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tempus275	Lightning strike at flower festival replied on: 1/3/2007 7:45:22 PM Thanks - didn't think to just e-mail you - D'oh
RMMee Moderator	Lightning strike at flower festival replied on: 1/2/2007 11:20:13 PM I shall send you Winifred's address by email. I'm not sure about the photo of the mural - I have deliberately left photos to go in my work until the end of the project, as I find that I can get bogged down by pictures, when, for this work, the text is the most important. (And even more time-consuming!)
tempus275	Lightning strike at flower festival replied on: 1/2/2007 10:32:45 PM Hi RMMee This is an unusual one - do you have any way that I can contact Winifred Waterall? I noticed on the main commitee members that you have put that Winifred has transcribed the St Lawrence - it would be brilliant if I can contact her to sort out some way of borrowing them from her to make copies (think the vicarage computer may have to work overtime)if she would be ok with it, it will mean I can get the data online fairly quickly with the rest of the church website without having to wait for copies from Matlock. Also - I noticed you have put that you are doing reseach into the Grammer School - do you know if there has ever been a decent picture taken of the mural on the wall in the main hall (as was)?
tempus275 This message was updated on 12/31/2006 10:13:37 PM by tempus275	Lightning strike at flower festival replied on: 12/31/2006 10:12:00 PM RMMee - Anything of the interior pre 1869 rebuild would be wonderful... but pretty much expecting that does not exist - I think there is only the one photo of the outside of the medieval one isn't there? Interior pre 1940's would also be interesting as they kept redecorating the chancel - and yet didn't wonder why the plaster kept cracking... D'oh! The outside of the medieval church if you have a copy of it - I presume the society has the copyright on that one? Not sure if you have a copy of the next one. There is meant to be a good line/pencil drawing of the church when there was access to the west gallery through where the West window is.. but no-one seems to have made a copy of it before the original was sent to Matlock archive (grr) If possible photos of any of the Vicars as I can link those to the list of vicars on the site (need to discuss sources with you, some of the dates I have differ from the ones on the society site) Photos of any of the churchwardens will be good, making a list of them as well Any photos of the choir, bell ringers (hand and change), sunday school teachers etc. We have the origonal of the Holbrook wedding choir but no others Installation of the new clock (1870) would be brilliant but I think again will be unlikly. Dedication of the Vestry, think it was built 1902, seem to remember it was built in memory of Victoria. Waiting for permission from Ripley and Heanor for picture of the bells. We're trying to concentrate more on the people side of things than the building as the building didn't really change much within 1908-1978. We hope eventually to make the site very friendly for genealogists, we hope to create as much linking as possible between records of the same person... so any photos of people will be good, especially any where people are identified. Gonna be a long term project...
suegill Researcher	Lightning strike at flower festival replied on: 12/31/2006 9:38:04 PM Peter, She was Mary Stirland who married Richard Cope at Cotmanhay 2 April 1864. Regards, Sue
Peter Chamberlain Researcher This message was updated on 12/31/2006 8:04:25 PM by Peter Chamberlain	Lightning strike at flower festival replied on: 12/31/2006 8:02:25 PM Peter, Do you know if they have a photo of Daniel? Tempus Afraid no photograph of Daniel Stirlands Family until Arthur 1893 Sue Which of Daniels sisters was your Gt Grandmother Peter
RMMee Moderator	Lightning strike at flower festival replied on: 12/31/2006 7:29:47 PM No, we don't have an index - wish we did! It is a long term aim. If there is anything specific you are after, let me know - if we have it, you are welcome to use it. Robert
tempus275	Lightning strike at flower festival replied on: 12/31/2006 7:11:20 PM Peter, Do you know if they have a photo of Daniel? Would we be able to have a scan if they do for the church website - we are thinking of adding the accident to the timeline if they have no objections. RMMee - does the society have an index to what achive photos they have about events either at the church or involving the church that may be useful for the church website that are not in use on the society's website? - if the society have no objectons to their use we would of course add an acknowledgement and link to the society's front page for each one used.
Jennypeg Researcher	Lightning strike at flower festival replied on: 10/4/2006 7:39:26 AM The early reports are from the Ilkeston Library “ Ilkeston Pioneer” from abt 1853. Matlock, Derby Local Studies library, Ripley Library, Eastwood Library and Heanor all have newspapers, Heanor are the only ones to have the “Heanor Observer” 1900 to 1958 on film and no printer! I’ve not come across the “Heanor Standard” yet. Jenny
Peter Chamberlain Researcher	Lightning strike at flower festival replied on: 10/3/2006 5:58:35 PM I am in touch with Daniel Stirlands Gt Gt Grandchildren they are part of my Extended Family. Peter
tempus275	Lightning strike at flower festival replied on: 10/3/2006 5:44:33 PM Thanks for that Jennypeg, the keys in the safe one sounds interesting.. I thought the keys were to the west and south door... going to have to try them now... Which archive did you get the ones pre 1900? Was it Matlock? Also, have you seen a newspaper called "Heanor Standard" in your research? I have indications in the Parish magazines that it started in 1845 but have not been able to find any other proof of its existance... I'm hoping to find some from the period that the Victorian St Lawrence was built.
Jennypeg Researcher	Lightning strike at flower festival replied on: 10/3/2006 7:54:04 AM 15th Jan 1870 R/H, A new clock is about to be obtained for the village, at a cost of £150, the old one, which had been of little or no use for years, on account of its keeping bad time was taken down two or three years ago. When the new clock is put up, the village, with its new church and vicarage, town hall etc, all erected within the last few years, will have compared with its former gloom, quite a cheerful aspect. You will have to look up the full reports I only made a note of the dates. 15th Aug 1874 a new organ was bought for Heanor church at a cost of £450 this is the first organ the church has had.(not the full report) 10th October 1890 R/H, the late Rev. James Hawkes 29 years of age. 1902, photo of church bell ringers. 24th Jan 1902 H/O Dedication of window at the parish church erected by Mrs Gregory in memory of Mr George Brough Gregory. 1902 H/O 12th Dec, The Parish Bells one given by Mr John Holbrook in memory of his son in law Mr Louis Henry Lovett. 8th May 1914 Memorial window unveiled in Heanor church. 23 Sept 1977, key to a Heanor Mystery, mystery of the two keys in the church safe. 1980 21 Nov, Diocese sanction plans for church restoration. 1980 7th Mar blow to church plan, church within a church 9th Jan 1981 new church plans are unveiled. 29th Oct 1982 A new era for Heanor Church, new look church will go public Nov 27th/28th. 26th Nov 1982 County to buy Heanor Church Hall 31 Dec 1982 Derbyshire County Council to buy Heanor Parish Church Hall for £30,000 was challenged at a meeting. 1997 11th Dec R/H, repairing Heanor Church Clock, it was put up in 1870. Jenny
tempus275	Lightning strike at flower festival replied on: 10/2/2006 7:09:10 PM Very impressive Jennypeg. Do you have any other articles relating to the church that you have uncovered in your research? I'm doing research into the Parish church and searching though the local papers is something I haven't had the chance to do yet.
Jennypeg Researcher	Lightning strike at flower festival replied on: 10/2/2006 4:43:49 PM 15th August 1890 The Ripley News THUNDERSTORM AT HEANOR TWO PERSONS KILLED AND THREE INJURED On Monday, about two o’clock, a dreadful thunderstorm broke over Heanor. Five persons were standing under a tree on the ground where the Heanor Floral and Horticultural Society was holding its annual show and all were struck down with the lightning. Daniel Stirland (52), and Joseph Henry Woodhouse (10), both of Heanor, were killed. Elijah Inger (17), Foster Tarlton (30), and Joseph Tarlton (11), son of the above, were all seriously injured. Hundreds ran to the spot, and rendered aid to the injured. They were carried into tents, and D. T. Wilson and Dr. W. H. Turton sent for, but in the cases of Daniel Stirland, about 50 years of age, residing at Park Street, Heanor, and Joseph Woodhouse, a boy, ten years of age, Nook-end, Heanor life was extinct. The other three persons were seriously injured. Their names are Mr. Foster Tarlton, Loscoe insurance collector, who was unconscious, but hopes are entertained of his recovery; his son Joseph Tarlton, 11 years of age, who received shocking injuries to his feet; as did also Elijah Inger, 17 years, son of William Inger, Wood-end, Heanor. The tree under which the unfortunate men were when the fatality happened was shattered from top to bottom. Hundreds visited the spot and carried off charred pieces as a memento of the sad occurrence. About the same time an elderly man was killed at Mansfield. On Tuesday a fund was raised for the benefit of the widowed mother of the boy Woodhouse. Money was raised by placing a collection box near the tree, which was struck, thousands of persons having come from all parts to see the place. The amount realised was £10 2s. 8d. On Tuesday afternoon Mr. W. Harvey Whiston, County Coroner, held an inquiry at the Lord Nelson Inn, Heanor, touching the deaths of Daniel Stirland, 52, miner, and Joseph Henry Woodhouse, 10 who were killed on the Heanor Flower Show ground during a violent thunderstorm. Henry Stirland, of Hill Top, identified the body of Daniel Stirland as that of his father, and Eliza Woodhouse, widow of William Woodhouse and mother of the deceased boy, that of her son. Joseph Tarlton aged 11, who was slightly injured at the same time as the deceased were killed, said that he was the son of Mr Foster Tarlton, who was also badly injured by the lightning, and was rather worse that afternoon, having suffered from severe pains in the chest since the accident. Witness went with his father to the flower show ground about two o’clock the previous afternoon. On arriving on the ground it commenced to rain heavily. Along with the two deceased and Inger, the other young man who was injured, they went under a tree to shelter. The lightning was very vivid. Witness stood between Stirland and Woodhouse. The lightning flashed close to them, being followed by a loud crack of thunder. They were all immediately stricken down on their backs. He was carried by some man across to a tent, where he was rubbed, and subsequently came round. He was burnt on he arm and hand, and temporarily paralysed in the legs and feet. Inspector Mitchell stated that he was on duty on the show ground when the rain came down in torrents, accompanied by thunder and vivid flashes of lightning. There was a rush made to the trees. Witness himself started with the intention of joining the five persons under the fatal tree but turned back and went to a van near by. He saw the flash of lightning. It was forked. He went to the assistance of the persons struck, all of whom appeared as dead. Woodhouse was quite dead, but Stirland lived about 3 minutes after. The jury returned a verdict that “Deceased died by visitation of God, being killed by lightning” 22nd August 1890 The Ripley News THE RESENT THUNDERSTORM The terrific storm of the 11th inst, which resulted in the death of a man and boy at Heanor, created considerable alarm to all the parishioners, and on Sunday numbers were afraid the storm was going to be repeated, for about ten or eleven o’clock a similar, if not more violent storm burst over the town, the lightning being very vivid, and peals of thunder very violent, fortunately after a lapse of an hour, it subdued, and the anxiety removed. During Sunday hundreds visited the spot on the show grounds where the sad fatality occurred. A special sermon was preached at the Parish Church by the Rev. C. E. L. Corfield, M.A., Rector, to a large audience. He took for his subject God’s voice in the lightning, basing his remarks on Rev., 4th chap., 5th verse. The preacher, in an earnest and thrilling discourse, referred to the sad occurrence, urging his hearers to take it as a warning from God, who speaks in the lightning and thunder. Jenny
Jennypeg Researcher	Lightning strike at flower festival replied on: 10/2/2006 3:23:01 PM 15th Aug 1890 The Ripley News The Wake Festival The wake commenced at Heanor on Sunday, when the bells of the Church rang at an early hour and a flag floated from the tower. Several services were held during the day, at which the Rector (Rev. C. E. L. Corfield, M.A.) officiated. The open air service, which are a feature of the festival, were badly attended owing to the heavy rain, but in the evening there was a large congregation at the parish church. The Rector in his sermon referred to the origin of the feast, which he said had probably been kept for nearly a thousand years, there being a church at Heanor at the time of the Doomsday Survey, 800 years ago. The feast was kept to celebrate the opening of the first Christian church in Heanor. Mr Corfield also referred to the history of St Lawrence, to whom the church is dedicated. St Lawrence, who lived about 260 A.D., was martyred during the persecution of Christians by the Emperor Valerian. Soldiers broke into the church and demanded from St Lawrence the treasures. St Lawrence pointed to the sick and poor who had taken shelter in the sacred edifice, and said “these are the treasures of the church, the poor whom Christ loves” Enraged by this reply the soldiers seized him and burned him to death on iron bars over a slow fire. more to follow Sue. Jenny

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