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loomis	round house replied on: 2/27/2006 7:47:36 PM The square building was Harry Eaton's electrical workshop. He used to charge up the accumalators which powered the radios during and just after the war. He lived in the adjacent house which is set back a little way from the road.
paulr	round house replied on: 2/27/2006 3:54:31 PM Robert In your picture of the round house I remember the square building as a workshop and at the extent of the wall was a path down to a row of cottages where the new bungalows are now, is it Stafford Close?.My Auntie,Uncle & cousin lived in the first one there name was Kyte. PaulR
Patrisia	round house replied on: 2/14/2006 12:50:45 PM Apologies if you had already been there but I have been tinkering with the site and missed out the section from 'Footsteps through Smalley'. It is now included and seems to answer the earlier query about the toll bar. Patrisia
Patrisia	round house replied on: 2/14/2006 12:07:01 PM Thanks Jenny. I have uploaded the page to the website http://www.patrisiacarrington.dsl.pipex.com/roundhouse.html I have a map and and picture to add but I am waiting for the go ahead from Robert Turton before they are put on. Bob, I would also like to use the pic from Don; do you think that would be OK? Patrisia
Jennypeg Researcher	round house replied on: 2/13/2006 8:12:41 PM Hi Patrisa, the source was The Ripley & Heanor News 3rd Oct 1952, Smalley's round house, photo by S. J. Wood Ripley (my copy of the photo is just a black blob!)I think the council now have Mr Woods Photo's? Jenny
Patrisia	round house replied on: 2/13/2006 7:53:36 PM Hi Jenny, I am just writing out a piece for the website, is it OK if I use your point about coal weighing? I don't suppose you have a source for that, do you? Any other contributions would be extremely welcome, from anywhere!
Azzabuv This message was updated on 9/13/2005 12:14:33 PM by Azzabuv	round house replied on: 9/13/2005 12:08:52 PM They're two different premises as far as i can ascertain, Robert. They are BOTH in the 1891 Census, so appear to be different buildings. I just dug a bit deeper in my researching. (and it hurts, but worth it at times). Azzabuv.
RMMee Moderator This message was updated on 9/13/2005 2:04:58 AM by RMMee	round house replied on: 9/13/2005 2:01:13 AM Azza I know its a while ago now, but did the two posts in February and June refer to different premises?
Jennypeg Researcher	round house replied on: 8/26/2005 1:49:18 PM Hi, Smalley's round house was demolished in 1952, its thought to have been used has a place for weighing coal that passed through from Codnor to Derby 200 years ago, its been used has a private residence and its last tenants were Mr.and Mrs.R.Jackson and they moved out 2 years ago. (1950). Jenny
RMMee Moderator	round house replied on: 6/15/2005 5:26:42 AM It is long out of copyright, so you ought to be okay.
Patrisia	round house replied on: 6/14/2005 3:14:41 PM I found the paper on Derby.gov, it seems the old newspapers are on fiche there. So I would think that as long as I attribute the transcription to the Ilkeston Pioneer, it should be OK. Any one have any opinions/views on that?
Jennypeg Researcher	round house replied on: 6/14/2005 11:52:45 AM Hi, The report was in the paper "The Ilkeston Pioneer" I only copied it, I don't know if there would be a problem? Jenny
Jennypeg Researcher	round house replied on: 6/13/2005 3:15:01 PM this is all I've found on the lock up and round house 1854 SMALLEY LOCKUP THE LOCK-UP SMALLEY Ilkeston Pioneer A respected correspondent favoured us in our last issue with a paragraph describing the clean and orderly state of the Smalley LOCK- UP. If such things must be, it is gratifying to learn that they are well conducted. But we own we much rather learn that the rural hamlet of Smalley, and the locality of which it is the magisterial centre, had no need for the erection of a miniature house of correction, than to learn that any such odious looking edifice obtruded its unsightly architecture among the pleasant farmsteads and cosy cottages of Smalley. If Smalley itself with the advantages of a church, and chapels, a resident minister, and a resident and respected magistrate, require the erection of a prison in this the 19th century, it would be a sad libel, we think, on the present generation – but a very high compliment to “the rude forefathers of the hamlet” who dispensed with a ROUND - HOUSE, when they had none of the salutary checks on evil doing which modern Smalley happily enjoys. But we well know Smalley itself requires no such fortress. It merely obtains the questionable honour from the fact of its being the place for holding the Petty Sessions. For our part we utterly abominate the sight of these petty prison-houses obtruding as they do their very significant faces on the village green. We have the same aversion the stocks. We lately attended a parish meeting, held in order to decide on the re-erection of a worn out pair of these now exploded nuisances. The sapient parish officers were about to incur a charge of some four or five pounds, when we quietly asked whether the stocks were intended for use or ornament? If for use, we should like some evidence of the times they had been used within the last half-century. If for ornament, we humbly submitted that an uglier sight, and one more loudly proclaiming our own disorderlies, than a pair of stocks could not well be imagined. We carried the day. We saved four pounds – and everybody acknowledges how the approach to the church steps is improved by the removal of “the wooden stockings” We always thought the last English village in which a round house would be erected, or a pair of stocks tolerated, would be –otham – as we suppose the last persons that wore the “stockings” were Hudibras and Muddiman. We have another objection to a “Lock up – a human being should not be confined in an building in which there is not a human being to take care of him. The Smalley “cell” may be a very clean, snug, little hole, but it is not a place where a man should be immured on a cold winter night, or indeed on any night. If the person charged with any offences has been before the magistrate, the county gaol in his proper lodging house. If untried, let him be in the constable’s safe custody by an English fireside. The Habeas Corpus Act is often violated in these round houses. It is astonishing that rural places should plume themselves on the erection of such relics of a barbarous age, - and say, “Lo, we are big folks now – we’ve got a prison!” Had Mapperley had a round – house, we are afraid the hapless plunderer of the Mapperley pale would have had, at least, one bad night’s lodging, while all the little urchins and idlers of the place would have serenaded her! If there was any truth in the opinion that these lock-ups were really “a terror to evil doers” we should think their erection “a praise to them that do well” and these remarks uncalled for. Experience shows that they are not. Indeed we should as soon think of reviving the ducking stool, as the stocks, or the lock up, in this latter half of the 19th century. We make these observations in no captious spirit, but from an earnest desire for an onward instead of retrograde movement in our social state, and from a conviction that there are now influences at work which will, we trust, not only prevent the necessity of the “county rate” being expanded in the erection of little bastilles, but also in the building and enlargement of monster county prisons. Jenny
Azzabuv This message was updated on 6/13/2005 1:55:22 PM by Azzabuv	round house replied on: 6/13/2005 1:54:38 PM Round House occupants, 1891 Census. Woodhouse. George. Head, aged 23, coal miner. Bn. - Horsley, Derbys. Woodhouse. Mary E. Wife, aged 22. Bn. - Belper, Derbys. Azzabuv.
Azzabuv	round house replied on: 2/23/2005 3:52:43 PM Is this the Round House as listed in the 1891 Smalley Census as - 'Old Toll Bar'. I can't find any mention of the name 'Round House'. Walker, Charlie. Head - Widower, aged 71/73? - Bn. Horsley, Derbys. His employment name is unreadable. Azzabuv.

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