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Jennypeg Researcher	Codnor History replied on: 2/13/2008 8:19:15 AM Hi Sue, I was reading “The Derbyshire Magazine” Feb 2008 and found this about Bess of Hardwick “At the age of 12 Bess left home to live in the household of her cousins, the Zouch family, at Codnor Castle. There she met and married her first husband Robert Barlow, heir to a neighbouring estate. He was aged just 13, she only 14, and poor Robert was not in good health. The two young people never consummated their marriage and on Christmas Eve 1544, Robert died, making Bess a widow for the first time.” Jenny
suegill Researcher	Codnor History replied on: 2/12/2008 8:50:38 PM Fron todays newspaper - Codnor has a connection to Lady Jane Grey ==== BEHEADED JANE GREY HAD DERBYSHIRE BLOOD Reluctant monarch Lady Jane Grey was just 15 when she was ascended the throne. She was beheaded less than a year later - exactly 454 years ago today. Maxwell Craven traces her Derbyshire links. Derbyshire can legitimately lay claim to the unfortunate Queen Jane, who was placed on the throne of England by a conniving father-in-law as the white hope of the Protestant succession on July 10, 1553, following the death of Edward VI. Lady Jane Grey, as she is more usually known, was a member of an old and distinguished Anglo-Norman family. Henry de Grey, of Thurrock, had inherited the extensive manor of Codnor, which included Heanor and Langley (Mill), with its castle guarding the Erewash valley by 1201. The family remained there until the 6th Lord Grey of Codnor died without a legitimate heir in 1496. ==== Sue
suzard Researcher This message was updated on 1/16/2008 6:50:23 PM by suzard	Codnor History replied on: 1/16/2008 6:47:34 PM R&H 24 Dec 1897 Last night a parish meeting was held in the Crosshill Scools for the pupose of considering the proposed detatchment of the Derbyshire parishes of Codnor-cum-Loscoe, Codnor Park and Shipley from the Basford Rural District Council and their administration by a Derbyshire authority. Mr W. Hardy presided and explained that two informal meetings of principal ratepayers had been held, with a view to getting their opinion on the matter to lay before that meeting.The Butterley Company and the Midland Railway Company were represented.Several motions on the subject were made.One was to the effect that Codnor should remain as it was, with Basford, if possible to do so,and if not, some were in favour of establishing an Urban Council in this district. In reply to a question, the Chairman said they would remain at Basford for Poor Law purposes. This only affected sanitary matters.There were various ways in which Codnor could be dealt with in regard to this matter. They could be attatched to Ripley or Heanor, or the three parishes could be formed into a Rural District Council.The next, they could be made into an Urban District, ot they could be attatched to Belper.Mr Corfield said he believed the Butterley Company would go strongly for Codnor remaining with Basford, as they now were.After some further discussion, Mr White moved that the parish of Codnor be in favour of establishing Urban powers, and this, having been recorded by Mr H Grainger,was submitted to the meeting and agreed unanimously, Mr Corfield and others having previously left the meeting.
suegill Researcher	Codnor History replied on: 1/14/2008 9:08:43 PM I think Old Tom is my Great-Great-Great-Great Uncle. This is all very interesting. Sue
Jennypeg Researcher	Codnor History replied on: 1/14/2008 6:41:10 PM "At fourteen she had to take to the stocking frame, and made black silk hose to be conveyed by old Tom Hogg of Loscoe to Nottingham, as was then the custom." 58 High St Loscoe Lot 20, 27th June 1919 THREE COTTAGES With outbuildings and garden situate in the village, in the occupation of Messrs. Cater, York and Shaw at an annual rental of £21, tenants paying all rates except water rate. A portion of this lot is un built upon, has a frontage of 46 feet and forms a valuable building site. The land tax is 3s. 11d. Old Tom lived in this row of cottages or so I’ve been told.
Jenks	Codnor History replied on: 1/13/2008 9:15:57 AM A fascinating and informative insight there Suzard, it also explains why many of my local ancesters appeared to be born and married in Nottinghamshire. Thanks for that.
suzard Researcher This message was updated on 1/13/2008 12:53:53 AM by suzard	Codnor History replied on: 1/13/2008 12:07:56 AM This death report gives a little insight into what Codnor was like in the 1800's R&H News Jan 10 1913 Lived during 6 reigns On Tuesday morning at 7-45 the death occurred at Chapel St Ripley of the town's oldest inhabitant, Mrs John Thorpe, aged 95 years, who for some years had resided with her daughter Mrs Curzon. This was after a week's confinement to her rooms but despite Dr Hall's valuable medical skill and every care from the family,the old lady succumbed after bronchitis to time's inexorable decree. Mrs Thorpe, whose maiden name was Susannah Cater,was the daughter of a stockinger and small-holder, who lived at the farmstead in the fields on the west side of Glasshouse Hill, Codnor.It was in 1817, the year of the Pentrich Revolution, that she came into being, and thus lived three years during the reign of GeorgeIII. Then came GeorgeIV, WilliamIV, Queen Victoria, King Edward VII and King George V. Mrs Thorpe naturally remembered little of the Coronation of these monarchs, she recalled however,that on the night of the death of WilliamIV a terrific thunderstorm broke out over the neighbourhood. The heavy rainstorm burst the old culvert which ran near what is now the Midland Railway embankment outside Codnor Station, and the floods rose as high as "Pichem Lane" or what is now titled "Station Road". In Mrs Thorpe's early days there were neither Church, Chapel or School in Codnor. She acquired the rudiments of a scanty education from a Miss Peake, a lady of some accomplishments who resided in a cottage opposite Holly Well on the main road from Codnor to Crosshill. At fourteen she had to take to the stocking frame, and made black silk hose to be conveyed by old Tom Hogg of Loscoe to Nottingham, as was then the custom. There was no Church in Codnor during Mrs Thorpe's early days, and as a matter of fact, her husband, to whom she was married at Selston Church, was a stonemason employed in the erection of the sacred edifice which is the Church for the parish of Codnor-Cum-Loscoe. The stage coach and the pack horse were the only means of locomotion, and she well remembered walking to Ripley to await the coaches halt at the Red Lion Hotel in order to "post" a letter to her husband who was working in Leeds. Codnor was a sparsely inhabited Hamlet in Mrs Thorpe's maiden days, for there was then no Mill Lane, and Bullock Yard was the most thickly built part. It is 64 years since Mrs Thorpe came to reside at Hammersmith, and 34 years since she lost her first and only life partner, who was for many years employed dressing stone at Butterley Ironworks in connection with the furnaces. She had nine children-three sons and six daughters. The deceased lady was of most cheerful disposition, and retained a lively sense of humour until a few days prior to her death. The funeral takes place this afternoon (Friday). Just out of interest I have traced Susannah Thorpe (nee Cater) through the census 1851 living at hammersmith Ripley with husband John age 33 mason and children Joseph 11, Ruth 8, Sarah 6, Phoebe 4, Mary 6mth 1861 Lowes Hill Ripley with husband John and children Joseph 21, Ruth 19, Sarah 16, Phoebe 14, Joseph(who ws really John) 7, James 5, Emma 2 1871 Lowes Hill with husband and children Sarah 26, Phoebe 24, John 17, Thomas 15, Emma 12, Susan 7 1881 Lowes Hill Widowed with children Phoebe 34, Susan 17, son in law Alfred Curzon (who had married daughter Ruth and was now a widower and 3 Curzon grandchildren George 8, John 6 and Ruth 3 1891 Chapel St Ripley Susannah living with Head of house Alfred Curzon (who had by now married daughter Phoebe-sister of 1st wife)and 4 Curzon children 1901 Chapel Terrace Ripley Susannah living with widowed daughter Phoebe Curzon (Grocer) and 4 Curzon children So it would be daughter Phoebe who looked after Susannah to the end
Jennypeg Researcher	Codnor History replied on: 6/21/2007 7:56:18 AM 1854 Ilkeston Pioneer CODNOR PARK The eleventh anniversary of the Codnor Park and Ironville Artisans and Mechanic's Library was celebrated on Tuesday the first inst, on the grounds of Codnor Castle, kindly lent by Mr. Thomas Martin, for the occasion. Special trains from various places were crowded with eager seekers after the pleasure, which the grounds of Codnor Castle that afternoon afforded. The Nottingham military sax-tuba band, Mr. Redgate's quadrille band, and Codnor Park accordeon band, sent forth their melodious strains, accompanied by the rustic swains and village maidens in the giddy whirl of the country dances. The amusements, which were of a diversified character, were resorted to by all parties, more particularly that of dancing. The grounds were cleared of their merry occupants shortly after 9 o'clock.
Leesw	Codnor History replied on: 8/17/2006 3:24:46 PM I was really pleased to see that Condnor Monument is to be restored and Codnor Castle too. The latter seems in a poor state even from the condition it was in when I played there as a lad. Once these things go, they are gone for good so we have a duty to pass them on to later generatins of Heanor and Codnor folk.
philfred	Codnor History replied on: 8/5/2006 4:25:07 PM And another one to try for the monument, http://www.cromfordcanal.org.uk/index.html then open the Jacksdale timeline. A little bit more information on the monument and Haynor (16th cent spelling) history. Put yourself back in time and in short trousers, saying Haynor would have resulted in a clipped ear, either verbally or physically. regards Phil
paulr This message was updated on 7/31/2006 7:11:14 PM by paulr	Codnor History replied on: 7/31/2006 4:53:59 PM Hi Wesley, From TONIGHTS DERBY EVENING TELEGRAPH 31st July 2006.Page 13. REPAIRS START AT TOWERING TRIBUTE. Ironmasters monuments to be restored by specialists. BY JAMES COXON. Work has started to repair historic buildings which commemorate a major contributer to north Derbyshire's industrial heritage. The Jessop Monument Tower and Hall, both Grade 2-listed buildings in Codnor Park, were built in tribute to ironmaster William Jessop 2nd,the son of one of the founders of Butterley Ironworks in Ripley. UK Coal agreed to carry out the work when it was granted planning permission by Derbyshire County Council in 1988 to extract coal from an area close to the buildings. It has employed restoration specialists Croft Building and Conservation, of Cannock, to carry out the work. Dave Bolton, of UK Coal said: "The restoration project is being carried out by specialists to ensure the work is completed to the highest standards so that we can leave a lasting legacy to be enjoyed for decades to come." Butterley Ironworks was established in 1790 by Benjamin Outram and William Jessop.It was for many years, the largest coal,iron and engineering concern in the East Midlands. One of its most famous projects was making the roof for St.Pancras railway station in London, in 1868. The company also manufactured cast-iron rails. The hall and the tower,which is 90ft tall and has 150 steps leading to a viewing platform, were built following Jessop's death in 1852. In 1861, the tower was struck by lightning, which dislodged large blocks of stone. The hall went out of use many years ago and fell into disrepair. Work is also to be carried out on the monument grounds and Codnor Castle, with the total restoration work costing about £1.5m. Councillor Brian Lucas, the conty council's cabinet member for sustainable communities said: "We made a pledge when we granted planning permission that these buildings would be restored. I'm sure everyone's looking forward to seeing the finished results." This report is accompanied by a very good photograph of the work in progress, framed through the curved arch of the main entrance to the Hall. Picture by Jon Hindmarch JH280706A-3 Sorry it does'nt answer ALL of your questions. Chrisbin's lead above gives more information on dates. PaulR
chrisbrin	Codnor History replied on: 7/24/2006 5:14:22 PM Try www.jacksdale.org.uk click on Heritage and History, then High Days and Holidays, and Monument Hill. There is information about the monument plus photographs. Chrisbrin
WesleyLees	Codnor History replied on: 7/24/2006 4:12:54 PM Does anybody know about Codnor Park Monument? When was it built, by whom, why, why did it close? Wesley Lees
frontcentre	Codnor History replied on: 5/8/2006 4:05:28 AM Does anybody have any other Woolley stories? I am researching this line at the moment and any details are very welcome. FC
paulr	Codnor History replied on: 3/24/2006 11:30:56 AM Extract from The Buildings of England a Penguin book on Derbyshire first published 1953,Author Nikolaus Pevsner. Codnor,St.James 1843,by Robert Barker,quite pretty.Stone with narrow W Tower,the body of the church an aisleless parallelogram with lancet windows,white inside,and with a W Gallery on cast iron columns. Codnor Castle,1m.E.Visually impressive,with its cliff-like fragments of masonry rising to a height of 18ft,but archaeologically not very telling,unless one is provided with a plan of the results of excavations. Codnor Castle was built by the Lords Grey of Codnor and later belonged to the Zouche family. It was surrounded by a park of 1,500 acres. It consisted of a Lower and an Upper Court.The former lies W and NW of the present farm-house. It was separated from the Upper Court by a wall with two circular turrets flanking the gateway. In the middle of its W side were two slightly projecting rectangular turrets. The Upper Court contained the most important living quarters, a three-storeyed structure. Masonry dates from two periods, the early C13 and the early C14.The Lower Court was an addition to the earlier Upper Court. PaulR

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