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pacaine






A Grave Question
replied on: 6/5/2008 7:07:06 PM

Thanks Kevin but when I run my cursor over the jpeg P490019 which you sent me, no information appears. I suppose it's a function of which program is used to open the file.
Anyway I now know it is a modern photo, which was the point of my query. To my mind it looks in remarkably good nick for it's age.

P
Kevin_Turton






A Grave Question
replied on: 5/25/2008 11:16:56 PM

Pacaine

Just seen this thread - the photo I sent was taken 19/04/2006.

I can state yhis with certainty as when I hover my cursor over the jpg file, it tells me when, and which camera took the picture, so unless this data was lost in the transmission by e-mail, you should have been able to see from the file itself.

Kev Turton
pacaine






A Grave Question
replied on: 5/2/2008 10:16:36 AM

Many thanks to Jenny and Robert for the photos.
One of them is almost identical to the one I have, although I don't know when it was taken.
We now know what it looks like today. I think my next step would be to show the picture to a stonemason,if I can find one locally,and ask his opinion on the age and weathering of the stone. If it was erected 119 years ago the air must be remarkably pure in Heanor:-)

P
RMMee
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This message was updated on 5/1/2008 6:03:31 PM by RMMee

A Grave Question
replied on: 5/1/2008 6:02:41 PM

Pacaine

Jenny has sent me a couple of photos of the gravestone, to pass on to you, but I don't have your email address (I don't think).

If you would like them, please go to the ContactUs page of the Society's main web site, (http://www.heanorhistory.org.uk/contact_us.htm) and send me the details. (I don't like email addresses being put onto this site.)

Regards

Robert
pacaine






A Grave Question
replied on: 4/30/2008 5:12:13 PM

Yes indeed Jennypeg - that's the one.
I'm rather surprised to hear that it's limestone. The council official said his men described it as white, whereas the 'photo I have looks like a grey granite.

Thanks again

P
Jennypeg
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A Grave Question
replied on: 4/30/2008 11:55:25 AM

Memorial Inscriptions for Marlpool

G68
In loving Memory of Sarah Gillott of West Hill who died November 1st 1889 aged 70 years "At rest"
(limestone headstone)
is this the one?
Jenny
pacaine






A Grave Question
replied on: 4/30/2008 9:49:48 AM

Hi Jennypeg

Many thanks and Yes to the questions. The details are as follows:-

25797 GILLOTT SARAH GRAVE DERBYSHIRE HEANOR
1889 04-Nov 70 1819 WIFE OF ABRAHAM GILLOTT.
DIED AT TAGG HILL, HEANOR. GRAVE NO. 652.

I was told the cemetery is Marlpool. I have no idea of the stonemason or funeral company. I did put these to the Amber Valley official but he said they will all be long gone now.

Thanks P
Jennypeg
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A Grave Question
replied on: 4/30/2008 8:18:05 AM

Hi pacaine,
If he was well liked or a member of a Church etc, they may have had a collection, also maybe there’s a newspaper report, if we could have some dates and names we could try and find out for you.
Would you like a new photo taking?
What is the name of the person/s buried?
What is the name of the stonemason?
What is the name of the funeral company?
also looking at the graves around it may help.
Jenny
pacaine






A Grave Question
replied on: 4/29/2008 6:34:09 PM

I've just had a 'phone call from a very helpful man at Amber Valley Council, in response to my emailed enquiry.
Apparently he sent a couple of men over to Heanor to view the actual gravestone. They reported that it seemed quite old and was "leaning over" somewhat. It could be that my photo made it look more recent than it really is, but I still can't imagine the poor mining family having the wherewithal to buy it at that time.
He made another interesting observation that whoever bought the stone would also have to have purchased the grave. It seems that no records exist which would help answer my query.

Back to the drawing board:-)

P
suzard
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This message was updated on 4/27/2008 11:42:05 PM by suzard

A Grave Question
replied on: 4/27/2008 11:41:08 PM

Unforunately the registers are no longer at marlpool cemetery - -so you need to ring the council -but they are very helpful
pacaine






A Grave Question
replied on: 4/27/2008 1:35:09 PM

Many thanks for that offer of help Barbara.

I have filled in a query form on the website of Amber Valley Council and I'll post a message on here outlining their reply when it comes.

Thanks P
Barbara Grayson






This message was updated on 4/27/2008 8:32:42 AM by Barbara Grayson

A Grave Question
replied on: 4/27/2008 8:30:13 AM

I agree with Suzard - good idea to contact Amber Valley as I've found them to be really helpful.

Sometimes details of headstones are in Registers - if you/or you know of someone who could visit Marlpool (need to make an appointment)the actual Registers can be checked (well they could be a couple of years ago!).

(Work prevents me from helping until later in year but if no luck I could try end of July Aug.)

Barbara G
pacaine






A Grave Question
replied on: 4/26/2008 6:55:30 PM

Many thanks Suzard, I shall do as you suggest.

P
suzard
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This message was updated on 4/26/2008 11:39:27 PM by suzard

A Grave Question
replied on: 4/26/2008 12:45:10 AM

I don't think a record would be kept of when the headstone was erected -that would only exist n family records (e.g. bill from stone masons)How many are buried in the grave?-sometimes a headstone is not erected until the family can afford it.

Some of my family are buried in Aldercar cemetery - headstones were removed from there and placed around the walls of the church opposite, so the cemetery is virtually empty of headstones -but there in the middle (of what now looks like a field) is a headstone (and surround) which is in such good condition it looks like it was put there yesterday - it was actually put there in 1951 when the son died - the others in the grave died 1914 and 1938 -and no stone was erected until 1951

About 10 years ago a friend of mine was left quite a substantial amount of money by a great uncle who no one knew of his whereabouts - he died in california, and my friend used some of the inheritance to erect headstones on unmarked graves for grandparents and great grandparents.

Maybe something like this happened in your family

On the other hand some of the really old headstones -especially the slate ones - stay in pristine condition with little or no maintenance.

You could always contact Amber Valley Council -cemeteries dept and ask if they have any record - they are very helpful - (if you want to find an unmarked grave and tell them when you are going they will put a marker where the grave is situated)
pacaine






A Grave Question
replied on: 4/25/2008 6:05:55 PM

A while ago Kevin Turton kindly sent me a picture of the gravestone of my G2grandmother
in Heanor Marlpool cemetery.
The colour photograph looks to have been taken in (fairly) recent times, and the stone itself seems newish.
As she died in 1889 and came from a poor family I very much doubt that her relatives at that time would have been able to afford such a memorial.
My question is whether or not it is usual for gravestones to be added at a much later date, and if so are records likely to exist of such donations.
I shall be grateful for any advice/pointers to further research.

Thanks P
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