled to High Park Woods, his father stood at the entrance to the Coach Road to Lamb Close and watched them march by.
In his young days Mr. Alfred Brentnall was a great cricketer and played with Squire Walker’s famous team, indeed he and the Squire were close friends, and it was characteristic of his loyalty that for the past half century no one saw him on the anniversary of Mr Walker’s death except in a suit of black, and he never failed to send a wreath to lay on the Squire’s grave in Eastwood Churchyard on the same day.
Until well over middle life he took great interest in local affairs. Before there were local Councils he was a member of the Road Board, and it was due to his prompt action in going post haste to London to appeal to a committee of the House of Commons then sitting that tollbars were abolished on the Nottingham Road. He took an active part in establishing Eastwood Cemetery, just as his father before him was the leading spirit in making Marlpool Cemetery. He was one of the original members of Eastwood Parish Council and of the Urban District Council. He was one of the founders of Eastwood Congregational Church, and one of its most faithful supporters, and in this again he was like his father, who was the mainstay of Marlpool Congregational Church for half a century.
Right up to his ninetieth birthday he was as straight as a gun barrel, and although “stout and scant of breath” enjoyed good health, and for several years had not missed a day at his desk at the offices of Messrs Barber, Walker and Co with whom he had been for over seventy years. In summer time he played a game of croquet, and until he was over eighty a quiet game of tennis. Up to this year he enjoyed a game of billiards or bridge before he when to bed. His hand was steady, as his numerous business friends can testify, his eye was clear, for he had during the last few years given up spectacles, and his mind was vigorous and alert up to the end. In addition to his duties in the colliery offices, he acted as steward to Mrs Walker Munro, of Eastwood Hall estate, and had thus many duties to take up his time and attention and his interest in business never flagged. Some years ago he took his part in developing local industries, and acted as director of various local concerns.
He leaves two sons and six daughters to mourn his loss.
Mr Brentnall was one of the founders of the Robin Hood Lodge of Freemasons, and was the second worshipful Master in 1875,and was believed to be the oldest freemason in the county of Notts. He was one of the founders also of the present Mechanic’s Institution, having held the position of treasurer the whole of the time, and was re-elected to the position only last Thursday. His father before him started the library in Bam ford’s Row. Deceased was one of the first members of the trades Guild, and had been a vice-president of the Ambulance Training Corps from its inception.
Azzabuv

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This message was updated on 4/23/2005 12:16:16 PM by Azzabuv

Cocker House
replied on: 4/23/2005 12:08:26 PM

Hi, R. There's a couple of Mary Day's to follow.
Heanor Marriage.

Day. John, of Codnor, m. Bennit Potter, both of the parish of Heanor - 28/04/1611.
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Church Broughton Marriage.

Day. John, m. Mary Lea - 29/05/1756.
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Duffield Marriage.

Day. John, m. Mary Barton - 20/08/1802.
Azzabuv.

Peter Chamberlain
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Cocker House
replied on: 4/23/2005 6:43:09 AM

Dont Know where you got the record for John Day died 9th September 1828 from but MI usually stands for Monumental Inscription
RTurton






Cocker House
replied on: 4/22/2005 10:34:22 PM

Thanks Robert for this information.

I have been doing some research on the Day family of Cocker House and it appears that John Day b c1775 married a Mira Clarke in Eastwood 5th Jan 1823. John and Myra/Mira had 4 children - one being John (my great great Grandfather) - buried in Smalley Baptist Church.

John Day b c1775 was buried in 1828 which ties in with Myra (sp?) being a widow in 1828. I have also found that Mira Day married a John Farnsworth in Nottingham on 4th May 1830. One of their children (Pheobe Elizabeth) married a Charles Laughton. One of their Grandchildren was Charles Laughton the actor (born in Scarborough 1899). It's a small world!

Just for confusion, but there's probably a simple explanation, there is a headstone in Eastwood church that reads "Mary, wife of John Day of 'Cocker House' died October 16th 1821 aged 58". I can't find any record of Mary and the earliest record of Cocker House seems to be 1828. Any clues?

One other question is that John Day of Cocker House died in 1828 and is recorded as being buried on 9th September 1828, age 53 M.I. Does anyone know what the M.I. stands for?
RMMee
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Cocker House
replied on: 4/17/2005 7:12:56 AM

I'd always thought that too, but having just read "Eastwood through bygone ages," published by the Eastwood History Society around 1970, I'm no longer sure, as the book states that Cocker House "was demolished during opencast mining operations in the 1950's."

The book also may assist on the original question.

It states that the first occupants of Cocker House appear to have been John and Myra Day. By 1828, Myra was a widow, but still lived there.

In 1833, Frederick William Farnsworth, son of John and Mira, a farmer of Cocker House, was christened at Eastwood.

There are no earlier references to Cocker House than these, though there is reference to a Samuel Cocker in 1677, and there is also an area called Cockhagh in older documents.

The last occupant of the house was a Mr Pedley, sub area manager for No 5 Area, NCB East Midlands Division, so it does look as though the house did belong to the Barber-Walkers.
hassocks






Cocker House
replied on: 4/16/2005 5:48:12 PM

The building was never demolished, its still there! You can't see it though cause its under the 'slag heap'.
Jennypeg
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Cocker House
replied on: 2/7/2005 9:01:23 AM

Hi
if you look for John's death(M.I.in Eastwood Library)and look for his Will or Mary's Will you may have to go to Nottingham for this, Nottingham may have info on the house maybe the deeds if it was demolished, or in Eastwood Library they have maps,photos, census and baptisms / marriages for Eastwood, and the staff are very helpful.
RTurton






Cocker House
replied on: 2/6/2005 11:39:26 PM

Thanks Peter for the response.

It does however seem that the Day's lived at Cocker House much earlier, possibly 1810/1820's.

I visited Eastwood church today to find, by accident, a gravestone for "Mary, wife of John DAY of Cocker House d 16/10/1821 aged 58".

If anyone has any history of Cocker House around this time I would be interested.
Peter Chamberlain
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Cocker House
replied on: 2/5/2005 2:40:13 PM

Only one "Day" family living at Eastwood 1871
William Day 42 Butcher,Hannah Wife 40, Mary A 15, Agnes 12,all born Eastwood.Unfortunately no address given.
1881 living Victoria Street with new wife.
1891 living Church Street Widower.
1901 living Chuch Street Widower.
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