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suzard Researcher	Strickland replied on: 2/22/2007 9:03:28 PM It's probably like my grandparents headstone -lost in the move -it should never happen!!!
Jennypeg Researcher	Strickland replied on: 2/22/2007 7:56:00 PM sorry you are right Robert, Suzard I've looked for a headstone for Stirland there is no headstone in the church yard or across the road in the new cemetery at Aldercar. Jenny
suzard Researcher This message was updated on 2/22/2007 1:35:39 PM by suzard	Strickland replied on: 2/22/2007 1:31:43 PM Aldercar cemetery was/is across the road from Aldercar St Johns church (there are some burials in the Church yard-burial records usually say Churchyard if the grave is in there. Some 30 plus years ago the headstones were removed from the cemetery and placed around the walls of the Church yard. There are still a few graves with headstones and surrounds in the cemetery-the ones which are left there are easily readable -a lot of the headstones around the wall of the cemetery are readable, but some have fallen face down and (for me) are too heavy to lift, but you never know someone may be able to find it and maybe get a photograph for you.
RMMee Moderator	Strickland replied on: 2/22/2007 1:21:03 PM Jenny It's the one you commented on earlier, in 1919, I think
Jennypeg Researcher	Strickland replied on: 2/22/2007 9:55:05 AM George junior dying in the tragic mine disaster - do you have a date? and was it local? Jenny
RMMee Moderator	Strickland replied on: 2/22/2007 7:26:18 AM Further from Claire: I am writing to you again now, regarding GEORGE HENRY STRiCKLAND and his FAMILY who were listed on the 1901 Census as living in the Gardener's Cottage, at Aldercar Hall. You may recall I contacted you last year with my initial enqury regarding George Strickland, and some of your members were wonderfully generous with their time and efforts and gave me a lot of information regading the family. I hope you dont think I am being a nuisance, but I have now managed to establish that George/Henry was married to Florence Louisa Linsell March QTr 1897 at Hendon - (she was born in Maldon, Essex) They had 4 children - George junior dying in the tragic mine disaster - and three daughters, , and Dorothy Rose born June Qtr 1899 at Basford - (Codnor Park.) and Louisa Kate born Dec 1898 Southwell (Elston Notts). also believe a daughter Florence W was born Dec Qtr 1903 West Deby. I am just wondering if there is still any family connections thereabouts and whether any of your Members might have any information ?
Jennypeg Researcher	Strickland replied on: 8/16/2006 1:39:13 PM M.I.s (Memorial Inscriptions) Aldercar Cemetery plot D grave 400 In/ Loving Memory of / George Arthur / Strickland / who died Aug 27th 1919 / aged 17 years / blessed are the pure in heart. He was the only Strickland buried there with a headstone. The records for Aldercar Church are at Derbyshire Record Office, Matlock. Jenny
porkpiebaby	Strickland replied on: 8/16/2006 12:31:56 PM Claire, I think Jenny is the best person to help you answer the question about where he is laid to rest. There is a church yard at Aldercar church, but I'm not sure what state it is in these days. I am going myself to Codnor St James this afternoon, and whilst it's unlikely he's there, as it's probably a little bit too far out, I'll keep my eyes peeled for your George. If Jenny can't help you with his resting place, I'm happy to go have a look at Aldercar Church, as it's only about a mile away, if that. I think she has good access to the local archives than me though, so we'll see what she says. The only problem is that many church yards have been closed and reorganised round here, removing the stones and grassing over the ground where our ancestors are buried. Sometimes for safety reasons as the headstones were large and falling down. I went looking for some of my ancestors and the churchyard looked lovely....but all the stones were around the outside of the yard...not that respectful I'm afraid. Let me know if Jen can't help. I've still got another couple of weeks off work. Mandy
clairescott	Strickland replied on: 8/16/2006 12:18:27 PM Hello again - a HUGE thank you to Jennypeg Researcher - (Im only fairly new at this computer stuff and with wandering fingers tend to press various keys with unintended results.) Claire
clairescott	Strickland replied on: 8/16/2006 12:09:09 PM Hello everyone, What can I say ? - I am completely divided. My own son is 17 years old. Even allowing for the passage of time - some 85 years - I am enormously saddened by this absolute waste of such a promising life cut short - obviously destined for greater things, and notwithstanding the respect and esteem the family was held in locally - very many heartfelt tributes to young George.... Do you think he was laid to rest at Aldercar Hall itself ? The other part of me is enormously gratified that I can learn more of my Great Great Uncle's life and times. I have done further research and think that I may have found the 2 little girls on the 1901 Census: Dorothy Rose born June Qtr 1899 at Bashford,Derby/Notts., and Louisa Kate born 1898 Sept Qtr Southwell Notts. (I believe the Census were always enumerated in the first Quarter of the year. What do you think, from the Census information ? Once again, very many thanks, especially to one porkpie. Claire
porkpiebaby	Strickland replied on: 8/14/2006 2:04:11 PM I've been following this thread through. What a very sad state of affairs. There is a lot of information available however, which may prove useful in Claire's search.
Jennypeg Researcher	Strickland replied on: 8/14/2006 1:52:01 PM 1919 5TH Sept, Eastwood & Kimberley Advertiser THE FATAL ACCIDENT AT ORMONDE Aldercar Youths Sad Death At Aldercar last Thursday Mr. W. R. Whiston held an enquiry regarding the death of George Arthur Strickland, aged 17 years, who was killed by a fall of roof at Ormonde Colliery the previous Wednesday. Mr. E. J. Ellis-Fermor (Ripley), representing the Butterley Co., Mr B. Elliott (colliery manager) and Mr Danby (H.M. Inspector of Mines) attended. Geo. H. Strickland, head gardener for Mr. A. F. Wright, Aldercar Hall, identified the body as that of his son. Walter North, of 45, Nelson Street, Heanor, said that about 9.30 on Wednesday morning he was at work on the main road at the Ormonde Colliery when he heard a crash, immediately followed by a cloud of dust. Other boys were with him at the time, and upon calling out to ascertain if they were all right received a reply from all except Strickland. The deputy, Ben Antcliff, came on the scene, and upon being informed that no reply had been received from deceased, they at once instituted a search, and after pulling away a quantity of bind which had fallen discovered the body. Frank Bailey 7 Wellington Street, Heanor, corroborated. Ben Antcliff, Loscoe Road, Codnor deputy, said he was about 40 yards away from the fall. He examined the place where it occurred about half an hour before the accident. The Coroner: Have you any idea as to what caused the fall? I should say a piece of the side gave way, bringing some top with it. What do you think caused the side to give way? That I cannot say. H.M. Inspector: How did you examine the place? By rapping in it. What did you rap with? A piece of wood. Did you know about the fall that had taken place just above the junction? It was only a small fall, a bit of the side that had come off. Still it went to show something was uneasy? Yes, but it was further up the road. Did you notice any breaks when you were examining the roof? No. Did you see any after the fall? Yes. You are quite sure you looked for them and could not find any? Yes. How would you stop a similar accident? We should have to timber it. You did not think it necessary to timber it before? No, it had been in good condition. You are an experienced miner besides a deputy? Yes. And you say you had looked all round and could find nothing likely to occur. You did not think it was in any way dangerous? No. It was one of those things that you cannot account for? Yes. Dr. A. M. Holmes, Heanor, examined the body at the colliery office, and found a large wound on the right side of the scalp, and the scalp turned back. The nose was also flattened and he did not think deceased breathed after the fall. The Coroner said he was satisfied it was a pure accident. He expressed sympathy with the family in the unfortunate way in which the boy had met his death. He seemed to have been fond of his work and good at it. Mr. Ellis-Fermor also on behalf of the Butterley Co expressed sympathy with the family. As the Coroner had said the lad was fond of his work and they regretted such an accident should have happened, and that they should lose him, as he was a young and promising collier. FUNERAL The remains of deceased were laid to rest at Aldercar on Saturday, amidst striking tokens of public regret and sympathy with the bereaved parents. Deceased, who was only 17 years of age, was the only son of Mr and Mrs G. H. Strickland (the former being well known as head gardener at Aldercar Hall), and was a promising youth. He took great interest in Church work, and was a side’s man at St John’s Aldercar, with which place of worship he had always been connected. The Vicar (Rev. L. U. Green), assisted by Mr. F. Causebrook, conducted the service in church, which was filled with sympathisers, and also at the graveside. In addition to the members of the family the funeral cortege included: Mr.T. Cooke (manage at Ormonde Colliery), Messrs W. H. Allcock, J. Walker, W. Baker, and W. H. Woolley (representing the Ormonde Lodge of the Derbyshire Miner’s Association), Miss Maud and Mr. Leslie Gascoyne, Mr H. Ling, Miss Hunt, Mr and Mrs Poyser, Mr , Mrs and Miss Abrey, Mr and Mrs Harbottle, Mrs Wootton, and Messrs J. Ault, J. S. Smith, and J. Ling. The bearers were Messrs P. Potts, H, J, S, and R. Smith. The inside of the grave was lined with evergreens, and the numerous floral tributes included: “Our Darling,” from his sorrowing Mum and Dad and Sisters. “With Christ, which is far better.” In loving memory of dear Arthur from Uncle Harry and Auntie Ellie, Kittie and Derick, Bournemouth. With deepest sympathy, from his Friend and Godmother Mr and Mrs A. F. Wright, Aldercar Hall. From the clergy and wardens and sides-men, Aldercar Church. The Aldercar Sunday school Teachers and Scholars. Mr and Mrs Gascoyne, Leslie, Maud, and Lois. Mr and Mrs Wootton. Workmen at Ormonde Colliery. All at Bothamsall. Abrey, Charles, Harry and Stanley. Jim. Misses Hunt, Nottingham and Heanor. Mr and Mrs F. Briddon, Ironville. Mr and Mrs Poyser. Arthur Marriott and Joe Poyser. Mr and Mrs Smith and family, Plumptre Terrace. His old Pal, Howard Davis, R.A.F., now in Russia. Mr D. B. Elliott and Mr. T. Cook, Ormonde Colliery. Winnie and George Draycott. Mr and Mrs Marriott, Harold and Arthur. Mr and Mrs Harbottle and family, Ripley. Mr and Mrs Slater and family. Mr and Mrs Ling and family. Lucy. Mary, Beatrice, Annie, Kate, Cecily, and Elsie. Artificial wreath from his fellow-workers. Mr T. W. Wootton, Langley Mill, was undertaker.
clairescott	Strickland replied on: 8/14/2006 2:07:55 AM Have just read the very sad news. What a shocking thing to happen such a young man, and how ironic for the parents who must have taken great comfort from the fact that young George was too young to go the War... Sometimes the information you come across still has the power to move you, even after such a distance of time.. Claire
Jennypeg Researcher	Strickland replied on: 8/13/2006 10:29:03 AM This is very sad, but it gives you a little bit more about the family, I will look for inquest report or funeral it may give a list of mourners. Jenny 29 Aug 1919 SHOCKING FATALITY AT LOSCOE ADLERCAR YOUTH KILLED AT ORMONDE A shocking accident, resulting in the death of a youth named George Arthur Strickland, 16 years of age, son of Mr and Mrs George Strickland of Aldercar, occurred on Wednesday morning at Ormonde Colliery, Loscoe. It appears that this youth was employed on the main road underground, and was doing something to the haulage rope. Three other youths were with him. Strickland had just left his mates when a heavy fall of roof occurred hearing the crash the three youths shouted “Are you alright” Receiving no reply. When they were horrified to find Strickland under the fall. It was estimated one stone would weigh half a ton. The body was conveyed to the home of the deceased’s parents at Aldercar to await an inquest. The sad occurrence has caused considerable gloom throughout the district, the family being very highly respected, Mr Strickland sen, is gardener at Aldercar Hall.
RMMee Moderator	Strickland replied on: 8/11/2006 7:18:29 PM Claire I've sent you a picture of Gardeners Cottage Robert

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