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pacaine	Earliest Derbys. Marriages by Name and Date replied on: 4/22/2008 10:51:03 AM Many thanks again Sue. That sounds very much like the family she is looking for. I'll take it from here. Thanks P
suegill Researcher This message was updated on 4/21/2008 10:12:19 PM by suegill	Earliest Derbys. Marriages by Name and Date replied on: 4/21/2008 8:52:06 PM In the 1861 census Sarah is widowed and has Mary age 13 living with her. In the 1871 Census I can't find Mary Gillott (Sarah only has her grandson Charles with her) so I would assume that Mary had married by then. So it would seem that only a couple of the marriages listed above would qualify. In the marriages listed for 1868 prospective grooms are Thomas Calladine and Joseph Rawson. It might be worth getting the certificate. On the 1871 census there is the family of Thomas Calladine (age 21), wife Mary (age 21) and daughter Sarah (age 2) listed in Heanor Sue
pacaine	Earliest Derbys. Marriages by Name and Date replied on: 4/21/2008 6:05:07 PM Thanks for the info Sue. It's the old Heanor problem - so many Gillotts. In fact I am descended from Joseph Gillott the brother of Mary, but received a message via another forum asking whether "my" Mary Gillott married a Thomas Calladine. I do have some Calladines in my tree, but not enough knowledge to know if this via Mary Gillott. Thanks P
suegill Researcher	Earliest Derbys. Marriages by Name and Date replied on: 4/20/2008 6:55:16 PM From freebmd marriages for Mary Gillott in the Basford district Jun 1861 Gillott Mary 7b 189 Sep 1868 Gillott Mary 7b 181 Jun 1871 Gillott Mary Ann 7b 223 Dec 1871 Gillott Mary 7b 309 Jun 1888 GILLOTT Mary Ann 7b 237 Dec 1892 GILLOTT Mary Jane 7b 82 Sep 1897 GILLOTT Mary Alice 7b 262 GILLOTT Mary Hannah 7b 344 Sep 1903 Gillott Mary Ellen 7b 278 Jun 1906 Gillott Mary Ann 7b 499 Sue
pacaine	Earliest Derbys. Marriages by Name and Date replied on: 4/20/2008 5:51:56 PM I would appreciate any information about the marriage of Mary Gillot (daughter of Abraham & Sarah) born about 1848 in Heanor. Thanks P
KarenB	Earliest Derbys. Marriages by Name and Date replied on: 4/13/2008 6:53:42 AM Hi Sue, Many thanks! Karen Vancouver Island
suegill Researcher	Earliest Derbys. Marriages by Name and Date replied on: 4/11/2008 11:13:04 PM Brownwest Benjamin Binton and Ann Hobson of Shipley 26 Feb 1710 Thomas Hobson and Hannah Radford 5 Sep 1774 Thomas Stevens Hunt and Jane Hobson 28 Sep 1807 Charles Hobson and Eluizabeth Watson both of Codnor Park 28 Jun 1827 John Daykin of Pinxton and Hannah Hobsob 7 Mar 1836. Sue
suegill Researcher This message was updated on 4/11/2008 11:14:57 PM by suegill	Earliest Derbys. Marriages by Name and Date replied on: 4/11/2008 11:10:00 PM Karen, Thomas Cooke of Shipley and Margaret White d. of John White of Codnor 29 Jun 1577 Matthew Stubinge and Ann White of Codnor Park 8 Jul 1627 Solomon Bonsall and Mary White both of Codnor Park 11 Aug 1670 Richard redfern and Elizabeth White 7 Feb 1740 As for the original records I think they might be at the records office in Matlock. I'm not sure maybe someone else on here would know. I live in Florida so I haven't managed to visit Matlock myself. Sue
brownwest	Earliest Derbys. Marriages by Name and Date replied on: 4/11/2008 2:09:35 PM Evening , Would there be any Hobson's?
KarenB	Earliest Derbys. Marriages by Name and Date replied on: 4/11/2008 7:41:07 AM Thanks for the info. Sue. Much appreciated. Would you please check one more thing on your Phillimore CD for me? Could you quickly look through the White mariages that pre-dated Joseph White & Ann Farnsworth's marriage date of 1742 and let me know if there were any White marriages with the following forenames - John, Edward, George, Samuel and Thomas for the men and Elizabeth, Mary and Ann for the women. Those seem to be the names that reappeared frequently over the generations. You mentioned that I could find out more detailed information about marriages from the church records. Could you please tell me where these records kept? Again ... thanks. Karen
suegill Researcher This message was updated on 4/10/2008 9:41:56 PM by suegill	Earliest Derbys. Marriages by Name and Date replied on: 4/10/2008 9:34:06 PM The first White marriage I have found in Heanor on my Phillimore's Marriage CD is in 1566 (the register starts 1558). The Phillimore's only lists the married couple and not their parents or any other information. You would have to view the original parish records for that information. However I did find John Boarbanks of Smalley and Elizabeth White 17 May 1767 Edward White and Mary Holden 15 Feb 1774 Samuel Gillott and Suzanna White 19 Apr 1780 Adam Woodward and Phoebe White 5 Jan 1789. As I explained above I can't confirm that their parents are Joseph and Ann but the dates seem that they are in the ballpark. 1st marriage listed on the CD (for Heanor area) for Mellors is the marriage of Joseph White and Mary Mellors (April 6, 1784, that you already have). There is no previous marriage for a Mellor or a Joseph White listed Sue
KarenB	Earliest Derbys. Marriages by Name and Date replied on: 4/10/2008 2:15:21 AM I'm sorry I forgot to mention which part of Derbyshire. It's Heanor, Loscoe and Codnar. It's the really early marriages I am interested in. I just haven't been able to find much info. that predates the late 1700s - early 1800s. I do have a couple of older dates because I know that Joseph White (1759 - 1833) married Mary Mellor (1763 - 1835) on April 6, 1784 in Heanor and I suspect Joseph's father who was also named Joseph White (dob 1717) married an Ann Farnsworth on Nov. 16, 1742 in West Hallam. Joseph and Ann had 9 children and I have only been able to locate marriage dates for 3 of them. I have no information on wedding dates and spouse's names for the other 6 - Elizabeth, Amy, Hannah, Edward, Phoebe and Susannah. I would also dearly love to know who Mary Mellor's (1763 - 1835) parents were, same for Ann Farnsworth and Eliza Marshall and Eliza Abbott (both Eliza's were married to Joseph White (1789 - 1872). Eliza Abbott married him in 1813 in Heanor and she died in 1816. They had 2 children - George (dob 1814) and Dorothy (dob 1815). I can't find spouses for either of them. Eliza Marshall married Joseph in 1817 and they had 8 children. I have spouses for all of them except for Mary (dob 1823), Edward (dob 1825) and Isaac (dob 1833). Is there any marriage information that pre-dates Joseph White and Ann Farnsworth? I would especially love to know who his parents were. I hope I've made sense here. I know it is a lot to ask of you and I will certainly understand if you throw your hands up in frustration. I do appreciate anything you can tell me and hopefully in about a year I will be able to go to England and do some of my own investigating. Karen
suegill Researcher This message was updated on 4/9/2008 9:38:49 PM by suegill	Earliest Derbys. Marriages by Name and Date replied on: 4/9/2008 9:36:01 PM Marriages in what area of Derbyshire? and about what dates? There are 77 White marriages listed in Heanor alone. Sue
KarenB	Earliest Derbys. Marriages by Name and Date replied on: 4/9/2008 8:56:50 PM Any White, Mellor, Farnsworth, Marshall or Marriott marriages pre 1800? Any info. very much appreciated. KarenB
suegill Researcher This message was updated on 10/7/2007 8:34:17 PM by suegill	Earliest Derbys. Marriages by Name and Date replied on: 10/7/2007 8:32:55 PM Philimores has: Joseph Bowler, farmer, w and Hannah Woolley by lic. 7 Jan 1800. I think the w means that he was a widower. Sue

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