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| Rune__ "The Wheelwright" Quote | Reply | | Kargash posted on: 12/27/2003 8:02:54 PM If anyone has read of this city in the books, I'd appreciate it if you could hint or provide information to its origin in the books or its location. Rune |
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replied on: 12/29/2003 7:30:00 PM Mystery Locations: There are some location place names given but almost no information given about those locations. Many of these locations are mentioned in passages concerning the places where the famous mercenary captain, Dietrich of Tarnburg, won victories. These locations may be cities, towns or simply geographic regions. They include the following: Cardonicus; Edgington; Gordon Heights; Kargash; Keibel Hill; Piedmont; Plains of Sanchez; Rovere; and Teveh Pass. I am still looking in the books of Magicans and two others where He has fought, to seek a passage on Kargash, thoughinfo very slim on such. Will continue. Ness |
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replied on: 12/29/2003 8:33:45 PM Some more information I came upon regarding Kargash. Located on the western coast of Gor between Turia and the Anango Island. The village surrounded by a high wooden wall, highly trained guards are stationed to protect this small but growing Home. Guards on foot patrol the walls with their sleens. http://www.njad-ww.com/gormap.html shows Kargash placed on map Another strange place is Kargash. Here, on the abrupt riverbank, stands a sandstone column with a height of nearly 70 meters and a basement diameter of 20 meters. The column narrows towards its top on which lays a square granite plate, each side of which is some 10 meters. Nobody knows the origin of this wonder of nature. Probably it has been formed by the wind polishing fragile sandstone for many centuries. This place is also considered sacred and its defilement is severely punished. A couple of years ago two soldiers from a nearby border guard checkpoint and shot at the column, trying to bring it down. In a week both soldiers died. The local doctor made a diagnosis: poisoning. But aksakals said they punished by Allah. http://www.n2.net/prey/bigfoot/articles/mysteries.htm http://www.worldofgor.com/ref/ref_inland.asp From Luthers scrolls Dietrich of the city of Tarnburg is a legendary mercenary captain, probably the most famous captain on Gor. He is one of the most feared and skilled commanders on Gor, mercenary or otherwise. His victories are very well known. He has won battles on the fields of Piedmont and Cardonicus. He led the Forty Days' March relieving the siege of Talmont. He crossed the Issus River in 10122 C.A. in the night evacuation of Keibel Hill. He has been the victor in the battles of Rovere, Kargash, Edgington, Teveh Pass, Gordon Heights, and the Plains of Sanchez. His standard is a silver tarn and his force numbers about five thousand men, far larger than most such armies. His contracts are very expensive and his is choosy in which battles he will fight. His campaigns are studied in war schools throughout Gor. He is an innovative military leader and has created many new tactics and strategies for war on Gor. If I find more will place. Ness |
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replied on: 12/30/2003 12:25:20 PM So is Dietrich of Tarnburg, of the high city of Tarnburg,some two hundred pasangs to the north and west of Hochburg,both substantially mountain fortresses, both in the more southern and civilized ranges of the Voltai, was well-known to the warriors of Gor. His name was almost a legend.It was he who had won the day on the fields of both Piedmont and Cardonicus, who had led the Forty Days’ March, relieving the siege of Talmont, who had effected the crossing of the Issus in 10,122 C.A., in the night evacuation of Keibel Hill, when I had been in Torvaldsland, and who had been the victor in the battles of Rovere, Kargash, Edgington, Teveh Pass, Gordon Heights, and the Plains of Sanchez. [http://www.geocities.com/Land_of_Gor/] Town located on the western coast of Gor between Turia and the Anango Island. [http://www.gor-world-of.org/Kargash.html] KARGASH -- A city mentioned in a brief comment on the exploits of Dietrich of Tarnburg. Its exact location is not specified. [http://www.gor.madamspooky.com/planet/inland.html] Mystery Locations: There are some location place names given but almost no information given about those locations. Many of these locations are mentioned in passages concerning the places where the famous mercenary captain, Dietrich of Tarnburg, won victories. These locations may be cities, towns or simply geographic regions. They include the following: Cardonicus; Edgington; Gordon Heights; Kargash; Keibel Hill; Piedmont; Plains of Sanchez; Rovere; and Teveh Pass. [http://members.aol.com/UbarLuther/Scroll25.html] So is Dietrich of Tarnburg, of the high city of Tarnburg, some two hundred pasangs to the north and west of Hochburg, both substantially mountain fortresses, both in the more southern and civilized ranges of the Voltai, was well-known to the warriors of Gor. His name was almost a legend. It was he who had won the day on the fields of both Piedmont and Cardonicus, who had led the Forty Days March, relieving the siege of Talmont, who had effected the crossing of the Issus in 10,122 C.A., in the night evacuation of Keibel Hill, when I had been in Torvaldsland, and who had been the victor in the battles of Rovere, Kargash, Edgington, Teveh Pass, Gordon Heights, and the Plains of Sanchez. His campaigns were studied in all the war schools of the high cities. I knew him from scrolls I had studied years ago in Ko-ro-ba, and from volumes in my library in Port Kar, such as the commentaries of Minicius and the anonymous analyses of "The Diaries", sometimes attributed to the military historian, Carl Commenius, of Argentum, rumored to have once been a mercenary himself. It was Dietrich of Tarnburg who had first introduced the "harrow" to positional warfare on Gor, that formation named for the large, rake-like agricultural instrument, used for such tasks as the further leveling of ground after plowing and, sometimes, on the great farms, for the covering of seed, In this formation spikes of archers, protected by iron-shod stakes and sleen pits, project beyond the forward lines of the heavily armed warriors and their reserves. This formation, if approached head-on by tharlarion ground cavalry, is extremely effective. It constitutes, in effect, a set of corridors of death through which the cavalry must ride, in which it is commonly decimated before it can reach the main lines of the defenders. When the cavalry is disorganized, shattered and torn by missile fire, and turns about to retreat, the defenders, fresh and eager, initiate their own attack. He was also the initiator of the oblique advance in Gorean field warfare, whereby large numbers of men may be concentrated at crucial points while the balance of the enemy remains unengaged. This formation makes it possible for a given army, choosing to attack only limited portions of the enemy, portions smaller than itself, to engage an army which, all told, may be three times its size, and, not unoften, to turn the flank of this much larger body, producing its confusion and rout, Too, if the attack fails, the advanced force may fall back, knowing that the balance of their army, indeed, its bulk, rested and fresh, not yet engaged, is fully prepared to cover their retreat. Most impressive to me, perhaps, was Dietrich of Tarnburg's coordination of air and ground forces, and his transposition of certain techniques and weapons of siege warfare to the field. The common military response to aerial attack from tarnsmen is the "shield roof" or "shield shed", a formation the same as, or quite similar to, a formation once known on Earth as the testudo, or "tortoise". In this formation shields are held in such a way that they constitute a wall for the outer ranks and a roof for the inner ranks. This is primarily a defensive formation but it may also be used for advancing under fire. The common Gorean defense against tharlarion attack, if it must be met on the open ground, is the stationary, defensive square, defended by braced spears. At Rovere and Kargash Dietrich coordinated his air and ground cavalry in such a way as to force his opponents into sturdy but relatively inflexible defensive squares. He then advanced his archers in long, enveloping lines, in this way they could muster a much broader front for low-level, point-blank firepower than could the narrower concentrated squares. He then utilized, for the first time in Gorean field warfare, first at Rovere, and later at Kargash, mobile siege equipment, catapults mounted on wheeled platforms, which could fire over the heads of the draft animals. From these engines, hitherto employed only in siege warfare, now became a startling and devastating new weapon, in effect, a field artillery, tubs of burning pitch and flaming naphtha, and siege javelins, and giant boulders, fell in shattering torrents upon the immobilized squares. The shield shed was broken. The missiles of archers rained upon the confused, hapless defenders. Even mobile siege towers, pushed from within by straining tharlarion, pressing their weight against prepared harnesses, trundled toward them, their bulwarks swarming with archers and javelin men. The squares were broken. Then again the ponderous, earthshaking, bellowing, grunting, trampling, tharlarion ground cavalry charged, this time breaking through the walls like dried straw, followed by waves of screaming, heavily armed spearmen. The ranks of the enemy then irremediably broke. The air howled with panic. Rout was upon them. Spears and shields were cast away that men might flee the more rapidly. There was little left to be done. It would be the cavalries which would attend to the fugitives. -- p31-33, Mercenaries of Gor [http://goreaninfo.tripod.com/mercs/quotes01.html] Rune this is some of the info I have on Kargash and the "location" of it . Seems tho mentioned in Mercenaries is no exact location ever really given . Tho is mention of areas traveled to Kargash. I do hope this helps You in some small way . I wish You well. LG Physician Administrator of Kargash |
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replied on: 12/30/2003 5:26:08 PM I thank you both, Ness and Gwynth for your support in this. Guess I need to go check mercenaries of GOR again. I guess I do not have to explain why I am interested in this information. I was always under the impression that the vastness of the Land of the Wagon Peoples enxtends (and disappears) into the reaches of southern Gor only known by the Wagon Peoples themselves. To see maps with Kargash on them, being south of Turia and well within the claims of "our" land left me a bit puzzled. If anyone else has information please do not hesitate to let me know. |
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