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theoman	marts replied on: 10/1/2006 10:24:02 AM hi i was looking at this site when i saw names which i knew (josie sumner) was my cousin and my mother was your gradad fred sumner's sister,i remember your mum josie as a beautiful young lady. so in some way we are related. regards theoman
suzard Researcher This message was updated on 5/11/2006 7:16:45 PM by suzard	marts replied on: 5/11/2006 6:18:32 PM Guess what? I have found a marriage reg mar qtr 1888 Basford dist (covers Marlpool) Bowdler Sumner Lydia Mason In 1901 they are living at 29 Mill Rd Marlpool (next door to my uncles parents) Bowdler Sumner 34 Engine fitter lab b. Maidley Shropshire Lydia 34 Aldercar Henrietta 12 Marlpool Frederick 9 Marlpool Audley M(?)7 America Harry P 5 America Arthur R 1 America George Boxhall Boarder M 27 Leicester Harriett Boxhall 26 M Ripley Derbys Birth reg Bowdler Sumner Mar qtr 1866 Madeley dist annejosephine, read your mailbox-I have sent you a message
annejosephine	marts replied on: 5/11/2006 1:07:19 PM thank you so much, all that fits, i remember when i went to Lockton ave girls school a lady served the school dinners, i called her mrs Gillet, she said i was to call her aunt Lizzy, then i was told she was my grandmothers aunt.So she must have been the two year old elizabeth in the census. I was born in Mill Road in 1940, my mother was Josephine Sumner, she died aged 21 in 1941, there was a tyhoid epidemic. I know my grandparent were Fred Sumner, and Ada nee Hallam, i know freds mothers family, she was Lydia Mason, but nothing about Grand dad fred family.Only they emigrated to Chicago America, about 1890, and returned some years later.I Know nothing more about the woolands either. Thank you very much for the trouble you have taken. As i heve lived in Australia for many years i would like to gather what i can for my family here
suzard Researcher	marts replied on: 5/10/2006 4:56:42 PM The census was 1901-ages are often approx on census 1891 census shows 0n Breach Rd Elizabeth Mart (widow) with children Martha 19, Sarah 14, Samuel 13, Annie 11, Mary 8, John 5, Elizabeth 2 1881 census shows at marlpool John Mart 35 Elizabeth 30 with children Martha Hannah 10, Sarah Ann 5. Samuel 4, Ann 5mth.
annejosephine	marts replied on: 5/10/2006 5:03:45 AM sorry, i repeat myself, i am new to computers, but i try.Martha died aged about 42 i believe. What date was that census that john and Martha Woolands lives at breach road, would that be 1900. my grandmother Elizabeth was born 1897 , and she was 3 then. she married enoch holmes
annejosephine	marts replied on: 5/10/2006 4:56:03 AM Thank you, My grandmother was Elizabeth Anne, and i had a great Aunt Lilian, and i thought Uncle sam. So Marthas husband was John.They did come from Marlpool, so maybe it was Breach road.
suzard Researcher	marts replied on: 5/7/2006 11:21:52 AM 1901 Breach Rd Marlpool there is Elizabeth Mart 49 widow -with children Samuel 28, John 14, Elizabeth 12 a few doors away John Woolands 28 wife Martha 29, children Elizabeth A 3 and Lillian 1. Have you anymore info we could work on????
annejosephine	marts replied on: 5/7/2006 5:34:06 AM My great grandmother was Martha Mart, i think she died early 1900s ,she marries a samuel woollands does anyone know anything about the Marts, my other greatgrandmother was Sarah Brown, she married someone Holmes, may have been James anne

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