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porkpiebaby
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St James Pc Codnor marriages
replied on: 8/13/2006 7:46:13 PM Hi Suz, Jenny, Since your help with the other Clarke names, I've come up with a few more names I would like information on: Thomas Clarke b circa 1853. (Suspect he died before 1871, but baptism, marriage, burial would be great if available) (son of James and Amy) All dates are circa Ann Clarke 1823 John Clarke 1831 Thomas Clarke 1832 William Clarke 1835 (all children of John and Hannah) John Clarke 1801 Hannah Clarke 1801 Many many thanks in advance |
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St James Pc Codnor marriages
replied on: 8/10/2006 10:10:14 PM Do you know of any similar researchers who hold records for Heanor or Ashbourne at all? Thanks |
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St James Pc Codnor marriages
replied on: 8/8/2006 9:57:08 AM Thank you Jenny for clarifying all of that for me! Very much appreciated and fills in some information I definitely didn't have before. Thank you |
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Jennypeg
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St James Pc Codnor marriages
replied on: 8/8/2006 7:12:04 AM James Clarke of Grandfield House Loscoe buried St James Crosshill 25th April 1901, aged 75 years wife Amy buried Crosshill 18th July 1896 aged 65 years. Mary, James & Amy Clarke Grandfield House Farmer (adult age 19) Dec 15th 1887. Laura, James & Amy Clarke Grandfield House Farmer (adult age 17) Dec 15th 1887 George Fogg / Elizabeth Clarke Cab not Lab Also if you have a look at the Derbyshire Wills on the Wirksworth Site, Matlock have a copy of James Clarke Loscoe 1901 |
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porkpiebaby
This message was updated on 8/8/2006 2:16:24 AM by porkpiebaby |
St James Pc Codnor marriages
replied on: 8/8/2006 12:48:09 AM Thanks so much for the information on Clarkes' marriages at Codnor! Some of them are spelt Clark (no e) in some of the census returns. However, since my grandfather's middle name was "Clarke" then I have to presume the intention was for it to be spelt with the "e"! Thanks again! Just a couple of questions on all your help! 1) Did Mary Clarke(daughter of James and Amy)really get baptised in 1887? if so, this is quite late really! She would have been 18! 2)Did Amy Clarke die in 1901 the same as James? 3)At the time of George Fogg and Elizabeth Clarke's marriage, was George Fogg's father John a "cab" or a "lab" proprietor? If there is any more information about any of this branch of Clarkes, in particular baptisms and deaths/burials then I would be very grateful. Thanks |
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St James Pc Codnor marriages
replied on: 7/12/2006 4:06:44 PM Looking for any info on Woolley marriages that you have time to find. Thanks FC |
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St James Pc Codnor marriages
replied on: 7/12/2006 4:05:10 PM JMax, I am interested in the book you mention by Fred E Thorpe. Is it still in print? Where can I get a copy? I have a copy of a document written by Mr Thorpe on some family history and I am wondering if there might be more references to the Woolley family in the book. Like any info you can share. Thanks FC |
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Jennypeg
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St James Pc Codnor marriages
replied on: 7/12/2006 11:58:26 AM Codnor records baptism 15th Dec 1887 Mary daughter of James & Amy Clarke Grandfield House Farmer Codnor St James 29th Jan 1852 James Clarke full age Bachelor Miner of Codnor father John Clarke F.W.K., Amy Hicking full age spinster no occupation of Codnor father William Hicking Publican witnessed by Thomas Pepperday & Charlotte Abbott. James Clarke of Grandfield House Loscoe, buried St James Crosshill 25th April 1901, aged 75 years. Wife Amy buried Crosshill 18th July aged 65 years. 1871 Census Heanor Rd Loscoe James Clarke head 43 Miner Codnor Amy Clarke wife 39 Codnor Ann Clarke daur 16 Codnor (Stainsby) Jane Clarke daur 14 Codnor (Lewis Watson) Francis Clarke son 12 Loscoe (Sarah Ann Dunford) James Clarke son 10 Loscoe Hannah Clarke daur 8 Loscoe (Edward Ford) Elizabeth Clarke daur 5 Loscoe (George Fogg) Mary Clarke daur 2 Loscoe (Robert Steeples) Lora Clarke daur 4mths Loscoe (Herbert Inger) 17th May 1875 John Burges Stainsby 24yrs Bachelor Contractor of Eastwood father John Stainsby Innkeeper, Ann Clarke 21yrs spinster no occupation of Loscoe father James Clarke contractor witnessed by Thomas Clarke & Elsie ? Stainsby. 21 May 1877 Lewis Edward Watson, Jane Clarke witnessed by Thomas Henry Watson & Julia Watson. 26th Oct 1879 Francis Clarke 21 yrs Bachelor Collier of Loscoe father James Clarke contractor, Sarah Ann Dunford 21 years spinster no occupation of Loscoe father Henry Dunford Labourer witnessed by Richard Brunt & Hannah Clarke. 10th Aug 1885 Edward Ford 26 yrs Bachelor clerk of Langley Mill Heanor father James Ford deceased, Hannah Clarke 22 yrs spinster no occupation of Loscoe father James Clarke Contractor & Farmer witnessed by John Walters & Elizabeth Clarke. 26th Dec 1887 George Fogg 32 years widower Foreman of Heanor father John Fogg cab proprietor, Elizabeth Clarke 21 yrs spinster no occupation of Codnor father James Clarke Contractor witnessed by Mary Fogg & Kate Hunt. 4th Jul 1893 Herbert Inger 22 years Bachelor Farmer of Heanor father William Inger Farmer, Lora Clarke 22 years spinster no occupation of Loscoe father James Clarke Farmer & Contractor witnessed by James Clarke & Mary Clarke. 25th Sept 1893 Robert Wildsmith Steeples Mary Clarke witnessed by James Clarke & Eve Jackson. Jenny |
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suzard
Researcher This message was updated on 7/12/2006 8:11:50 AM by suzard |
St James Pc Codnor marriages
replied on: 7/11/2006 11:45:22 PM Sorry it doesn't give witnesses ! St James PC Codnor Marriages Dec 26 1887 George Fogg 32 Widower Foreman father John Fogg Lab Proprietor Elizabeth Clarke 21 father James Clarke Contractor 29 Jan 1852 James Clarke(no age given) Miner father John Clarke FWK Amy Hicking (no age) father William Hicking Publican 17 May 1875 John BurgessStanisby 24 Contractor father John Stanisby Innkeeper Ann Clarke 21 father James Clarke Contractor 21 may 1877 Lewis Edward Watson 21 Machine Agent father John Watson Contractor Jane Clarke 21 father James Clarke Contractor (don't think this is your Francis -but is only one I can find) 24 Dec 1897 Francis Clarke 43 Farmer father Thomas Clarke Blacksmith Susanna Rowland (Loscoe) 30 father John Rowland Miner 10 Aug 1885 Edward Lord 26 Clerk father James Lord Deceased Hannah Clarke 22 father James Clarke Contractor and farmer25 Sept 1893 Robert Wildsmith Steeples (Ironville) 24 Butcher and Farmer father john Steeples farmer Mary Clarke 25 father James Clarke Contractor and farmer not found James b 1861, Polly or Laura I assume where no age is given the certificate would just say "of full age" there are quite a few more Clarkes-if you need any more PS A 2x Great Aunt of mine married a Clarke, was widowed and then married another Clarke(not related)- the problem was that she knew the first Clarke had an "E"-but never knew if the second Clarke did (2nd husband never learned to read and write) -so she used to sign her name CLark-and then put a little sqiggle on the end, just in case there should heve been an E!!!! |
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St James Pc Codnor marriages
replied on: 7/11/2006 10:15:27 PM Hi there, Not used this site before, but looks good! I'm presently researching the Clark(e)s of Loscoe/Codnor. Sometimes they are registered with and sometimes without the "e" I'd be grateful of the following information if available: Elizabeth Clark(e) m George Fogg 26/12/1887 who are the witnesses do you know? James Clark(e) m Amy Hicking Any of the following Clark(es) marriages Ann b1855 Jane b 1857 Francis b 1859 James b1861 Hannah b 1863 Polly b 1864 Mary b 1869 Laura/Lora b 1870 Many many thanks |
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replied on: 2/18/2006 12:02:36 PM quote: Could be because some pieces of the land for sale did not sell/get built on for some time. Or the fact that the land in between was consecrated to be used as a further cemetery. I will take a look at the plans and try to work it out. I have ordered a copy of the Sanderson’s map to see what is around that area earlier. If anyone knows or has a copy of the land before the sale plans where drawn up then that might also help. |
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suzard
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St James Pc Codnor marriages
replied on: 2/17/2006 10:29:50 PM I am posting full list of vicars on Church/chapel topic. Alittle mystery -Middleton Avenue was supposed to join up to Codnor Deby lane -but it doesn't! Have yet to discover why??? |
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St James Pc Codnor marriages
replied on: 2/16/2006 7:38:54 PM Thanks- I have the Fred Thorpe book and know of this sale plan. It is the buildings that were there before this that I am interested in. The land behind the gardens was consecrated To be used for future burials but in the 1970's some was offered for sale to the residents whose properties backed onto it. It was purchased on the understanding that it could never be built on. |
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Jennypeg
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St James Pc Codnor marriages
replied on: 2/16/2006 7:18:47 AM Plans of valuable building land and property situate at Cross Hill Codnor in the County of Derby belonging to The Rev. M. H. Middleton This is a map of the land its in a book by Fred S. Thorpe “The Heritage of Codnor & Loscoe” also I’ve seen the same map on the wall (near the fire place) in the Ormonde Club “Marquis of Ormonde” Codnor Denby Lane. Jenny P.s. two Denby Lanes Codnor Denby Lane and Loscoe Denby Lane |
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St James Pc Codnor marriages
replied on: 2/15/2006 11:28:01 PM This is all really interesting stuff. I am not to sure where to post my reply. here or on the Codnor posting? I can remember reverend Middleton (the second one) from when I was a child. I wonder if it’s possible to find out when the first vicarage was built? I understand that it was after the Church. I think this because the house I was born in was apparently used by the first reverend Middleton before this. I think all the land between Codnor Denby lane and Springfield Avenue. (including the land where the church was built), originally belonged to this property. Jacquie |
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